éirígí announce further protests in response to UDA’s invitation to Dublin ceremony

Eamonn Mallie blogged earlier today revealing that UDA brigadiers and representatives have been invited down to Dublin next week.

The UDA’s five brigadiers and 4/5 representatives of their respective districts have been extended invitations to a wreath laying ceremony by Queen Elizabeth at Islandbridge in honour of the war dead. President Mary McAleese’s husband Martin has been involved with UDA leaders in community work for several years. South Belfast brigadier Jackie McDonald regularly visits Aras an Uachtarain.

Confirming the invitations on Wednesday to the Islandbridge leg of the Queen’s visit Mr McDonald said “this represents progress and is a reward for work being done. Others could learn from this.”

éirígí chairperson Brian Leeson has “condemned the decision to invite unionist death squad leaders” and released a statement announcing that on top of existing éirígí plans for protests in and around the Queen’s visit – which include setting up a “freedom camp” in the Garden of Remembrance – they will be organising a specific protest when the Islandbridge wreathlaying ceremony takes place. Leeson said:

This is an outrageous decision. Those organising this entire visit are intent on heaping insult after insult on the people of this city and indeed the entire country

It is bad enough that they invite Windsor, the Commander in Chief of the British military who, in collusion with loyalist death squads were responsible for the Dublin/Monaghan bombings. Now they want to rub salt in the wounds of the victims families by inviting the loyalist death squads themselves as special guests to Dublin.

History, remembering, commemorating and moving on are never simple on this island.

[oneill simultaneously blogged on the UDA’s invitation.]

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  • carl marks

    cant help thinking this tastes bad but if it helps in stopping the udas criminal activities and turns them away from sectarnism then give it a go alas this is just one of many attempts to start them on a new road maybe it will work we will never know till its tried. in the past these people have controlled the gangs who murdered family and friends of mine and im willing to give anything a go that could result in my children not going through that

  • lamhdearg

    Invited by whom?, if its by the irish side, it can only be seen as a attempt to embarrass and Queen, if from the british side, the mind boggles.

  • carl marks

    lamhdearg
    Invited by whom?, if its by the irish side, it can only be seen as a attempt to embarrass and Queen, if from the british side, the mind boggles.
    cant see how it can embarrass the queen nor can i see it coming from the british perhaps we can apply ocams razor “the simpleist explanation that fits the facts is the correct one” perhaps martin mcaleese has used his influence to extend the invite in the hope of bridge building.
    on a side note i look forward to the prss release from the tuv comdemming the queen being insulted by being forced to met terrorists by the evil irish

  • anne warren

    Isn’t or wasn’t the UDA a proscribed organization?

  • carl marks

    sorry i forget to say that having thought long and hard about this in my opinion erigi can go #+&k themselves and let the rest of us get on with life

  • joeCanuck

    This is an outrageous decision.

    I’m not a supporter of Eirigi but I agree with this comment except I might have said disgusting rather than outrageous.
    Apart from anything else, this strange attempt at outreach (?) will probably increase the risk to the Queen’s person.

  • lamhdearg

    carl
    you may not see how it will embarrass the Queen, and it may well not embarrass her person, but watch how the press puts it across. can anyone tell me who extended the invite?.

  • carl marks

    no doubt the press will have a field day but remember the abuse John Hume got when he took the first steps towards the imperfect but better place we are at now, progress need people who have the guts to make unpopular moves, as to increased danger to the queen the dissidents will try whatever they will try and this will not change things one bit.

  • anne warren

    Checked the UK govt website. Hope this information is up to date

    The UDA is a proscribed terrorist group which is outlawed in the UK
    Page 1: Proscribed terrorist groups
    These terrorist organisations are currently proscribed under UK legislation, and therefore outlawed in the UK.
    Last page:
    Proscribed Irish groups
    Continuity Army Council Cumann na mBan Fianna na hEireann Irish National Liberation Army Irish People’s Liberation Organisation Irish Republican Army Loyalist Volunteer Force Orange Volunteers Red Hand Commando Red Hand Defenders Saor Eire Ulster Defence Association Ulster Freedom Fighters Ulster Volunteer Force

    http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/publications/counter-terrorism/proscribed-terror-groups/proscribed-groups?view=Binary

    Why will Her Majesty and the President of her host EU country be meeting members of an organisation Her Majesty’s Government has proscribed?

