Families paying a high price for teen drug abuse…

I am witnessing the brutal and cruel torture of three women.  They have never met yet each tells the same painful story and each can see no way out of their problems.   If they fail to find a solution, and there is no guarantee they will, this continuing abuse will lead, slowly and inevitably, to their own destruction.  They are victims brought low by circumstances beyond their control and they are imprisoned by a hard-wired human emotion; motherly love.

Each mother noticed a change in her son around the age of fifteen.  The first manifestations were mood changes and behavioural problems.  Poor school performance high-lighted an issue they were yet to understand.   A visit from social workers had the sons assessed for mental health problems yet none was found. Support of a sort was provided and more flexible schooling offered.  But it took some time to establish the real horror that their much-loved son had been, and was, using cannabis, and increasingly, other recreational drugs.  Social services offered counselling and support as family relationships fractured under the strain.  The mothers tried to understand, as the counsellors told them they should, and they hoped that their sons would return to them out of a fog of self-indulgent indifference.

But things only got worse. Men started calling to the door demanding money with malice insisting their sons’ drug debts be paid.    Expensive play stations disappeared to be pawned and housekeeping money was stolen from purses. Their boys would spend days in bed refusing to communicate and nights out who knows where.  And then, phone calls at 4 a.m., telling the mothers that their sons were at a well-known location, money was owed and there would be physically punishment unless she brings down £40.  She always does.

A miraculous improvement four days before Christmas brought one family a ray of hope.  Son said he was sorry for all the problems caused and now that détente had been established he would like a bike for Christmas.  In fact he had seen one in the paper for sale which was ideal as he wanted to get fit again.   The family phoned the vendor then drove to a house where the bike was bought for £400.  It was a bargain the parents were told.    Christmas was idyllic but a few days after there was a knock on the door and the son’s friend, accompanied by his father, claimed the bike had been stolen a few weeks before Christmas and he believed it was his and could prove it as his signature was scratched under the saddle.

While gently questioning the mother about this incident, it was distressingly heart-breaking to watch as tears welled up in her eyes and she slowly began to realise that the bike purchase was just another scam.

Another son, in court on a charge of car theft, was so stoned on “spice” a cannabis derivative, he was unable to stand upright.  The solicitor decided he was too intoxicated to go before the judge and suggested the mother take him for something to eat.   Distressed, and will little assistance, she was attempting to direct him out of the court house when the police cautioned her that if she assaulted her son again she would be arrested.

None of the statutory or the voluntary agencies provides much help; but they do try.  As a reason or perhaps excuse for not providing help, the mothers are being told that cannabis is not addictive when the evidence is clear; each of these boys have developed strong compulsive behaviours associated with cannabis use.

Their sons are in constant contact with people who supply cannabis and other drugs with impunity and, these individuals, have the ability to force mothers to financially support their son’s drug habits threatening to burn their houses or shoot them if the police are involved.

The libertarians will say that this is why cannabis use should be legalised and they with cite selective evidence of social experiments in legalisation such as in Portugal.  I would suggest they look after one of these boys for an afternoon and when they see the long-term effects of cannabis and its synthetic derivatives on the adolescent brain, they might form a different view.

Each of the mothers is in counselling and it is my hope they stay strong as they are the only thing that is keeping three young men from total perdition.   I have no idea how many more of these mothers are out there.  And if these mothers break, and some eventually will, the cost will be on us all.

Terry Maguire is a pharmacist in Belfast

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  • Conchúr Ó Conghaile

    Wouldn’t it make sense then to legalise and regulate the Cannabis market?

    If Cannabis was regulated in a similar manner as the Alcohol and Tobacco industry where only licensed suppliers who are mandated to check for ID so they won’t sell to underage customers then teenagers would find it a lot harder to access these drugs. Regulation of the industry would also push the street drug dealers out of the market. The author of this piece is a drug dealer as he is a pharmacist but due to the legal status of the drugs he supplies, there is a extensive quality control, regulatory oversight and ethical codes. The same standards should be applied to the Cannabis industry

    In Colorado since they have legalised, regulated and taxed the Cannabis industry, teen drug consumption has actually gone down.

