Foster: “Are you serious? You think the DUP should implement an Irish Language Act?”

It was a tale of two campaign launches this morning as the DUP and Sinn Fein launched their campaigns for the upcoming election.

The DUP Leader, Arlene Foster was asked about her party’s policy on an Irish Language Act and her response was swift and decisive. She compared the implementing of one to “feeding a crocodile” which would simply see more demands made for Unionism

 

However, Michelle O’Neill at the Waterfromt Hall was not taking the bait;

Even though we have been in a period of a campaign for nearly two weeks now, this was the firing of the starting pistols today.

For the DUP the focus is about stopping what they perceive as a threat from a possible resurgent Sinn Fein with a First Minister and Irish Language Act.

For Sinn Fein, the focus is about standing up to what they perceive as DUP arrogance and some way of dealing with the implications of Brexit. There were also the usual messages about no return to the status quo and that they would not engage in a sham fight about who is First Minister.

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  • Annie Breensson

    Don’t let your hate for SF blind you to the possible value of everything they advocate, TB.

    Tony Blair is vilified by many, but he did manage to broker a kind of peace in NI. Was that such a bad thing?

  • On the fence!

    And where is there the slightest shred of evidence that I agree with her to justify mouthpiece above giving me a pile of abuse and you backing him up?

  • NotNowJohnny

    You would think by Mrs Foster’s tone that she hadn’t lost her position as first minister solely at the behest of Sinn Fein. You would think by Mrs Foster’s tone that she and she alone could decide what legislation could and could not be brought forward in the future in Northern Ireland. You would think by Mrs Foster’s tone that she had forgotten that irrespective up how many votes or seats her party gets in this election that Sinn Fein will have the ultimate say in whether she gets to become First Minister again. You would think by Mrs Foster’s tone that she is oblivious to the fact that many people who support the union are getting sick and tired of her arrogance and her sectarian card playing and find her becoming more and more an embarrassment to Northern Ireland.

  • On the fence!

    I did elsewhere.

    But then you do seem to struggle equipping yourself with the correct information before passing judgement.

  • On the fence!

    Note the question mark in the post?

    Leaves you perfectly free to answer either positively or negatively if you so wish.

    So no implication either way on my part.

  • On the fence!

    My own experience of the Irish is that they would generally have no truck whatsoever with republican violence.

    So my own stance towards “the Irish” is based on that, traditional or not.

  • SDLP supporter

    To be honest, and I have read most of the relevant biographies, there is no evidence that Carson was a fluent Irish speaker. I know he is on record as having played a bit of hurling, and his Mum’s family was from East Galway (“a rum lot”, he called them) and would have been swimming in a sea of Irish but he was intellectually quite incurious in his youth and at TCD, though he undoubtedly was a very great advocate.

  • On the fence!

    Why, would that make me more “acceptable”?

  • On the fence!

    Well that’s quite baffling.

    I’ve friends in Loughgiel who we visit quite often and practically every night there’s someone different there too at the same time. Been to a few weddings there and surrounding area. Sold beasts to a few farmers from that part of the country.

    Proper Ulster-Scots speaking part of the country.

  • On the fence!

    Corkey?

  • Jollyraj

    Quite a shocking comment.

  • On the fence!

    This is a bit tedious but you seem to be struggling so,

    “Even after the elections the Nationalist/Republican community MUST
    insist to SF and the SDLP that under no circumstances will we go back
    into any sort of Executive arrangement with these horrible DUP
    dinosaurs.”

    So he wants to negate a sizeable portion of the unionist vote therefore making the shinners the largest party at Stormont.

    DUP supremacy replaced by Sinn Fein supremacy.if his insistence was adhered to.

    Fortunately I don’t think even the shinners themselves would buy that one!

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Give the man his due Annie, Tony certainly made up for that “lapse” and more in Iraq………..

  • On the fence!

    Do you mean the prods?

