“We don’t believe that any deal between the DUP here and the English Tories will be good for the people here.”

So stated the Sinn Féin president, Gerry Adams, as he paraded his “Magnificent Seven” MPs [and Carál Ní Chuilín – Ed] in front of the media at a press conference at Stormont yesterday.  But whilst most reports focused on that line, or a variation on it, only the Irish Times’ Gerry Moriarty appears to have still been listening when he went on to say…

[Gerry Adams] said Sinn Féin would not reject any positive deal that might emerge from these DUP-Tory talks. “We never turn up our nose at good deals. Let’s wait until we see what sort of deal is done,” he said.

So he believes that there could be a deal between the DUP here and the English Tories that would be good for the people here?  [Yeah but, no but, yeah but… – Ed]

Here’s the relevant section from the Irish Times report

Before entering the talks Mr Adams held a press conference with the party’s seven MPs by his side. He again expressed his opposition to the prospective DUP-Conservatives agreement.

“It is a coalition for chaos in the time ahead,” he said.

“We don’t believe that any deal between the DUP here and the English Tories will be good for the people here. Any deal that undercuts in any way the process here of the Good Friday and other agreements is one that has to be opposed by progressives,” he added.

Mr Adams said there was a “huge onus” on Taoiseach Enda Kenny and the incoming taoiseach to “ensure that all aspects of these agreements are implemented”.

Earlier, Mr Varadkar said the British government should not become too close to any party in Northern Ireland. “Our role as governments here in Dublin and in London is to act as co-guarantors and not to be close to any particular party,” he said.

Mr Adams said Brexit was the train coming down the tracks. “We all need to be match fit to face up to the responsibilities there. What we need is a united Executive that has a long term strategic view which is to the mutual advantage of everyone who lives on this island,” he added.

He said Sinn Féin would not reject any positive deal that might emerge from these DUP-Tory talks. “We never turn up our nose at good deals. Let’s wait until we see what sort of deal is done,” he said.

On parties’ roles in national parliaments, the DUP leader, Arlene Foster, is quoted in the Guardian

Speaking on the first day of renewed devolution talks in Belfast, [DUP leader, Arlene] Foster said: “Parliamentarians would like to play as full a role as they possibly can in our national parliament, just as some in Sinn Féin would like to play a role in the Irish parliament. I think this is a tremendous opportunity not just for this party but for Northern Ireland in terms of the nation, and we’re looking forward to playing our part in that.”

And back to the Irish Times for a more pointed quote,

[Arlene Foster] warned that a consequence of failing to re-establish a power-sharing executive would be the return of direct rule, with decisions on devolved issues being taken by the government in Westminster.

“If others decide that they are not coming back into the devolved administration here in Northern Ireland then those issues will have to be dealt with at Westminster,” she said. It is really for Sinn Féin to decide where they want those powers to lie.”

As for Gerry’s ‘Magnificent Seven’, they do realise not all seven made it to the end of the movie

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  • LiamÓhÉ
  • Jane

    Interesting. This is turning into a bit of a game of poker.

    Because UK is such an important export market for Irish Republic brexit means that the Irish government wants to maintain a good working relationship with the UK, so they aren’t going to get dragged into this game of condemning an agreement.

    Adams appears to be realising there might be some possible benefits to NI from a good deal, though obviously he has to do the posturing bit first, even if it is a little qualified.

    While a few past it politicians in England who should know better, start criticising the Tory deal, and we all discover that Major, Brown and Miliband have all courted NI unionist MPs in the past.

    I think the voters will win on this one. In that their needs will come before ideology, which will be a refreshing change.

  • Jane

    They have taken expenses for years, and that may be a requirement for getting them. So it might just be what they always do, and the English press, which is prone to get over excited these days, are thinking it’s more significant than it is.

    And no doubt Sinn Fein love the game….

  • Barney

    What is this opinion piece about?

    Stating that you don’t believe something will happen doesn’t mean that you think its impossible that something may happen. Logically Adams is correct and is also demonstrating an open mind [unlike Ed ].