    Prohibition doesn’t really work and it’s only going to create more tragic stories like these ones. I’m not a ‘Libertarian’ Libertarianism is an ideology that desires that the state has no role in the market and it has no regulatory oversight. I’m the opposite I want the state to realise that prohibition does more harm than good as it creates perverse incentives that create a black market. I want the state to take control of the market so it minimises harm and risk to consumers. It’s a proven model with the alcohol industry which is a drug that is far more dangerous than cannabis. We all know people who had their lives ruined by alcohol addiction but few people would argue to ban alcohol. Every argument for the prohibition of the Cannabis industry can also be used for the alcohol industry but we are aware that the majority of alcohol users consume the drug responsibility and banning it would only make things worse

  • But there are massive illegal markets in cigarettes and alcohol in NI that affect the poor and vulnerable disproportionately, and the profits line the pockets of gangs and paramilitaries, so legalising cannabis would just make life easier for those who had the money to buy it with all its taxes, and not stop the host of social problems.

    From what im aware, it is these synthetic forms such as spice that are doing the damage. These are so potent, they would never be legalised anyways.

    Theres an epidemic of consumption of these drugs in our working class communities. For most of these people, there is no hope in life. Theyre stuck in a vicious cycle of multi generational social dysfunction, and it looks like the system and politicians dont want to do a thing to help.

  • a quiet man

    Quote “spice” a cannabis derivative, is this guy a real pharmacist i hope i never need a script filled by him. a simple understanding of how spice has become a street drug of modern use is not difficult to find out use google.

  • Conchúr Ó Conghaile

    In the alcohol market consumers currently have a choice. They can purchase homebrew moonshine from their local lunatic and take the risk of going blind with it or they can go to an off licence or purchase Alcohol that undergone stringent quality control and you know exactly what’s in it.

    Sure you can buy cheaper Alcohol that has been smuggled in and has avoided the gaze of the taxman from your local villains but you don’t have too when you can easily go to Lidl and Tesco and get the stuff at the mostly same prices without funding paramilitaries.

  • Nolnoc

    Sad and distressing as this story is, and unfortunately all to common. I feel it is wrong to compare “Spice” to Cannabis. One is a completely man made synthetic substance, the other a natural plant that has been used for centuries for medicinal, spiritual and recreational purposes .Although not without its dangers Cannabis use in no way compares with the damage being wrought by synthetic substances such as Spice being sold and consumed today. It is this type of misinformation that muddles the water and hinders proper discussion and debate on how to deal with drug use, both problematic and recreational, in our society

  • Brian O’Neill

    There is strong overlap https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_cannabinoids

    It may not be technically true but spice is getting marketed as synthetic cannabis.

  • Brian O’Neill

    The real question is why are so many people in our society so keen to get off their faces. For the working class it’s prescription and illegal drugs. For the middles classes it’s a bottle of wine or whiskey infront of the telly.

    Our society is making people unhappy.

  • johnny lately

    Terry Maguire is a well known and respected pharmacist from West Belfast who has seen at first hand the chaos and damaged caused by so called street drugs and Spice is synthetic form of cannabis, you only have to walk about Belfast city centre or homeless centres to see the effects that drug has on individuals, its cheap and highly addictive a pushers dream come true but tackling Spice would only scratch the surface of the real problems that drug dealers are inflicting on our people and communities.

  • Conchúr Ó Conghaile

    The desire to ‘Get off your face’ has been a constant of human civilisation. In every continent, in every era humans have found various ways to alter their perspective and perception of the world around them. The desire for Alcohol was one of the key reasons humanity adopted agriculture, the earliest writing discovered was a recipe for beer in ancient Mesopotamia. Indigenous American peoples have been using cannabis for thousands of years. It’s even thought that the desire to use mind altering chemicals might be an evolutionary selected trait. Baboons have been observed using rotten fermented fruit as group bonding rituals. Using psychotropic chemicals may be used as a way to bond our evolutionary ancestors together in their tribes. People aren’t happier or unhappier when they take drugs.

    They are just being human.

  • johnny lately

    Brian you have to ask yourself why all those pushers are able to avoid being brought to justice, peel away the layers of truth like an onion and eventually, when you cannot peel anymore you’ll realise the truth, they get away with what they get away with because it suits either the PSNI or British intelligence just like they allowed hundreds of their agents to murder at will in order to promote their agenda those same paramilitaries, petty thieves and street pushers are allowed to ply their trade for the same reasons.