  • AntrimGael

    As am I sir. However it’s beauty runs parallel with it’s ugliness and while we can look up and admire the sun rising over Strangford Lough we cannot ignore the white crosses in the gloomy graveyards as the sun sets over the Black Mountain.

  • Obelisk

    In that case I’ll answer what I think you asked since you again refused to spell it out more clearly.

    I think it’s more than telling that when someone posts a critique of Northern Ireland you tried to rule out the possibility I was somehow laying the groundwork for future violence or justifying past violence. I am offended by the thought and disturbed by the fact that a Nationalist seemingly can’t express their opinion without being suspected of plotting a return to war.

    As for ‘no implication at all’ on your part I have little time for a word game on this sort of subject. Say what you mean rather than being so oblique in your phrasing I had to ask you what you meant.

    Now that that is done, you still haven’t provided me with any counter to my conclusion that Northern Ireland is an ongoing disaster that is beyond rescue.

  • On the fence!

    OK, we’ll deal with the easy part first then.

    Do you support republican violence in any way, immediate past (say 60’s onwards), present, or future?

    Is that plain enough for you?

  • Obelisk

    It is. The answer is no, of course not, and I sincerely hope you feel a measure of shame for having asked it.

  • AntrimGael

    Protest at what, my direct honesty? Should I apologise for sticking two fingers up in frustration at those who will not embrace equality and who don’t see me as worthy of parity of esteem? Should I continue to accept this Unionist supremacist mindset that will not countenance any recognition of the 900,000 people who see themselves as Irish? Should I just shut up and continue to curry my yogurt? The dam of Nationalist tolerance and turning the other cheek is creaking.

  • On the fence!

    Why should I????? You were complaining about word games so I thought you wanted a direct question.

    Besides it’s not like there’s no support for it. Have you actually read all of this thread?, there’s some pretty unpleasant stuff on it from plainly unpleasant people. How do I know who or what I’m dealing with without asking if you can’t take a hint and clarify.

    And again, to clarify, I NEVER implied that you did support it.

    Go back and read the posts if you don’t believe me.

  • file

    Keep imagining. Most people of Chinese descent in this place do not speak what you call Mandarin. Do some linguistic research.

  • AntrimGael

    Where exactly do I suggest that Nationalists become the pale imitators of Unionists? Supremacy is NOT in the Nationalist DNA. I will happily live and share power with those who accept me on an equal basis. Sadly my community is still viewed as rebels, renegades and crocodiles by the self declared leader of Unionism. Am I angry? You bet and under no circumstances will I engage with this apartheid, bitter mindset. Is my ‘intemperate’ language annoying you? Good, now maybe you will start to realise how the Nationalist community is feeling.

  • file

    She is not the First Minister at all.

  • file

    I thought the response by Michelle O’Neill was quite like letting go of the tug of war rope. Also Adams’s ‘see you later, alligator” was quite funny.

  • file

    So did Walt (Whitman, not Disney): I contradict myself? Very well then, I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.

  • lizmcneill

    That would certainly seem to be the case going by the number of discarded alcohol containers lining the traditional routes the following day!

  • NotNowJohnny

    One would have thought that those in favour of a UI would have figured that out by now. A UI isn’t just going to come down from the clouds some day.

  • file

    actually … soggy chips are not that bad. And my Ma used to insist on driving us round to 11th night bonefires when we were young. At the local one in our mixed area, someone wondered what we were doing there as we were Catholics. My Ma’s response was priceless: “That’s my sofa you’re burning!”

  • file

    Well sure let them think that. They will then get more of a shock when the Gardaí are policing their next parade.

  • file

    Don’t be hating anything, teddybear. it is a negative emotion and doesn’t get you anywhere. Pity them if you find that easier. But hate ends up destroying the hater. ‘Haters gotta hate’ *some popstar I can’t remember*

  • file

    you’re fucked.

