“À la Bastille!”

On Bastille Day Boing Boing’s advice still stands, although not, perhaps, in a court of law.. And with renewed unrest in France, in the Irish Times Lara Marlowe asks “Has the French Revolution ever ended?” Btw, if you missed it at the weekend there’s still time to catch the BBC’s Terror! Robespierre and the French Revolution, complete with Robespierre’s historical warnings of “dissident journalists”.. So, once again, Vive la France!

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  • Greenflag

    Vive la France and God Shave the Queen 😉

    The long version complete with gruesome english near translation . Makes the Soldiers Song sound (in translation ) like a nursery rhyme.

    Casablanca’s a bit dated PB. To do justice to the day and France’s unique contribution to the world and for those who still believe in liberte , egalite et fraternite something longer and somewhat sharoer is required on this great day and particularly in these perilous times ?

    What the world needs now is another French Revolution complete with guillotine and marching mobs:) This time around the march should be on Wall St, Washington, Westminster and the Dail and the Assembly drag out the thieving wretches ‘ and make productive use of Madame Guillotine .

    Ah mes amis – a bas l’ancien regime 🙂

    But we’re all too fat and overweight and there are too many channels on the TV and the prods aren’t up for co they all still hungover from yesterday .

    Ah well next year perhaps ?

  • Pete Baker

    Casablanca may be dated, Greenie, but it’s still a great film.

    And Robespierre’s tale has never been more relevant.

  • Greenflag

    ‘And Robespierre’s tale has never been more relevant.’

    Play it again eh :)?

    I’d have thought Messrs Madoff , Stanford , AIG, Lehmans , Bear Stearns , Merril Lynch , Cheney, Rumsfeld , and rest of the gang of several hundred have wrought more damage on the world than a hundred Robespierres .

    A bas le monarchie ! Vive La Republique ! and sod the begrudgers 😉

    Mind you Chou En Lai still thought it was too early to judge the political significance of the French Revolution and that was in the early 1970 ‘s iirc .

  • Pete Baker

    I’m not particularly interested in who you think is the best/worst villain in world history, Greenflag.

    The point was to highlight the modern parallels to Robespierre’s labelling of critics as “enemies of the Republic” and his denunciations of the dissident journalists of the day.

  • Greenflag

    ‘highlight the modern parallels to Robespierre’s labelling of critics as “enemies of the Republic”’

    Which modern parallels would they be ? How about a specific example so I can see the meat and potatoes ? Hot air tends to blow over .
    The only ‘enemies ‘ of the Republic imho are unionists , monarchists , and those who still refuse to accept the terms of the 1998 GFA which established by democratic consent in referenda expresly called for that purpose – the future political dispensation/dispensations of the people/peoples of this island .

  • Greenflag

    ‘highlight the modern parallels to Robespierre’s labelling of critics as “enemies of the Republic”’

    Which modern parallels would they be ? How about a specific example so I can see the detail? Hot air tends to blow over .
    The only ‘enemies ‘ of the Republic imho are unionists , monarchists , and those who still refuse to accept the terms of the 1998 GFA which established by democratic consent in referenda expressly called for that purpose – the future political dispensation/dispensations of the people/peoples of this island . I use the word ‘enemies ‘ guardedly for as long as unionists , monarchists and both sets of dissidents refrain from the use of violence then although they may be enemies of the ‘Republic ‘ they are at least as long as they abide by the terms of the GFA ‘loyal ‘ enemies .

  • Pete Baker

    Well there’s a link to a parallel in the denunciation of dissident journalists in the original post, Greenflag.

    But you probably need to watch the BBC programme, also linked, to get the full import.

    Oh, and try not to be so literal. ;o)

  • BM

    Great programme by the BBC there- even if the acting was a bit gacky, Schama was on form.

  • I was disappointed by the BBC programme, far too much reconstruction and not enough actual history. I can’t stand Schama’s book Citizens, it’s such an overly verbose, hysterical work, to the point of shedding all pretence of historical writing. For revisionist accounts of the French Revolution, Furet and Cobban are far more worthwhile. Zizek was entertaining though.

  • Pete Baker

    1967

    I’m not usually a fan of dramatic reconstruction in historical docs. But I enjoyed this one.

    And yes, Zizek was entertaining.

  • Greenflag

    PB ,

    ‘Well there’s a link to a parallel in the denunciation of dissident journalists in the original post’

    I read that . Not considering NI to be the centre of the political universe is a failing of mine 🙂 . And no I don’t rate any of the dissidents or any of the politicians as being up /down (take your pick ) to Robespierre standards .
    Schama’s earlier history of Britain was excellent particularly his take on Winston Churchill and George Orwell .. Unfortunately I missed ‘Terror’ . No time for aristocracy ye see . Can’t even be bothered to see them losing their heads .

    Away with them all I say. Not to the guillotine of course . That knd of thing is frowned upon these days except in Saudi Arabia etc