  • chrisjones2

    Ah yes…. the Brits again

    When will the racist excuses ever stop?

  • Brian O’Neill

    You are right but there does seem to be more loneliness and unhappiness around. Which is odd because we have never been richer, healthier or more safe.

  • chrisjones2

    “People aren’t happier or unhappier when they take drugs.”

    Dear Lord what a foolish comment. Some drugs like cannabis / alcohol induce temporary euphoria or give pleasure. But all of them in excess and some from the very start can be addictive and damaging to physical and mental health. Tobacco kills 50% of its users in the long term. Our A&Es are stuffed with alcohol related illnesses, stabbing and assault vicims and those injured in alcohol related accidents. Substance abuse is probablty the major driver in domestic abuse and marriage break up

  • SDLP supporter

    Oh, come on JL. It’s idiotic to blame “the Brits” or (for some people) the Church for everything bad that happens in this place, up to and including the crap weather. Free will, taking personal responsibility for your own actions, and the potential effects on your family, must come into it. If you follow your own assertions, it’ll soon be argued that our paramilitaries killed nobody in our grubby conflict.

  • Gavin Smithson

    The same could be said for alcohol and the same thing would happen if it was illegal. Also, why do parents let their children out by themselves at night? I’m sorry but my parents didn’t let us out at night by ourselves save for youth club where we were ferried to and fro and chaperoned inside.

    I feel sorry for these parents but this is what usually happens when parents confuse slackness with giving children freedom. Children are to be guided. Honestly I don’t mean to be a curmudgeon but children are prey to pleasing the herd and adults need to protect them. Herd behaviour is always a race to the bottom

    However to deal with the here and now:

    The problem is the culture of drugs being seen as cool. The drug peddlers are the evil ones and they should be treated by the law under emergenct powers and Diplock courts. They are just as evil as terrorists and should be treated as such

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Unhappyness is an essential component part of how the media gets people to do things such as buy products or vote for a political party, Brian. Consumerism and the dissatisfaction which drives personal unhappiness are intimately linked together. Constant images of happy, smiling, healthy people associated with desirable products promotes the idea that if you want any serious fulfilment in your life, you need to buy things or even vote for political parties. Of course, this is just as much of a short term fix as getting of your head on some intoxicant, but with the promise of complete satisfaction encoded into product by advertising, people start to unconsciously assume that the gap between what they are being told in advertisements and what they actually find occurs when the items purchased simply do not make them happy or desirable must be something to do with their won failings. This ensures that a climate of simmering unhappiness is a general condition, let alone the strain of endemic debt which consumerism requires, and which necessitates endless work for the poor to maintain their interest payments. A few months away from a TV screen is a most interesting experience of anyone willing to actually try it out! Its as crude as that.

    Well that’s me off to open the chilled Alsace Sylvaner and join the rest of humanity in self-medication with a glass and a decent film. But being just too aware of what’s going on with this, that’s what a few decades of working with advertising does for you.

  • Gavin Smithson

    The state should actively intervene in such families.

  • Gavin Smithson

    Baboons??? Really???
    The British Empire really has a lot to answer for 🙂

  • SeaanUiNeill

    But people do self medicate with intoxicants when they find life stressful, and in turn any reliance that then develops makes life even more stressful, and has repercussions for the mental condition of such people. And its well attested that alcohol and drug abuse certainly adds to the degeneration of those who already find life unbearable for any reason.

  • burnboilerburn

    Eh no, the British have done their bit over the centuries to slaughter innocent millions indeed etc. But, it is a big stretch to suggest that they are somehow culpable in the context u propose. In fact, Britain has some of the best medical and psychological care for those relient on mood altering substances anywhere in Europe. They face like all societies face, a serious drug problem connected with crime which preys on the vulnerable. It is extremely difficult to get to the both the roots of drug addiction and the root of the supply chain.