  • file

    So make sure that your leadership has the policy of not going back into power-sharing with the DUP. After the elections, make no proposals; just insist that the DUP have to come back first with a robust set of proposals proving their bona fides re power-sharing. And then reject them as they cannot be trusted.

  • file

    No change there then in the southern attitude.

  • file

    The best ever description of Foster came in a Guardian political sketch when she was likened to an Aerflot air stewardess.

  • file

    Never mind that, how good a hurler was he? Was he senior standard? Inter-county?

  • file

    You want me to tell you why they did NOT ensure that an irish Language Act was NOT in the PfG
    or
    You want me to tell you why they did NOT ensure that an Irish Language Act WAS in the PfG?
    You do your work on the question and i will give you an answer.

  • tmitch57

    Or some other native language of a group that predated the Algonguin or came after them.

  • Ciarán Doherty

    So much pointless arguing about the past between two groups that are, at the end of the day, both Irish and both sharing the same fate.

    Both sides can claim some historical or emotional right to this or that but at the end of the day the simple fact is that NI is neither politically nor, more importantly, economically viable – not when framed against the changes we see in Europe and the rest of the world.

    On the fence, you will have to get off the fence soon, we are entering a period of global political change that will be fast and overwhelming whether any of us like it or not. That change positions a UI as a solution to numerous practical problems facing your life in both the short and long term.

    You can either be a yet more drastically underfunded backwater of a country in which the majority, the English, are scarcely aware of your existence let alone care for your future – or an integral part of a single nation that can embrace both your heritage and mine and enjoy the economic opportunities that numerous academics have shown await a UI.

    As understandable it is that you have your emotional connection to unionism based on your upbringing but I’m sorry, the period of history we are entering will make no allowances for nostalgia on either side of this divide.

    The constitutional future not just of NI but of the entire continent of Europe will be determined over the next 10 years by cold hard economic reality.

  • Trasna

    Acceptable to whom?.

  • Katyusha

    That’s very unfair. I’ve flown with Aeroflot several times and the staff were nothing less than graceful and charming.

  • Trasna

    British colonisation has left Ireland short of several million people.

    The IRA won Ireland’sfree do. For that, I’m eternally grateful that we are not stuck under the rotten Protestant ascendancy.

  • Keep it real

    Don’t take Arlene’s bait. Fight the election focused on corruption, and there’ll be far, far fewer wagons circled. Even TUV (as one poster suggests) are rooting to get MO’N in as FM.

  • Keep it real

    “feedacroc”

    Tempted to buy a Lacoste shirt!

  • Keep it real

    That worked a charm for Brexit

  • Annie Breensson

    Gardaí policing that “next” parade will not happen for some time, perhaps never. If it does come to pass, as you suggest, there will be considerable unrest. Drumcree and Twadell are mild* examples of what can be expected unless the current superiority mindset of the LOI is altered. Ignoring the parades will do nothing to change that perspective. If the LOI’s expectations are not lowered, and the rights of nationalists recognised, before the PSNI is abolished, or merged with the Gardaí Síochána, there will be no peace to guard.

    *Mild because recent standoffs were between the LOI and the British/NornIron establishment. What would happen if they were facing forces of a hostile “foreign” state?
    Bear in mind that the UDA and UVF are armed and will continue to be armed to the teeth while “are wee country” exists (and beyond).

  • Croiteir

    For your information I voted for Brexit. And it is working out quite well. I hope that is what you mean?

  • Croiteir

    Yes you have – you broke ranks over policing, and the worst of all was Big Al who even broke ranks with the SDLP – he was SDLP to the core – when he accepted the deputy mayorship – I wonder if the soup was Campells?

  • Croiteir

    How is it plainly – he plainly isn’t.

  • Keep it real

    Thanks for your PM, Croiteir. I’m delighted Brexit is such a treat for you. Other people’s mileage may vary.

    I bet all those Bernie supporters who didn’t vote in protest are similarly ecstatic.

  • Annie Breensson

    Ahh – but would you defend their right to lock up the swings on Sundays?

