POTD – Mount Vernon Welcomes You

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  • Neil

    I know for my family that’s the number one concern right now. Supergrass Trials.

  • HeinzGuderian

    I know for my family,the number one concern is mooch’s exclusion from sunny West Belfast !!! 😉

  • ranger1640

    Another classic snap form Mr MP, depicting the only terrorists on the island Mr MP seems to be aware off.

    Compare this with his snap, with his rather jovial snap of the Long Creche poster at the Sinn Fein conference.

    However if he was bothered to take a wee dander around the Waterfront venue, he would have found interesting republican terrorist subject matter, notwithstanding the fact that this terrorist subject matter was on sale at a political parties annual conference.

    Not that we would expect Mr MP to go out of his way to show some balance. But why let balance get in the way of another poor snap.

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-nNe9XuOYrew/Tm4QcFkbEvI/AAAAAAAABNg/mWpYXJi1xE0/s1600/SANY2141.jpg

    PS, Mr MP also doesn’t do republican bonfires!!!!

  • Neil

    Here comes the messenger assasination squad.

    By the way Ranger, I’m sure you’re aware you can buy books on a wide range of subjects and biographies of all sorts of people. It’s called history. You should learn not to feel threatened by it.

  • jthree
  • HeinzGuderian

    You can take photographs on a wide range of subjects…….it’s called objectivity,don’t you know. 😉

  • ranger1640

    Memo to Neil.

    Dear Neil,
    I have set a reminder to myself that I must remember that all of my future posts must go to you for vetting.

    Jthree, I appreciate the link however I have a rather fine Canon 12 million pixel camera thanks. However just like you, I do not have permission to post a thread with any of my photos here.

    So I will do what I can with Neil’s help, and comment on the snaps that Mr MP puts up here.

    By the way Mr MP still doesn’t do republican bonfires!!!

  • jthree

    “However just like you, I do not have permission to post a thread with any of my photos here. ”

    Here you go again:

    http://www.flickr.com/

  • ranger1640

    Oh I see jthree. However it’s not just quite the same thing, as starting a new thread, posting photos and putting up your own heading????

  • MonkDeWallyDeHonk

    HG

    “it’s called objectivity,don’t you know”

    You certainly don’t!

  • MonkDeWallyDeHonk

    Ranger

    “Another classic snap form Mr MP, depicting the only terrorists on the island Mr MP seems to be aware off”

    The words “Pot, Kettle and Black” come racing to mind.

  • jthree

    “Oh I see jthree. However it’s not just quite the same thing, as starting a new thread, posting photos and putting up your own heading????”

    Don’t you have your own blog (or is that another ranger1640)?

    You can photos and threads there all day to your heart’s content.

  • galloglaigh

    depicting the only terrorists on the island

    Well it makes a refreshing change from loyalists accusing republicans of being the only terrorists on the island.

    Keep up the good work MP.

  • ranger1640

    MDWDH, can you please explain “The words “Pot, Kettle and Black” come racing to mind”. In the contest to my post.

    Jthree, I see, you want me to go a blog and post photos, when you quite obviously know I was referring to posing photos and commenting on same here on Slugger.

    interesting concept developing on this board???

    I’m glad you clarified the situation for me jthree. Please let me summarise if I may, Neil only wants me to comment on Mr M’s photos when he (Neil) has vetted them for their historical content, and you want me to go to another site.

  • michael-mcivor

    Haddock and his not so merry men would not last long on a F.A.S.T-

  • Mark

    That’s about the size of it Ranger .

  • circles

    I’m trying to work out why ranger has got his boxers in such a twist over a photograph. Are you embarassed by this picture ranger? What annoys you so much about it?

  • Neil

    Please let me summarise if I may, Neil only wants me to comment on Mr M’s photos when he (Neil) has vetted them for their historical content, and you want me to go to another site.

    You misunderstand. Allow me to explain. You commented “he would have found interesting republican terrorist subject matter” and posted a link which led to an image of a book.

    I stated, in response to your link “By the way Ranger, I’m sure you’re aware you can buy books on a wide range of subjects and biographies of all sorts of people. It’s called history.”

    I did not state that I only wanted you to comment “on Mr M’s photos when he (Neil) has vetted them for their historical content”, rather that what you seem outraged about is in fact a book covering historical material relating to Northern Ireland.

    You can in fact buy ‘books’ containing ‘historical material’ in many shops including Waterstones. No need to be outraged at ‘books’ containing ‘history’ Ranger, that was all I said. The last thing I would want to have to do is read all of your posts Ranger, it’s quite enough with some of them.

    Regarding the side debate, Mick I believe will allow us to post pictures, threads etc. So the point made was if you feel you could do better, by all means get up off your hole and strike out for West Belfast, no one will know or even care if you’re a Protestant, unless you have a UVF tattoo on your forehead or something.

  • Greenflag

    Give up the banter lads and try to focus on the inherent somewhat fantastic connections and relevance this photo has for modern Ireland and indeed Northern Ireland .

    First there is the Mount Vernon and it’s welcome sign. For a brief moment there I was thrown off balance as I recalled that Mount Vernon was the name chosen by the world’s most successful terrorist /freedom fighter / founder of democracy etc e the great and now much respected George Washington who avoided being hanged as a traitor to the British Empire by virtue of French naval assistance and a long war of resistance. Now what could the connection be between this Mount Vernon and that Mount Vernon be other than coincidence / And then I recalled a piece of trivia I read a while back on the family tree of George Washington which was traced back to England but which was also traced back to a branch of the O’Neill’s who had migrated to England in the time of Hugh and Matthew O’Neill and had intermarried with some minor local English gentry .