  • In my opinion the Pharmaceutical industry are ranked as the 3rd most dangerous drug dealers we have in northern ireland, after the tobacco and alcohol industry (leaving aside sugar and fat) A legal regulated drug market for currently illegal drugs would solve alot of the problems specified in this piece. As a pharmacist the author would be aware of dangerous toxic levels of drugs and can in no way compare opiates and other drugs to cannabis in regards toxicity and danger to health. “NORTHERN Ireland has one of the world’s highest prescription rates for antidepressant medicines according to new research, but fresh questions have emerged over what may be driving the trend.” http://www.thedetail.tv/articles/new-data-shows-northern-ireland-is-a-world-leader-in-prescription-drug-use

  • The Irishman

    You have a point Chris but how is it racist in any way?

  • burnboilerburn

    He get racism and prejudice mixed up.

  • a quiet man

    only by those who pay no heed to facts , spice was created because cannabis was prohibited that is its only link to cannabis it is a result of prohibition not anything to do with the natural plant technically true ? are you for real what next alternative facts. make a contribution but please keep it real

  • a quiet man

    i do not doubt spice is screwing people big time just want facts to stay true its not cannabis it never was and never will be if he is a pharmacist he should know the difference dont tell me he is respected pharmacist on one hand then feed me mumbo jumbo bull crap and expect me to accept your word on it ok

  • Jag

    Has law and order broken down to the extent that parents can’t turn to the police to report intimidation, threats, demands for money by drug dealers? Surely, it doesn’t matter if your child has broken the law by buying or consuming drugs. The point is, it seems to be accepted that drug dealers can come to your door demanding money.

  • Jag

    Northern Ireland has a suicide rate which is 85% higher than the Republic’s. Suicide is a very complex area, with many factors, but I wonder if presciption drugs contribute.

  • Brian O’Neill

    Terry would be first to agree with you that most prescription drugs are pointless or dangerous.

    Does not deflect from this post.

  • Do Pharmacists or publicans come under the same treatment in your eyes?

  • I see when talking about the mix of dangerous drugs the most harmless one is highlighted once again. A pharmacist should really know better, but they don’t unfortunately. Cannabis and SPICE are completely different…to suggest they are similar or relate cannabis to something so dangerous like spice without mentioning the huge difference is extremely irresponsible. Most people who try cannabis enjoy it, you will have people think it isn’t such a leap from cannabis to spice because people who slander cannabis generally haven’t a clue about it, you see where we’re going here? Seriously…wise up before you confuse folk!

    There are only two options here, the average pharmacy or paramilitary personnel know fine well what the situation is and they’re happy to keep the war on cannabis going as it suits them in this moment because they benefit from it through illegal drug trade or the legal one…or they really don’t understand the situation and mis-information around cannabis, repeating the ‘Cannabis is dangerous’ narrative and are ‘protecting’ the community. You people need to sit down and read something once in a while.

    The rate of deaths from prescription pills, opioids, alcohol & suicide drop significantly where people have had been allowed access to cannabis in recent years. A regulated cannabis market would mean it would be illegal for people under a certain age to access, rather than have a £20 note as I.D.

    The psychosis argument around cannabis is null and void, psychosis affects less than 2% of the global population and has always been that way, with the huge rise in cannabis use from the 1960’s we would see a huge rise in the illness, there is not, there is no correlation. Cannabis may accentuate a person’s underlying mental health issues, give that same person alcohol and see which fairs the best for everyone involved…including greater society.

    The government is protecting a miniscule amount of people while everyone pays a high price for prohibition with tax money that could go into better education on drugs, a better health service, taxed legal cannabis would take the huge profits out of the armed gangs pockets and put it into the hands of the people. Prohibition funds legal and illegal violence against young people, families, communities…everybody.

    People should have the right to consume what they like if it harms no-one else, they should be allowed access to cannabis – a drug that has never caused the death of anyone in the history a mankind…no matter how much the daily mail want to find one…or RELATE them with drugs that did cause a toxic death.

    A young person acting up when taking most substances can signify that they have an underlying issue, money spent going after your ‘unwanted’ young people could be used to help them and save the public a huge amount of money spent in pursuit, arrest, forced entry, transportation, remanding, solicitor fees, court proceedings for judgement, imprisonment, humiliation and even sometimes needless ‘rehabilitation’ ( rehabilitation for cannabis is the biggest joke and money scam ever).