  • file

    This is not a NEW version of history from Enda, it is historical fact.

  • T.E.Lawrence

    FFS don’t do that or Arlene will be claiming shares in Lacoste ?

  • file

    Are you stating openly that there is a link between the Orange Order and the UDA and UVF, or just surmising? When the Gardaí are policing Orange Order marches they will not be the forces of a hostile foreign state, they will be the forces of the state. I agree with you that in a future united Ireland there will be an undercurrent of loyalist dissidence for a while, and that it will take careful handling. But it should calm down once they find out they are still allowed to march and that they are not being discriminated against for being loyalist (although they will, like all other groups in society, be discriminated against in the job market for being thick). One step on the road to that is to make the Orange Order financially responsible now for the policing required for their marches, and to make bonefire organisers financially responsible now for the clean-up operations and the fire-fighting operations their cultural celebrations require. Stop giving them money to have bonefires and start charging them to have bonefires – it might soften their wick a bit.

  • file

    Oh do get out more.

  • file
  • Jollyraj

    You don’t think it’s shocking that this moron is saying he feels an elected politician should be shot?

  • grumpy oul man

    So the DUP are the only unionists! Not wanting to work with a group of small minded bigots who go out of their way to insult your culture is somehow supremacist!
    Right i see.
    I dont agree with his points and would be willing to worjk with the DUP as long as they learn some manners and start to act like its no longer 1690 but he is hardly being a nationlist supremacist if he was he would be calling for nationlists to ignore all unionists but hes only calling for nationlists to ignore the ones who are small minded bigots and who have stated that they will ignore our demands.
    My point about you trolling still stands i add mopery to my comment.

  • Enda

    Where is elsewhere?

  • Enda

    Your intransigence towards nationalists on this site.

  • Granni Trixie

    I understand.

  • Gopher

    Foster has sounded in control twice since Stormont went into a tail spin. Once in her speech to the empty house and the second was this one on the Irish Language. Foster ominously is finding her feet and more importantly her front foot. I wrote a piece on in reply to a review of the Party political broacasts about Foster only tackling what she can influence (The Mathieu solution) and this reinforces my belief that this will be her campaign. The maths is quite simple occupy the ground that no one else occupies and you have captured 30% of the vote right there. The reason she cannot be succesfully tackled is because no one has produced what an Irish Language Act for Northern Ireland would, one look like and two cost. As long Alliance, SDLP and UUP cannot cobble together a rational Irish Language program Arlene is simply going to continue “hooking” SF’s amorphous ideas to the boundary. Looks like Arlene has her eye in and this is going to be some innings.

  • grumpy oul man

    “Foster has sounded in control twice since Stormont went into a tail spin”
    you may well be the only person who noticed that!

    “Once in her speech to the empty house” yea great control everybody walked out, i doubt you could call a snub by everybody but your own party and speaking to empty benchs in control.

    “and the second was this one on the Irish Language.”
    a bitter little sectarian rant made in a glorified Orange lodge which caused her to be laughed at by the Shinners and and criticized by every other party!
    these are your definitions of control wow!

  • Gopher

    I believe the speech to the house was broadcasted, again that goes to what you can influence and for your second point I refer you again to the 30% plus that dont think uncosted amorphous legislation is such a good idea. Im not sure she gives a rats backside what the other parties think, they are queering each others pitch. Your response is exactly were Foster wants you to be, at the boundary looking up watching the ball go in the stands. I bet Foster wishes all her deliveries were on the SF Irish Language line and length.

  • file

    Did you see his retraction moments later when Granni scolded him? Anyway, maybe just a wee flesh wound would not do that much harm? Now I do not mean that either, but you may be already shocked and outraged at the mere joke. If so, you should get out more and see things that are really shocking and outrageous, like wee lads sniffing glue at 10 in the morning, like teenagers running riot in public parks and scaring off adults, like teenagers going out for a night dressed like prostitutes.