  • Mark

    For Queen and country … according to Jackie McDonald , it’s a reward , a way of saying thank you for all the hard work – a junket to Dublin to meet the Queen – it beggars belief and it’s asking for trouble or maybe that’s the plan all along ??

  • Henry94

    The invatation must have been approved by both governments.

  • Mark

    What else do you expect from a Fine Gael led govt ? Sure they may as well wait around for the Obama visit , they can stay with the McAleeses , maybe do the Late Late ..

  • Nunoftheabove

    I’m not quite decided yet on which of the attendees is choosing to keep the most low grade company in this situation 😉

  • USA

    Has the UDA given up their guns?
    Did they call a ceasefire?
    I hope the answer is yes to both these questions, otherwise this is a completely stupid decision and Martin McAleese needs to wise up.

    And even if they have called a ceasefire and destroyed all their weapons, I still don’t think it’s a good idea to involve the UDA in the Queen of England’s visit to Ireland. What kind of photo is that going to make? Queenie being flanked at a war memorial by the UDA. Not a smart move at all. Crass, stupid, idiotic, lunacy, daft, detracts from her visit, sends the wrong message, does not send a consistant message. Utter folly, would serve to keep me away from the event if I was living in Dublin.

  • wee buns

    An invitation for trouble, when it could/should have been kept neutral.

  • gréagóir o frainclín

    I thought these eirigi folk are supposed to be Republicans…. ye know Republicans and Republicanism – the sublime ideology, all enlightened and above all else, that recognise democracy, difference of opinions and equal rights for all etc..

    In fact I believe they are facists instead.

    I bet they never even heard of the Englishman Thomas Paine!

    They won’t unite Ireland!

  • AGlassOfHine

    Not sure I’m reading this correctly ?
    On Paddy’s Day,pira commander in death,is invited to the White House to meet El Presidente……….thats okay ??

    Hold on while I check back through the blogs,to read the outrage,disgust,nay,down right abhorrence at that decision…..

    …..this may take a while……..;-)

  • AGlassOfHine

    Couldn’t find any condemnation of pira godfathers being invited to the White House. Now there’s a surprise………….

    Further……….Two short weeks ago Robert Mugabe,( responsible for more deaths than Bin Laden),was invited to the Vatican City . S’funny,but I can’t seem to find any condemnation of that either ??

    Please excuse me if I take this *moral outrage* with a BIG,BIG pinch of salt !! 😉

  • carl marks

    AGlassOfHine
    Couldn’t find any condemnation of pira godfathers being invited to the White House. Now there’s a surprise………….

    Further……….Two short weeks ago Robert Mugabe,( responsible for more deaths than Bin Laden),was invited to the Vatican City . S’funny,but I can’t seem to find any condemnation of that either ??

    Please excuse me if I take this *moral outrage* with a BIG,BIG pinch of salt

    as indeed we take your moral outrage with a large pinch of salt the uda has murdered and injured many people they were responsible for sone of the worst events of our dirty little war they sell drugs to protestant and catholic kids run brothels and still intimadate large groups of there own people so the moral outrage is understandable i also feel it but am willing to bite the bullet for a better future you as usual manage to see the mote in other people eyes but miss the beam in your own

  • Henry94

    carl marks

    Couldn’t find any condemnation of pira godfathers being invited to the White House. Now there’s a surprise………….

    Were the Army Council invited? No, it was elected representatives on the same basis as other elected representatives. If the UDA brigadiers get themselves a mandate then it will be appropriate to recognise it. That doesn’t mean there should be no contact but to invite them to a formal occasion is a step too far and a mistake which should be reversed.

