Gerry Adams: “There is a clear need for more innovative and forward-looking politics…”

By which, the passive-aggressive Sinn Féin president actually means, the SDLP must join Sinn Féin in a sectarian electoral pact in “the next Westminster and Assembly elections”, and the year after that, and the year after that… because… themmuns!

To paraphrase, if Sinn Féin can get away with treating all future Northern Ireland elections as a glorified pissing contest pseudo-referendum on ‘Irish Unity’, then we won’t be caught out distracted by actual politics in the north and we can focus all of our efforts and resources entirely on the south.  [Partitionist! – Ed]  Indeed.

Or, to put it another way, here’s a knife, cut your own throat, because if we get caught with a bloody knife…  well, you know what they’ll say…

[What part of ‘No’ doesn’t he understand? – Ed]  Indeed, again.

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  • Croiteir

    And what you really mean is that voting for parties that are nationalist is sectarian

  • chrisjones2

    Yes…by defintion …as is voting for parties that are unionist

  • Croiteir

    That is simply untrue and is typical of the lazy analysis of many

  • sk

    They don’t say what you wanted them to say in the teeth of an election? Ah, diddums.

  • Sergiogiorgio

    “Innovative” and “forward looking” – I use the same BS when selling to clients…next thing you know it will be “strategic engagement”; “pushing the envelope”; “blue sky thinking”. Gerry’s boys will be up the Falls happily parting caps from knees working off a ” knowledge base” delivering their “core competencies”….

    Why doesn’t Gerry walk away quickly whilst fornicating and take Peter with him.

    A pox on all their houses.

  • Neil

    Indeed.

    🙂

  • Glenn Clare

    Gerry and the shinners/provos could be progressive, innovative and forward-looking and give up the peodphiles in their ranks.

    http://audioboom.com/boos/2616853-the-ira-did-shoot-people-kneecap-them-i-believe-the-people-who-volunteered-to-the-ira-were-decent-people

  • Concubhar O Liathain

    I don’t know about a ‘nationalist pact’ but there does need to be a pact between pro Agreement to ensure the maximum possible return for the most pro agreement candidates/parties to the maximum exclusion of anti agreement candidates/parties. You either fight for the Agreement – and I mean politically – or it dies a death by a thousand quotes (such as Gregory Campbell’s latest despicable offerings) and cuts.

  • Robin Keogh

    You give us a link there to a BT article and I cant for the life of me figure out what is has to do with electoral pacts but sure what matter when it comes to Adams; forget relevence and hope that the reader can be blinded by the seemingly unjust acts of one event in the hope that it will colour their view negatively on the main issue. God save us from unaccountable hooligan journalism. Meredith is in quite a state there it seems because of Adams little anecdote, apparently the entire media world is horrified to the point paralysis. Nobody else of course gives a toss because anybody with an undisturbed brain understood his comment as analogous and harmless. Pity INM didnt take him up on his offer to write a piece for the organisation to explain. Mind you, why on earth would they print anything from Adams, sure in the free world the only politicians allowed to have an article in one of INM’s productions is pretty much everyone except a shinner, a shinner supporter, or an ex shinner who is now a shinner hater. Thank God for the letters section or we would have no balance at all……oops, sorry wrong there, pro shinner letters not allowed either.

    In terms of your main piece regarding the sectarian pact you seem to be shocked by; I cant comprehend why any intelligent human could fail to see the importance of electoral pacts when faced with just that……electoral pacts. It makes perfect sense for nationalist parties to pull together in the face of Unionist Unity, particularly when that Unity has the potential to hold the balance of power within a Tory led London government. Moreover, the political entity that is the north was created on the basis of naked sectarianism, governed for decades by sectarians and still has sectarian representatives that will sell their soul in order to stop their nationalist neighbours enjoy something as simple as protection for the ancient language of this island.

    Baker seems to be forgetting that actual politics includes the constitutional question as Unionism never tires of telling us. Sinn Fein as an all-Ireland party need to deal with jurisdictional realities rather than cheep jibes on partition. The fact that they are doing it very effectively is obviously boiling his blood. Himself and Meredith should get a room.

  • Glenn Clare

    More clear innovative and forward-looking thinking, within the mind of Gerry Adams and the shinner/provos, and for the clear thinking republican parents out there.

    http://audioboom.com/boos/2618164-did-gerry-adams-breach-sinn-fein-guidelines-on-reporting-child-abuse?playlist_direction=forward

  • Robin Keogh

    *YAWN*

  • Robin Keogh

    The paedo cover up etc. etc. has clearly failed along with the other accusatory stunts…..need to try harder.

  • Glenn Clare

    It’s not a “YAWN” for the victims of shinner/provo child abuse. Good to see the current thinking in republicans is not “innovative and forward-thinking”!!!

  • Robin Keogh

    Chris isen’t big on analysis

  • babyface finlayson

    What would be analagous to holding journalists at gunpoint and destroying their presses?

  • Glenn Clare

    The shinners/provos are really cherishing all the children of Ireland, and not in a good way.

  • Morpheus

    When it comes to pacts, what should be worrying for political unionism is that in the medium to long-term it’s a race to the bottom that they simply can’t win. Is there a single politician who is thinking about the union 20, 30 or 50 years from now?