  • grumpy oul man

    “I believe the speech to the house was broadcasted,”
    you must explain the relevance of that !

    this control moment wasn’t that just before she lost her job as first minister, hardly control .
    this 30% have you any proof of it existing?
    No mate AR reverting to sectarian type is not control but desperation,
    it was Not a inch, themmuns and no surrender, nothing new and a admission that her back was against the wall.

  • On the fence!

    Well well, certainly doesn’t seem to take much to trigger this “justifiable anger”.

    But then we already know that about reactionary republicanism.

    Oh, and I see you’re STILL struggling with the whole nationalist/republican thing. Funny that an “intransigent” prod seems to understand it better than you.

  • On the fence!

    Are you being deliberately obtuse or……………………..?

  • Gopher

    Wel there is only 106 MLA’s against the the thousands listening to evening extra intheir cars on the way home, no brainer. Good tactic is actually have fielders on the pitch when you are bowling.

    Walkouts are a bit like miming on the Radio

    The DUP got 30% last time out all they have to do is replicate that score. Perhaps if you flesh out want type of Irish Language act you want for the couple of percent that actually speak it and the bigger number who simply want some respect for it rather than putting down slow short of a length (and substance) deliveries for Foster to hook.

  • SDLP supporter

    OK, redundant “not” excised. Apologies.

  • On the fence!

    Certainly not here.

    And I can only hope it’s not an indication of how prods would be treated should that ever be replicated across the community.

    This thread has been a serious eye-opener!

  • grumpy oul man

    “Wel there is only 90 MLA’s against the the thousands listening to evening extra intheir cars on the way home”
    LOL and those thousands didn’t hear the other parties explain why they walked out and the speaker getting roasted.
    So this new 30% is the old 30% no outreach then and by your own admission no new voters!
    mate i understand your wish to put a spin on this but seriously if Arlene was in control in any sense this election would not be happening,

  • SDLP supporter

    Don’t you worry your head, File. The SDLP wrote the book on power-sharing. It was Sinn Fein’s military wing, the Provisional IRA, which helped destroy the Stormont Executive in 1974 because it embodied power-sharing.
    I think we can all see that at St. Andrews, where DUP and Sinn Fein were prime movers, all made the basic error of pandering to the DUP’s rejection of power-sharing. Next time-and Snarling Arlene won’t be around- the DUP will have to make a formal commitment to all the principles of the Good Friday Agreement.

  • SDLP supporter

    You are one twisted creature, Croitear. Sinn Fein followed the SDLP’s lead on policing every step of the way and were happy to jump when the SDLP took all the risks.

    Remember all the bluster of Gerry Kelly, about Special Branch, which was all hot air? One reliable rule of thumb in the North’s politics is that the best indicator of Sinn Fein policy tomorrow is SDLP’s policy today.

  • file

    Well done: now here is your answer. Sinn Féin have not been completely supportive of the Irish Language in all instances since they got into power. They were, for example and as far as I know, complicit in the vote to remove funding from the Irish language national paper that used to be based in Belfast. They did secure funding in a side deal for the Irish language broadcast fund but their commitment to an Irish Language Act (not that I agree with an Irish language Act) is dodgy to say the least.

  • file

    Je Suis un Crocodile T-Shirts on sale now in Castle Street (if not, they should be).

  • file

    Indeed. i think the actual wording was something like what people imagine an Aeroflot air stewardess would look like.

  • file

    And there was me (and many others) thinking that it was the great Loyalists Workers Strike that brought down power sharing in 1974. Are you sure of your rewritten history here?

  • SeaanUiNeill

    Thank you file, that’s my understanding of the realities also.

  • Jag

    In fairness, if you just had a dozen chamberpots emptied on your head as you canvassed on the doorstep, and were chased down the road to the roar of “RHI”, wishing you had the speed of a gazelle, you’d be a wee bit cranky as well, and lash out at anything, especially crocodiles.