  • carl marks

    AGlassOfHine

    forget to ask do you object to uda leaders meeting the queen i only ask because your post only referred to the white house (can see the link there) and the vatican (explain the link) but u never mentionend ur views on the issue being discussed surely if you object to mmg meeting obama them you also object to jackie mc donald meeting the queen

  • JR

    A glass of hine,
    Invited was he? As far as I am aware he showed up.

    Leamhdhearg,
    Given all the extrordinary lengths the Irish government are going to to make the queens visit a success I hardly think they are also plotting how to embarrass her.

  • Cynic2

    “Eigiri organise another protest”

    2 x 0 = 0

  • carl marks

    Cynic2
    “Eigiri organise another protest”

    2 x 0 = 0

    LoL

  • carl marks

    Henry94
    you quoted me quoting a glass of hine

    never the less you make a good point as i have tried to point out im not happy with this but am willing to see it tried it might help, as for the queens embrassament she has shook hands with many mass murderers in the past and no doubt will in the future shake hands with many more.im off to work now i look forward to reading aglass of hines answer to my questions when i get back.

  • Rory Carr

    I wonder if, in a parity of esteem gesture, the McAleeses will invite a colour party from the Ku Klux Klan along to welcome President Obama.

  • Crubeen

    With all due respect to other posters, is the real point not missed here?

    Once upon a time any invitation to any self-respecting Loyalist to visit, never mind attend an official function held under the grey skies of the Republic (as opposed to the blue skies of Ulster) would have been met with utter derision and howls of rejection.

    We certainly seem to have progressed somewhat.

    If “Tractor Tom” also goes, we shall have prgressed even further.

  • Crubeen

    PS Rory

    Do you think the Klan would come … if invited?

  • Alias

    So ‘progress’ is defined as an occasion when the scum of the earth no longer snub the great and the good. Interesting.

    I pity the business people in NI who are handing their modest profits over to these ‘brigadeers’ via protection rackets. It must be discouraging to see these degenerates being legitimised and made respectable by the respective states, and know that no action can be taken against them lest such action embarrass the political class by association.

  • Crubeen

    I well remember when our Gerry was the ‘bete noir’ of all right-thinking people and how a visit from wee Johnny and a visa from Big Bill served to help point out the error of his ways and bring him in from the cold.

    Who knows but that certain people are being invited to see the fruits and delicacies that could be on permanent offer … if only they were to see things in the right light.

  • andnowwhat

    What was it happened when the BNP were invited to a garden party in B Palace last year?

  • Crubeen

    “Nick Griffin MEP will be denied entry to today’s garden party at Buckingham Palace due to the fact he has overtly used his personal invitation for party political purpose through the media. This in turn has increased the security threat and the potential discomfort to the many other guests also attending” – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10723764

    He broke the rules… got his invitation withdrawn.

    Much though he is disliked he does ‘represent’ a constituency and is an elected member of the European Parliament. Of course the lads from the UDA are not elected representatives though they do represent a shade of opinion. And besides all that isn’t the BNP currently on the rocks riven by dissent and financial distress.

    Who knows what is coming down the line!!

  • AGlassOfHine

    I don’t think any uda scumbags will actually be meeting HM The Queen………….just ;pointing out the vile hypocrisy some posters have with this,and with pira murder squad commanders going to the White House !!

    Now I’m not certain about this,but if Mugabe hada been invited to the Royal Wedding a few short weeks ago,the usual suspects would have been going apoplectic !!
    The Holey Papa invites him to Rome and…………………..nathin. Zilch. Nada.

    Beams in eyes searchers, and stone throwers in glass houses,beware !!

  • AGlassOfHine

    karl

    re,the drugs trade

    Are you honestly trying to tell me there are no *republicans* dealing in drugs,protection rackets,intimidation rackets,smuggled cigarettes,tobacco,diesel ?????

    Pull the other one,it plays,Always Look on the Bright Side of Life !!!! 😉

  • carl marks

    AGlassOfHine

    yu still havnt answered my question are u for or againt the uda attending this event or not and what does a african dictator visiting the vatican have to do with this thread it seems to me that bringing the pope (and believe me im no fan) into this is just that old oo trick of when in trouble blame old red socks. yes there are republicians involved in crime but as individuals not as a organization the loyalists on the other hand are involved as a organization (if you dont believe me ask the psni)

  • JR

    A glass of hine, As I have already pointed out, Mugabe was not invited, he took advantage of the Vatican’s lack of any extradition laws and just showed up but never let the truth get in the way of a good dig at the Catholics.