    Would you not rather support these people?

    Keeping things as they are fuels astronomical profits for pharmaceutical companies and your paramilitaries. Keeping things as they are will allow for gangs to turn up at family homes and dish out threats because you can’t ask for help from police. Keeping things as they will ensure tons of Northern Irish young people will die from pharmaceutical chemicals. Keeping things as they are leaves tens of thousands of your brothers, sisters, children, parents, family and friends needlessly suffering. Aye great article sure!!!!

  • cj

    Terry Maguire as a pharmacist you should recommend the health benefits of medicinal cannabis . Legal substitutes such as spice are harmful and only exist due to the ban on medicinals. If you legalise it you can go in to a pharmacy and buy it with identification at the age of 18 when your an adult. If it’s illegal you can it at any age! It also funds these paramilitaries who ruin are communities. Medicinal cannabis has been proven to help with cancers, Parkinson’s and muscle pain. The fact that big pharma’s get more profit fobbing off pils to people that sometimes a natural substitute is better . I have lived in a country where it is legal sometimes it takes to go outside your bubble to understand things better.

  • Neil

    So it’s not a derivative of cannabis then.

  • chrisjones2

    How is naked prejudice against people on the basis of their nationality not racist? SF claim that the Irish are a distinct racial group – they arent really but they claim they are

    We all like to dress this guff up as ‘just’ sectarian or prejudice but fundamentally its as racist as a white South African criticising the entire black race

  • chrisjones2

    ..are we then prepared to take all the children at risk into care ….

  • Neil

    Drug dealers make great informants. Especially in Republican areas where drugs dealers are quite likely to come face to face with republican paramilitaries, and we all know the police care somewhat less about the threat of drugs in communities than they do about collaring a dissident. The communities can rot as far as the PSNI is concerned, job one is all they’re concerned with.

  • chrisjones2

    Well many of the dealers do come form the current / former local paramilitaries so it may be a challenge. People have been kneecapped and murdered

  • Neil

    How is naked prejudice against people on the basis of their nationality not racist?

    Because we have a word for prejudice against people on the basis of nationality: xenophobia. Racism is prejudice against people on the basis of their race.

  • Jag

    Fair enough.

    But if a paramilitary came to your door looking for £500, not for any drug debt or anything, what would you do?

  • Katyusha

    Our society has always made people unhappy. Ireland has a particular preoccupation with the use of alcohol as a form of escapism, to null the pain of living in a cold, wet, poverty-stricken, war-riven island in the north Atlantic.

    The difference nowadays I believe is that with the decay of the community, the overload of aggressively pushed information, and the sense that work can invade every aspect of your life, that people are self-medicating not just to mollify the harsh reality of the world, but to help the empty, soulless hours pass by. To combat this would require a society governed with the aim of caring for the population’s psychological and social needs rather than their economic needs, but as Seaan points out below, such a model is not exactly compatible with an economy founded on persuading people to buy useless junk or squander money on status symbols. If the population were to feel happy and content, they might realise they do not need to buy worthless goods in order to have a short moment of contentment – until they move on to the next hit.

    On this point, I would recommend Victor Papanek’s book Design for the Real World to anybody. I’d quote a few lines from it, but it’s on my desk at work unfortunately. Written in 1976, its prophetic warnings are even more relevant to the throwaway society we have today.

    Having said that, there is, I believe, a difference, in people using drugs (either alcohol or illegal drugs) due to social pressures and people using them to fill a hole in their lives. I’m not convinced one is more or less harmful than the other, but it is interesting that social drug use seems to be much less prevalent than it was in the past, and the ubiquity of alcohol in social settings is also diminishing amongst the young. I put it down to a generation that are much more self-conscious, not just about their health, but of the need to always be at the top of their game in order to survive in today’s cut-throat economy.

    One last point, on the piece. The easiest way to combat the use of spice would be to legalise cannabis, a drug which is a known quantity, is relatively safe, and doesn’t cause massive social problems. Take it out of the hands of criminals, and regulate its sale so people know what they are smoking. If alcohol is legal, there is no good reason why cannabis shouldn’t be.