  • Fear Éireannach
  • Enda

    I’m well placed to know that whole Nationalist/Republican thing better than you my good fellow.

  • Alan N/Ards

    Hi Ian

    I’m still undecided as to how I’ll vote in March. But, you can take it as read that I’ll not be voting DUP or SF. At the last Assembly election I gave my first preference to Mike Nesbitt (UUP) who I believe genuinely wants to move his party forward and Joe Boyle( SDLP) second. I actually can’t remember the rest of the list but SF/DUP didn’t get a preference. I think that it will be even harder for the SDLP to win a seat in Strangford now that it’s down to five seats (which is a shame).

    At the last Westminster election I gave my vote to the SDLP. I did this because Joe Boyle is a decent guy and I believe that they are a party that is prepared to compromise for the good of the people. The UUP candidate (who btw was the only candidate who called at my door) didn’t really impress me and I knew little about him

    It is a shame that the pro union side (I prefer this term as the DUP have made me ashamed to called myself unionist) does not have a party similar to the SDLP. If I was a nationalist I would have joined the SDLP a long time ago. But, I’m not. So I will have to struggle on giving my vote who I believe deserves it (not on Orange and Green Issues) if they are prepared to compromise for the common good of ALL the people.

  • SeaanUiNeill

    I know this story has been going the rounds for some time now, SDLPs, but I wonder if his cousin’s involvement as a language activist has somehow “morphed” into a retrospectively perceived family thing? Carson’s cousin Máire de Buitléir was of course a most active Irish Irelander:

    http://www.worldcat.org/title/

    I’d written about this at length in post ten days ago on another Slugger thread

  • Am Ghobsmacht

    Brilliant! I just saw that this very minute. Yet more Lundy’s for the DUP to be aware of…

  • Fear Éireannach

    The PSNI aren’t perfect, but the Patton settlement had a lot of ideas that should have been also required of local councils and other public bodies, e.g. fly a flag with a logo and nothing else.

  • Obelisk

    The fact that you made the leap from Nationalist expressing opinion to potential terrorist sympathizer I would hope. I guess not. My intent in asking you to clarify what you were dancing around was also to provide you with an opportunity to rethink exactly what you were asking and rephrase it. One you did not avail of.

    This discussion has no further merit, my opinions are my opinions and not a license for violence whatever you may think.

  • grumpy oul man

    It now seems that the DUP don’t consider themselves bound by the St Andrews agreement despite agreeing to it.

    Nelson was on the Nolan show today telling us that St Andrews didn’t apply to them, how do you deal with people who wont keep their word.

  • Croiteir

    What is twisted about the truth, unless the twisting to ignore or forget it and present an alternative truth becomes unstuck. I see you have not addressed the two issues I presented, which I take as acceptance.

    You then try to deflect by pointing to Gerry Kelly and the special branch but fail to say what your point actually is.

    As for Sinn Fein following the SDLP, the blind leading the blind, but remember, when it comes to caving into the British and unionism, the SDLP are always prepared to jump first. amazing that you can twist that into something to be proud about.

  • Gopher

    No spin, just slow, short pitched deliveries which Foster has no trouble dispatching. Perhaps someone should suggest to Gerry that he should let someone else have a bowl, Incidently with regards Irish that’s a poor choice of skipper as he is just like those spoilt brats in school who just want to bowl forever no matter how bad they are. Its not as if Irish is Gerry’s ball or is it? The way Gerry bowls Foster can only quote Sir Viv “You know what it looks like, go fetch” as another one goes out of the ground. It’s getting that bad she will probably take the helmet off and put a floppy sun hat on in the leaders debate.

  • Katyusha

    I would very much doubt that, Teddy. Members of the DUP have been very keen in the past to show off their complete contempt for the language whenever possible. They have to be more tactful now, is all, as much of NI has no truck with their sectarian reflexes.

