The Flag Dispute – Anatomy of a Protest seminar – what, who, where, how and why? +audio +video

The researchers from QUB’s Institute for the Study of Conflict Transformation and Social Justice behind The Flag Dispute: Anatomy of a Protest report [PDF] held a seminar in Queen’s University this morning. [Gladys Ganiel blogged in detail about the report when it was published in December.]

Two of the six researchers behind the report introduced the main findings.

Flag Dispute seminar 3x2Paul Nolan quickly revisited the background to the protest (the “archaeology”). The PSNI gave researchers open access to operational logs from the flag protests. Paul pointed to the scale of the protests, at their height smaller than protests during the Troubles, but very large for peace-time. A special Police Ombudsman team poured through YouTube clips from flag protests but didn’t find examples of police brutality that were alleged elsewhere.

Katy Hayward pointed to the changing dynamic on the Belfast City Council. She highlighted the action of flag provocateurs who travelled around “seats of protest”, the role of women who were to the forefront in many protests, and the absence of paramilitaries leading protests.

Asked why people were protesting, many different answers were given: cultural alienation, “stamping out Alliance”, as well as “drawing a line in the sand” with an implicit threat if the line was crossed). There wasn’t one single collective reason. This also translated into protesters not being easily manipulated or blindly following “orders” … which caused problems for the police.

The role of social media was examined. There was evidence of its use to rally support amongst pre-existing (real-life) networks, but the report concluded that social media diluted the protests with “too many new ideas” and wasn’t used around serious disorder.

A crucial conclusion of the report questions the value of single identity work, calling for “dialogue not twin monologues”.

Peter Osborne responded to the report and called for strategic community leadership rather than the tactical approaches that had been taken during the protests. He also referred to a need to “move away sectional language” and approaches and to reprioritise relationship building. The police needed to be respected, but the police also needed to earn trust. Finally, he concluded that “nobody must be left behind in detached communities”.

Sam “Chalky” White from the UPRG spoke of his involvement with Charter NI, working across communities in East Belfast with vulnerable working class young people. He discussed that vulnerable young people were drawn into protests and the attempts made to stop them. Sam referred to daily face-to-face conversations and meetings across interfaces and discounted perceptions that community relations bad broken down.

Superintendent Ken Pennington was the Chief Inspector in charge of Operations Belfast during the flag dispute and offered his personal perspective. He reminded the seminar audience that the PSNI is required to facilitate protest as well as a positive obligation to protect life. He offered a defence to the accusation or perception of differential policing by outlining different situations (blocking a hospital entrance different to a major thoroughfare/motorway or protesting near an interface).

In the subsequent Q&A, audience members questioned the lack of flag protesters on the panel. Dominic Bryan responded that while not all protesters could be interviewed, the report should be judged against whether the range of flag protestor opinion was represented in the report. [Around 25 flag protesters were interviewed by Katy Radford.] A rather mellow Jamie Bryson welcomed the report though admitted that he didn’t agree with all its findings.

Overall it was a subdued seminar, with the fully-booked-out-in-advance attendance badly disrupted by the snow and perhaps the closure of Botanic Avenue and Botanic Station.

The report’s inclusion of data on protests, arrests, complaints, convictions and sentences as well as the rich quotes from those interviewed, give it longevity and authority even if some of the narrative, conclusions and recommendations will remain disputed (particularly the role of the leaflet).

The unasked question this morning was “could it happen again”?

With the new councils coming to power on 1 April in the middle of an election campaign, and the opportunity to revisit flag protocols and cultural displays in council facilities, tensions could be high in the run up to this summer. Strategic leadership may be needed, yet few would predict that it would be found in abundance.

With key issues affecting loyalist (and other) working class communities not addressed – including but not limited to educational underachievement – loyalist voices not being heard any louder than before the flag dispute began.

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  • $136050377

    1,000 people a week leave the Wee 6.
    Most of those have at least got A levels or even University degrees.
    As long as the bright sparks are leaving and the Fleggers are staying..that is the nub of the problem.
    Kick out 1000 Fleggers per month.And give jobs to the other 1,000 so they don’t have to leave.
    Isn’t the SNP building new concil housing.
    Sign up the fleggers for these gaffs.

    Problem solved.

  • $136050377

    1,000 month. a typo.

  • Niall Chapman

    Between 2011-2015, 6 of my friends left the North and moved to Catalunya, some have moved on elsewhere but none will be moving back to “the wee 6” unless family obligation dictates otherwise.
    Political division will always be a part of the society, but it would be bearable if the mouth breathers (republican and loyalist) would keep the parades to a minimum and stop crying about a piece of coloured cloth

  • Jag

    Would it be fair to say your friends were exclusively or predominantly Protestant? Because that is the demographic trend, Protestants are dying earlier, emigrating more and having smaller families. More Catholics are making it to third level education, but disproportionately compared with Protestants, they seem to be remaining in Northern Ireland and carving out a life and career here.

  • Niall Chapman

    Sorry to disappoint but the ratio was 3:3 or 1:1 whichever you prefer

  • Jag

    No disappointment at all, always interesting to see how personal experience matches cold statistics. We do hear relatively little about Catholic disenchantment with political leadership.

  • Sir Rantsalot

    Luckily the population is being replenished by hot eastern European wimmin .

  • Niall Chapman

    I think if the DUP continue to be the major force of unionism, especially given their staunch religious ideology then most young Nationalists (mostly unreligious) are happy to keep Sinn Fein in office as a counter balance

  • carl marks

    Unfortainly SF believe this also, the recent election pamphlet show Gerry Kelly besuited and business like while Dodds looks worried dressed in his sash and the Fleg in the background demonstrates that they intend to tap into the broad feeling of nationalist revulsion at the behaviour of the OO and the DUP in north belfast.
    the battle for nationalist votes in north Belfast is between SF and the SDLP (although a pleasant surprise would be Alliance making a impact in the area) the Dissidents are reeling from the damage done to them by the PSNI and to busy splitting and feuding to present anything approaching a political challenge to anybody.
    A unionist unity candidate, would be just Nigel rebranded (no way would the DUP consider anybody else for the seat him being deputy leader and all) and to be honest i don’t see the UUP,TUV, PUP etc saluting that one when it’s run up the flagpole

  • kalista63

    Did you feel this way when unionism had control in BCC and used the place to promote their own views on everything from homosexuality to all Ireland agreements?

    As for this confusing of nationalism, as a culture and identity, Vs actual wanting a u invited Ireland her and now, unionism needs to sort it’s head out. Most certainly, the worst elements of unionism and a.l of Loyalism had best take no comfort in the seeming paradox.