  • johnny lately

    Burnboilerburn do you believe all those street pushers and dealers are far more intelligent than those well paid police officers who’s job it is to ensure society is free from criminal types and yes British intelligence have a track record of allowing not only murderers free reign to murder again at will they also allowed them to rape and kill why else do they wish to withhold information from victims families in cases where collusion is alleged. Perhaps you also believe like SDLP and Chris that collusion was an illusion, that Naula O Loan and Denis Bradley who unlike yourself has seen the evidence that the security services allows their hundreds of agents to murder hundreds upon hundreds of victims, are they telling lies ? Yet you feel its totally out of the question that they allow drug dealers and their peddlers to ply their trade when those same drug dealers are also members of paramilitary gangs on both sides of the religious divide.

  • johnny lately

    Indeed Neil and you have to wonder why the PSNI and British intelligence dont use the same technology they used against the likes of Colin Duffy, Alex Mc Crory and Harry Fitzimmons against loyalist paramilitaries who are the main suppliers in the drugs trade.

  • johnny lately

    What the FK has what I said above got to do with Sinn Fein. You are so obsessed with Sinn Fein that you are blind to what people write you see only what you want to see.

  • johnny lately

    I have no problems with Cannabis, have took it myself when I was seriously ill a while back but I wouldn’t go about claiming that because it caused me no side effects that it wont to others we both know it can lead to other psychotic illnesses like paranoia, schizophrenia,etc that do cause harm. Dont take my word for that ask a doctor.

  • notimetoshine

    This is a scandalous ‘alternative facts’ post if ever I have read one. The author as a pharmacist would claim to be a scientist I should hope, but his argument uses anecdotal evidence from a small sample (so small as to be meaningless), he mixes up drugs to achieve the affect for his post (worrying for a pharmacist) and criticises other studies (without referencing them) on the basis of some emotional stories with very little if any causal link to cannabis.

    A more poorly written article on the impact of drugs on society couldn’t have been written. One of the best argumentum ad passiones I have seen in some time.

  • burnboilerburn

    I know the Gaurds in the South have the divils own job trying to stop those feckers so I imagine its the same for the brits?

  • burnboilerburn

    Where has SF ever claimed the Irish are a distinct racial group? You are confusing ethnicity with race.

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  • chrisjones2

    “Racism is discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. Today, the use of the term “racism” does not easily fall under a single definition.[1]”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

  • chrisjones2

  • chrisjones2

    Its SF who claim the Irish people are different – all that Planter and Gael stuff. Its all nonsense but its a core basis of their phiolosophy

    How can you have ‘ourselves alone’ if there is no ‘ourselves’ in the first place? What is the Irish Nation?

    Open your soul. You are in denial

  • chrisjones2

    almost identical chemically but produced artificially and devastatingly more addictive

  • chrisjones2

    “spice was created because cannabis was prohibited ”

    Sorry but Spice was created to create a new market and get addicts hooked faster and longer and make even more money without the need for all the plants

  • chrisjones2

    “its not cannabis it never was and never will be”

    Chemically its a very close relative. It just takes less time to f**k up your brain

  • chrisjones2

    I have no problkem with medical dispensing of cannabis …its just a drug like paracetamol which can also kill you if you take too much

  • chrisjones2

    Depends where I live. In many areas you pay up or get out

  • chrisjones2

    Sorry – its wider than that – see below

  • johnny lately

    Your infatuation with Sinn Fein knows no bounds Chris, on a thread about drug dealers most of whom are loyalist paramilitaries who were born on the island of Ireland yet claim they are not in any way Irish here you are spouting nonsense about racism.

    Obviously others dont agree with you about the Irish not being a race and who am I to argue with them, they are after all the experts.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/unique-celtic-genes-set-us-a-race-apart-26237637.html

  • johnny lately

    Thanks Chris thats exactly the point I was making.

  • a quiet man

    no it was created because of prohibition open your eyes look at Portugal and other places that dont have the spice problem and ask why. you want to fix the problem then stop using a failed policy the only people who benefit from the present system are the dealers if we made water illegal dealers would have a killer version ready in a week. so stop believing that we can make things go away with a law grow up use the law to look out for your neighbors not judge them

  • cj

    chrisjones2 – what have you been smoking ? lol spice was a legal high or substitute as you may call it . it was only created as a substitute for cannabis as it was made illegal. You go to amsterdam or canada and you dont see people lining up to by spice.