  • carl marks

    just had a peek at the tuv website roaring jim doesnt seen to have noticed the whole queen uda thing strange that, but good news he has got upset about the pat finucane enquiry. but bad news for a glass of hine he seems to have missed the pope and magabe thing even he doesnt think its revelant to northern ireland/north of ireland,
    hiney im still waiting for answers.

  • carl marks

    uup and dup nathin. Zilch. Nada. to quote hiney would seem that very few unionists are upset about this. thers that many searchlights coming out of eyes here that im going to need my dark glass’s. still hiney it must be nice to know that ur not on your own

  • Alf

    “I wonder if, in a parity of esteem gesture, the McAleeses will invite a colour party from the Ku Klux Klan along to welcome President Obama.”

    Rory,

    Undoubtably there will be descendants of the Irish folks who burned down an orphanage full of black children during the New York draft riots present. Will they suffice?

  • carl marks

    alf got anything to say on the subject of the thread. maybe along with the irish orphanage burners we can have descendants of the slavers who went to africa and kidnaped people to work there suger plantations as a matter of fact the queen could bring some of her relatives thats were they made the big money. grow up man and deal with the thread or am i going to have to wait for you to tell us if you think the uda should be invited or not this whole klan thing is just a distraction from the point

  • Alf

    carl,

    With reference to slavers. Did you ever consider where Eddie Murphy got his surname from?

  • Mac

    “With reference to slavers. Did you ever consider where Eddie Murphy got his surname from?”

    His Da?

  • carl marks

    yes i once worked in jamaica as a volunteer for the united reformed church and met a minister with the same surmane as myself turned out that he was a descendent of a slave owned by a irishman of my name i was ashamed of this fact he also told me that his ancestor was bought(what a disgusting concept) from the british governor of the island my point was we all have history to be ashamed of and i am ashamed of that slaveowner with my name. now answer the question do you think the uda should be there or not

  • Alf

    carl,

    I don’t think that the UDA should exist let alone pollute the air around Her Majesty the Queen.

  • carl marks

    alf
    on a side point eddie murphy may be descended from the moroons(think i spelt that right) who were irishman and women sent into slavery by the british for being rebels the kept on rebelling and held the blue mountains as a free zone for over a hundred years welcoming all escaped slaves in moroons country they called ireland the mother country in the rest of jamaica africa is called the home home country. still waiting for your answer

  • carl marks

    sorry got ur answer since most of them worked for the brits they might have a differant view but thanks for answering. wonder whats keeping a glass of hine

  • lamhdearg

    Invite aside, if the mexican shows up i will eat my hat.

  • carl marks

    AGlassOfHine (profile) says:
    15 May 2011 at 6:01 pm

    karl

    re,the drugs trade

    Are you honestly trying to tell me there are no *republicans* dealing in drugs,protection rackets,intimidation rackets,smuggled cigarettes,tobacco,diesel ?????

    Pull the other one,it plays,Always Look on the Bright Side of Life !!!! 😉

    think i have pulled the other one cant hear any monty python im of to bed ur going to need a eye mask to sleep with those headlights coming out of your eyes. nite nite

  • Taibhse-wolf-tone-

    Carl,it’s even acknowledged by the state security that ‘republicans’ are not involved in the drugs trade.I don’t vote Sinn fein,but i think it’s only fair to grant them ‘that.On the otherhand David Irvine once said that the RUC were allowing drug-dealers to ply their trade in the open….

  • carl marks

    those following this thread will know that i have asked a glass of hine to answer two questions,
    1 what does the visit of magabe have to do with this thread,
    2 should the uda meet the queen
    his silence worried me i thought that perhaps he was sick but since yesterday he has posted on two other threads it appears that we will never know his answers so i feel free to jump to my own conclusions please those reading this feel free to do the same.