    As objecting to anything which comes from SF, there’s no doubt there is truth in that but we’ll never get anything done if our parties refuse to work with their partners just because they don’t like each other. It’s pointless. The decision to reject naming City of Derry airport after Amelia Earhart is one that has stuck with me. Brilliant idea. Not contentious in any way. Costs next to nothing and superb for promotion. Can’t agree to it because it was the Shinners’ idea.

  • grumpy oul man

    Your really labouring the cricket thing. I would love to play along but i was a hurler and cricket always seem like a game for Irish masochist invented by English sadists.
    The problem that Arlene completely mishandled setting up RHI and completely mishandled things when the stuff hit the fan
    She was arogant enough to think that she could bluff it out and was completely wrong.
    This resulted in the DFM resigning and forcing a election.
    She has so little control that Mr Bell is still a member of her party but has announced he is standing as a independant against the party (leadership or what) now she has been forced to play the old fear card to distract people away from her and her parties incompetence in office.
    Some of course have fallen for this (you being a perfect example) but a awful lot of people see her tactics for what they are.
    We will kbow after the election if her use of dead cat politics has worked but we already know that she has went out of her way to insult those she will have to work with regardless of that result (she has insulted just about everybody) and she has proved that the DUP cannot be trusted to keep its word.
    The lady has made a complete hash of things .

  • Annie Breensson

    In response to your “Are you stating openly that there is a link between the Orange Order and the UDA and UVF, or just surmising?” let me refer you to Wikipedia

    Did you not notice that “foreign” was quoted in my previous post? My keyboard doesn’t support air-quotes.

    I agree with your suggestions that parades and bonfires should not be subsidised from public funds. Perhaps the organisers should have to lodge (ahem) a substantial sum to cover policing, fire-service, ambulance and clean-up costs before the event.

  • Gopher

    I’m not sure reading from the Connelly house hyme sheet will defeat Foster and I think she is quite happy SF are leading Alliance, SDLP and UUP by the nose especially on the Irish Language. A free hit. Like I said a week ago SF will have taken over the mantle of leader of the opposition. I’m sure she would declare if she was not starting to warm to this campaign.

  • file

    I have given up wikipedia for pre-Lent – I prefer facts or honest opinions. And bonefires were always called bone fires down my way, not the sanitised bonfires pronunciation. What about up your way? Bone fires is closer also to the original Irish ‘tine cnámh = lit, fire of bones.

  • grumpy oul man

    I notice like Arlene you are avoiding the RHI thing and pushing dead cat politics.
    A lot of people are not going to forget the RHI thing all arlene has is project fear all you have is a blind hope that everyine will play her game.
    But you are aware (or maybe not) that she his to come to a deal with nationlists before she can go bsck to her office.
    That is of course if she is leader of the DUP after the vote or even a MLA.

  • Annie Breensson

    Tine cnámh as Bearla was bone fire

  • Annie Breensson

    You deal with them at arms length. Hence the snap election followed by demands for conditions they will be unable to satisfy.

  • Katyusha

    You make a critical mistake, Gopher, but a very basic one. SF’s objective in any election is not to defeat the DUP. It’s to defeat the SDLP. And PBP, dissident republicanism and nationalist apathy in general.

    The only people who can defeat the DUP are the DUP themselves, and to give them their due, they’re doing an absolutely stellar job of it. Arlene has managed to lead her party out of government, herself out of the First Minister’s position, and her province down the toilet, or would that be up the chimney?

    If she turns up again expecting to continue as you were, it is the end of power-hungry, quite simply. I’m sure in the breif interregnum of direct rule we can persuade the UK government to follow through on its commitment to introducing an Irish language act (necessary as the DUP no longer appear to recognise the St.Andrew’s agreement) as well as the standardisation of marriage law across the UK before whatever future arrangement we’re going to work with is established.

    Arlene’s behaviour at the moment is absolute mana for Sinn Féin, and she seems totally unaware of it.

  • file

    I know … that is why I reject the ‘bonfire’ spelling and pronunciation.