    And then there is the head of the tiger festooned with beret .
    Most of us are somewhat painfully reminded of the ‘demise ‘ of a certain Tiger back in 2002 although the corpse was’nt actually eviscerated until 2007/2008. So that’s were the head has ended up on a gable end wall in Belfast 😉

    Yes if you look hard enough you can see anything you want to see on this mural . Look upon it as a kind of popular art bible open to interpretaiton and misinterpretation .

    I don’t know how Mr Moochin feels about being greeted to a neighbourhood which alongside a welcome sign has murals depicting men in hoods wielding machine pistols .

    Is’nt the real message of these murals – Prods Keep Out which of course is replicated in other Belfast areas with the equivalent ‘ Taigs/Fenians Keep Out ‘

    Still better they carry on the long struggle on the ends of gable walls than with gunfire and bombs in the streets say I.

  • anne warren

    Mount Vernon’s an awful place

  • Greenflag

    I’m reminded of the old

    ‘No Pope here ‘ favourite

    with the inevitable

    ‘Lucky old Pope ‘

    graffitied underneath 😉

  • Skinner

    That really would be a funny photograph if it weren’t so tragic. Interesting to see the Republican Network for Goonery taking the same line as the Mount Vernon UVF, decrying the breakdown of justice and human rights. You really couldn’t make it up. Stand up, good people, and laugh at all of these idiots.

  • amadon

    I laughed when I drove past this.. what a joke.

  • wild turkey

    anne warren

    “Mount Vernon’s an awful place”

    spot on. two words sum it up

    “Thomas Devlin”

    remind us ranger1640, how did mount vernon deal with that?

    to the naysayers out there (we will deal with ranger coward in mo) as president clinton said

    “da nile ain’t just a river in africa”

    ranger1640. question. do your pillowcases come with eyeholes or do you make the effort to cut them out yourself.?
    or perhaps you get a dole related grant to help with that? why not, after all you are a victim, eh? and no doubt underprivledged.

    r1640. surely you must use some disguise, how else could you deal with your cowardice?

    note to moderators. give me a card,yellow or red if you chose, but if you do, answer me this. how do you contenance the malevolent white trash bullshit of trolls, cowards actually, like ranger1640?,

    … and before you rush to judgement consider this. both my children attend integrated schools in north belfast, they get there by bus…. and there is only one place that bus has been threatened and abused… and it was not the on antrim road

    it is really past time to wrestle the scum to the mat….

  • anne warren

    Here are the names of some other victims of the paramilitary Ulster Volunteer Force in the loyalist stronghold of Mount Vernon

    Sharon Mc Kenna
    Brothers John and Thomas McErlean
    Sean McParland
    Gerald Brady
    Raymond McCord
    Peter McTasney
    Eamon Fox
    Tommy English
    Gary Convie
    William Harbinson
    Thomas Sheppard
    Rev David Templeton
    David Greer
    Paddy Clarke

    There could well be even more

  • ranger1640

    Wild Turkey, I hope your post stay’s up here to show the world the venom that pervades this site against Unionist posters, when we point out imbalance in posts.

    Ann, you make my point perfectly. The fact that you and Mr MP, only seen to refer to Loyalist terrorists is why I posted my comment in the first case.

  • Millbag

    To be fair to MP, the supergrass trial is highly topical at the moment and has far-reaching consequences for the judicial system in NI.

    Party conferences, on the other hand, are quite dull affairs, nothing more than an annual invigoration of the troops (so to speak).

  • andnowwhat

    Surely Wild Turkey’s post was about !loyalists” not “unionists” and militant (ie. paramilitary loyalists at that)?

    Can we say that the UVF have parked their transfer in to a politics?

  • anne warren

    How little you understand, Ranger 1640

  • Greenflag

    Heres another view of Mount Vernon with Billy Hutchinson speaking out .

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkKg0nX-560

    And here’s a Fenian visiting Mount Vernon and trying to get the locals to have a bit of fun -tough going but he survived .Maybe his accent helped.

  • carl marks

    Ranger
    Do try to see the big picture (no pun attended) the super grass trail in going on right now, it centres round Mount Vernon, Hence the picture is relevant.
    What I think is most interesting about it is the demand for civil rights for the same group glorified by the murals underneath it, the same people who denied the most basic rights (life health and the right to live were they wanted) to anyone who they didn’t like, got in their way or just annoyed them.
    In the past I have sent some pics of my own to slugger which he passed on to MP who for his own reasons decided to not to publish them, I’m sure he had his own reasons for this and since it’s his gig then it is his call.
    Perhaps i can help you with the pot kettle black thing for you, i have never read a post from you that condemns the loyalist murder groups in any of their actions indeed reading your threads you seem to act as a apologist for those groups, on the other hand when republicans do some shameful deed you react with righteous indignation which we could all take seriously if there was any balance all in your posts.

  • Carl my email is moochinphotoman@gmail.com
    If my memory serves me right, Mick has only ever send my details on to one person who had some photos of a RNLI rescue and who was to get in touch with me. They didn’t.