  • Gopher

    It makes perfect sense, The SDLP’s name is whiter than SF’s and the party can wheel out the “Look we are not that bad, the saintly SDLP have a pact with us”. You can even put fighting “Anti agreement unionism” trousers on it to disguise the true nature which essentially yet another selfish attempt at deflection from Gerry Adams. Funny a couple of weeks ago the SDLP were the worst in the world now it seems Gerry wants to wear them as a flak jacket.

  • Robin Keogh

    The analogy is that the very people who did that are regarded as national heroes while the IRA are seen by many as quite the opposite.

  • Robin Keogh

    ….and such is the way of politics. Its not unusual to see the DUP and UUP tearing strips off each other before swapping flak jackets

  • babyface finlayson

    But that is not the comparison he is making. He is talking about how Collins dealt with the situation so an analogy would require some kind of strong reaction by Adams or his supporters towards the current lot of troublesome journalists.
    If he just means the use of harsh language then it is a very bad analogy.
    For someone once closely associated with a violent group to come out with this sort of guff is at worst somewhat menacing, at best another clumsy misstep by Adams.

  • Gopher

    Nope not unsual, but Peter’s indiscretion’s are more
    human than Gerry’s so dont taint. So neither unionist parties are required to be a flak jacket for the other unless of course the existence of dinosaurs becomes an election issue on the doorsteps and then the UUP would have to suit up..

  • tmitch57

    Get a dictionary and look up the meaning of the term sectarian. Both nationalist and unionist parties fit squarely within it as they by design only cater to a section of the electorate.

  • Nevin

    “There is a clear need for more innovative and forward-looking politics…” .. Gerry

    There is such a need but the unresolved constitutional question stymies change and the major parties are at either end of the tug-of-war rope. Even if the smaller and weaker parties try to stand alone the electorate will opt for the stronger ones.

    SF can expect support from other Nationalist parties in anti-Union or anti-Unionist matters in Northern Ireland but its dog-eat-dog in Ireland politics amongst the Nationalist parties – and the other parties do relish sinking their teeth into SF’s soft nether regions.

    Up on the north coast, the common enemy, when it comes to the protection of the Dalriada Hospital in Ballycastle, is the Northern Health and Social Care Trust (NHSCT). The antipathy has been strong enough to allow the TUV, SF, SDLP, DUP and UUP to share the same platform – even to put a DUP minister in the firing line. NHSCT has been caught out changing its standing orders to avoid meeting the public until after a dose of nasty medicine has been delivered and, also, curbing the flow of information that would be beneficial for the understanding of its own Board members, as well as concerned citizens.

    SF representatives are at least as active as those of any other party in this campaign and to suggest that they are restricting their resources to Ireland is just silly; they have the capacity to operate enthusiastically in both jurisdictions.

    NHSCT has run for cover and the Minister has struggled to offer it protection. His final decision may well be delivered on Tuesday, if not before.

    The party togetherness that we’ve seen will, of course, disappear in the heat of electoral campaigning. Both settings represent ‘actual politics’.

  • chrisjones2

    It was your analysis not mine

  • chrisjones2

    I bow before your towering intellect

  • chrisjones2

    They even use the same dated bloodline rhetoric that every fascist in the last 100 years has used – ein volk and all that racial stereotyping is so 1930s guys

  • “You give us a link there to a BT article and I cant for the life of me figure out what is has to do with electoral pacts…”

    Nobody said it did. It’s a link to an example of the passive-aggressive nature of the Sinn Fein president. You disagree. That’s fine.

    “In terms of your main piece regarding the sectarian pact you seem to be shocked by…”

    I’m not shocked by it, per se. Sinn Féin have put out several statements on the issue over the past few weeks. But they have also had their response – No thanks.

    And Baker isn’t forgetting anything.

    “Sinn Fein as an all-Ireland party need to deal with jurisdictional realities rather than cheep jibes on partition.”

    Indeed. And they’d rather deal with one jurisdictional reality at a time…

  • Reader

    Robin Keogh: It makes perfect sense for nationalist parties to pull together in the face of Unionist Unity, particularly when that Unity has the potential to hold the balance of power within a Tory led London government.
    There’s no point in voting for SF if that’s the justification – they are abstentionists. SF should stand aside for the SDLP in every seat, ifby your logic. (There may be a case for SF and SDLP to stand aside in favour of Alliance east of the Bann.)
    That won’t happen though. It’s a sectarian(tribal) response to a sectarian(tribal) stimulus.
    Of course, SF have wanted to abandon abstentionism for a long time now, and this could be their chance.

  • Morpheus

    SF have wanted to abandon abstentionism for a long time now, and this could be their chance.

    Really? How do you know this?

  • NMS

    Croitéir – in theory yes, but in practice NO. As an example, the DUP & Unionists will say they are open to all, but yet make the support of sectarian marching a key part of their electioneering.

  • Reader

    Because it’s their last remaining abstention, and abandoning it is their best chance to kill off the SDLP. An opportunity they aren’t going to want to pass up on the off chance of shedding a few more dissidents.
    You guessed, of course, that I don’t have any inside information.

  • Le Cochon Bleu

    Gerry’s been having some more NLP lessons.
    However, it’s probably a straightforward thing to take advantage of what many people feel, that the unionist parties seem to be becoming more and more entrenched in archaism. They really ought to take heed.