  • cj

    “takes less time to f**k up your brain”
    i believe it helps lower stress, make you enjoy food and life more. good for your brain as it helps you think for yourself and boosts creativity. Not to mention the benefits medicinals have for your body.

    i do believe if more people in NI had medicinals they would be less likely to have more harmful drugs such as alcohol, we would have a more open minded population, would help people with serious illnesses such as Cancers,parkinsons,epilepsy and could help with PTSD.

  • johnny lately

    Its only illegal simply because its so easy to grow yourself and those who promote cigarettes which have led to the deaths of more people than the combined deaths of both World war 1 and 2 would not profit from making Cannabis legal. Those same politicians who object to it being legalised are the same politicians who seem to have also no concerns about those millions who die every year from smoking, or to sodium fluoride, a substance toxic to mankind being added to our drinking water, they also have no objections to the sale of alcohol another killer but a nice little earner for producers and the government. It should be legalised for medicinal purposes and we will eventually follow the lead of many countries, including many American states but the problem arises of production, do you think everyone should be allowed to grow it ourselves or should there be strict laws governing its production.

  • johnny lately

    CJ what cancers does it help with other than be a painkiller ?

  • johnny lately

    Northern Ireland is not policed by Guards, we have the NCA controlled only by the British home office and allowed to operate in this part of Ireland through an illegal process at Stormont, the PSNI who are the RUC renamed, Special Branch/MI5 who’s headquarters is a short distance from East Belfast and those three law enforcement agencies who have access to the latest technology seem to be unable to prevent paramilitary controlled drugs being peddled on our streets that cause the deaths of many of our children. Get real and open your eyes, they get away with what they get away with because it suits a purpose, thats the way its always been in this part of the world and until Britain has no further need to keep its presence in Ireland thats the way it will always be.

  • cj

    Johnny i have first hand experience with people who have had cancer and have been treated with it solely and with chemo. the cancer destroying elements of Medicinal cannabis are greatly enhanced when ingested orally in the form or oil and edibles. If you eat rather than inhale the substance, it has greater effects with reducing all types of cancers. There are over 200 types of cancers so im not going to list them all but the CBD and other elements in THC have been found to either inhibit some cancer cells or even help your system to fight the cancer back. Not only does it greatly reduce the chances of you getting cancer it also increases the life expectancy once you have serious cancers. I have heard and met many people with how they have been cured with using these natural medicines.

    There are many different plants that are high in anti oxidants as well especially mushrooms that are known to help treat cancers.

    Personally i am not saying its a cure what i would advise is people take it with chemo and other treatments from your local GP.

  • johnny lately

    I’ve had both chemo and radiation treatment a few years back cj, and yes I did take Cannabis, purely as a painkiller and as a sedative, inhaled it maybe one joint a night though I never took the oil. I had a few friends with the same type of cancer as myself who did take the oil, they refused radiation and did not survive, neither did a close family relative a young man who like his father and his uncle succumbed to cancer they also used the oil, which wasn’t cheap unless its made at home with your own plants. At this very moment Im caring for someone I love and care for deeply who has weeks to live its difficult not to break down when you hear the cries of pain with every movement of that persons body and I will admit I have used CDB oil to ease the pain. I know for a fact that no amount of cannabis oil will change the situation our family finds ourselves in and its not as if the cancer that has inflicted our family is due to heredity, its a disease thats becoming epidemic in our society whether that be through smoking alcohol, eating meat, our environment or the chemicals they add to our drinking water . I dont doubt you my friend but as someone who has suffered and survived cancer I would never attempt to convince or advise another sufferer that cannabis oil is anything other than a painkiller or sedative but I do not doubt it has healing properties for lots of ailments and possibility skin cancer.

  • Reader

    johnny lately: Obviously others dont agree with you about the Irish not being a race and who am I to argue with them, they are after all the experts.
    Indeed. It makes as much sense to suggest the Irish can be racist against the English as it does to suggest that the English can be racist against the Irish. And sure no-one has ever claimed that, have they?