    No serious commentator is objecting to the DUP taking part or propping up a minority government. The objection is that such an action clearly compromises HMG impartiality in talks where they must be impartial.

    Pointing out that foul opinions are foul opinions is normal for any political party.

  • Jag

    “”I think she should take control of that and not be too mesmerised by what’s happening on our nearest offshore island; everything comes back to here and this part of our island.” says Gerry*

    Is there something happening on the Isle of Man, or maybe Rathlin Island that we’re not being told about.

    * https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0612/881981-northern-ireland-politics/

  • LiamÓhÉ

    You’re surely right there. In any case, there is some pleasure to be had to see Irish affairs and Irish political parties like the DUP shaping ‘mainland’ politics. To some extent, the DUP now have a voice for all of Ireland on the border issue…

  • james

    Not sure about the game – but SF certainly seem to love the free money

  • Jane

    I agree.

  • Karl

    “…they do realise not all seven made it to the end of the movie…”

    3 did, two leaders and a young gun. The greedy and the fatally flawed were cut down as they addressed their own demons from the past. Dont forget they beat the bad guys though. Calvera didnt like equality either.

    But in the end, they recognised that only the farmers won. Maybe just the ones with the big pellet burners.

  • Barneyt

    Direct rule works for the DUP regardless of recent events. If and when storming defaults, the DUP can still directly rule.

  • BonaparteOCoonassa

    And what a voice. If I was them I’d be pretty quiet and discreet for a long, long time, but god-botherers will insist on bothering (others). Not going to be nice living in an imported theocracy – not that it’s going to last long.

  • Martin Warne

    You’re right-this is about the UK as a whole and not just about Northern Ireland.

  • Martin Warne

    Mathematics was never Sinn Fein’s strong point

    The Democratic 10 will always prevail over the Abstentionist 7

  • Martin Warne

    Despite what ill-informed and out-dated tripe comes out from people like John Major and street demonstrators hyped up by back-lighted Wiki-page lies and Facebook rants, Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein are far more pragmatic than they given credit for.

    Any potential deal between DUP and the Conservatives will in the first place be in the best interests of the United Kingdom as a whole.

    But everyone in Northern Ireland will benefit. Not necessarily from a massive cash boost to Belfast but from DUP enabled softened austerity for working families and maintaining the status quo on the NI/ROI border.

    Sinn Fein can make some noise in front of Mr Corbyn but in reality they know on which side their bread is really buttered.

    A near 20 year working relationship with DUP in the Northern ireland Assembly with only a few hiccups—that could never be achieved that with any other two parties.

    DUP and Sinn Fein can send their MLAs back into Stormont and get the executive up and running again before the summer gets too far gone.

    Sinn Fein value the Good Friday Agreement just as much as anybody else does and Gerry Adams know it– I could never agree with his politics but I know he’s not a fool !

    It’s high time the rest of the UK woke up and saw for themselves that DUP and Sinn Fein are not alien curiosities from some far off galaxy but they are serious minded politicians who care passionately about the people they represent.

  • Donal

    Agree. SF need to get back into stormont and help spend/oversee the new investment from London.

    Interesting times. I am sure they can find a fudge on gay right issue and on Mrs Foster temporarily stepping aside (surely that time period has now elapsed since stormont fell !)
    SF must see that Politics is about making decisions to improve the lives of others.

    Perhaps in 3 or 4 years SF can help prop up Corbyn and we’ll get another load of goodies before the English catch on!

  • Abucs

    “…….Mr Adams said there was a “huge onus” on Taoiseach Enda Kenny and the incoming taoiseach to “ensure that all aspects of these agreements are implemented”……..”

    Aspects like the NI parliamentary executive?

  • Ben De Hellenbacque

    In addition, May needs to be seen as not having capitulated to the DUP. After all she has yet to negotiate deals with heftier trade partners than those found in NI and any apparent weakness in her negotiating abilities will be exploited there.

  • Jane

    I would agree on that, but it depends what she concedes, if she were politically clever she could concede things to them that are beneficial in a broader way, without losing face.

    But since the election I have come to the conclusion she has no political skills whatsoever, so who knows what she’ll do.