Robinson talks: “Gerry (Adams) will take the decision on what we can go in with…”

I admit I don’t have a reliable take on what’s going on with these Robinson talks, but I was struck by the incongruity of the concern from a Sinn Fein source who…

…indicated that the party was likely to attend any talks but that it would seek to widen the agenda and was wary of Mr Robinson’s stated intention of including smaller parties in the discussions.

“Our concern is that Robinson is laying the ground work for bringing in the Orange Order and the PUP and the UDA and all the rest of it into these talks. This is a disparate group of people many of whom are only interested in wrecking things,” he stated.

“We will put on the table the things which we think are important at the time. Gerry (Adams) will take the decision on what we can go with in consultation with other members of the leadership and the party in general.”

Ah… So they’ll be bypassing Martin again and knocking it upstairs (or down to Dublin?) to Gerry and the AC, (now where have I heard that before?)…

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  • Morpheus

    “…Gerry (Adams) will take the decision on what we can go with in consultation with other members of the leadership and the party in general.” said a mysterious SF source. Pretty sure that includes Marty

  • carl marks

    Terrible, imagine asking their leadership to lead, something unionists would never do!

  • chrisjones2

    Whats you evidence for being sure?

    And why is there an AC when there’s supposed to be no Army

  • chrisjones2

    Yes but who is their leadership. It seems to extend way beyond the front men and weemin who get elected

  • Morpheus

    No you are absolutely right, SF will have a meeting of it’s leadership without Martin McGuinness and

    http://www.pigsmightfly.info/Usable%20Photos/Icons%20and%20logos/Pig%20in%20sky%20right.jpg

    Pretty sure AC stand for Ard Chomhairle by the way (and guess who is listed as a member – whoda thunk it eh?)

  • gunterprien

    LOL. Brilliant. Further comment is redundant.

  • sean treacy

    Mick asks us where we have heard that before and then directs us to Mick himself saying it

  • Zeno1

    Marty obviously is not allowed to take decisions on his own. Sinn Fein in the North aren’t allowed to take decisions on their own. It must be galling for them after all those years of building the party to be told you have to get permission from the new kids in Dublin.

  • Tacapall

    “indicated that the party was likely to attend any talks but that it would seek to widen the agenda”

    Haass proposals, Irish language act, North South bodies, Human Rights act, 2016 border poll, nationalism can only go forward, there is no turning back the clock to pre GFA politics there’s no more opportunities for building impasses to create concessions.

    “So they’ll be bypassing Martin again and knocking it upstairs (or down to Dublin?) to Gerry and the AC”

    Thats the way republicans do negotiating Mick another De Valera, Collins double act.

  • Dec

    I’ll see that and raise you a Mervyn Gibson.

  • Arthur Renfrew

    Slugger Consultant Team consult Slugger Consultant Team’s only consultant.

  • chrisjones2

    Ah but Mervyn and Peter get ‘Guidance from above’

  • chrisjones2

    Sill me > Theres me thinking it was Army Council

    Ah for the old days

  • Morpheus

    Their guidance in Haass came from Jamie Bryson and Willie Tazer no less

  • Morpheus

    Good to know where your mind is at though

  • Mister_Joe

    Hard to know what game Robinson is trying to play. If he insists that an unelected body such as the OO must take part in a new overall agreement re the Assembly, then there will obviously be no talks, nor should there be.

  • Morpheus

    55% of his councillors and 50% of his MLAs are already OO despite less than 2% of the population being members Joe. That’s why he gets snapped back into line when he goes on a ‘Hug a Catholic’ initiative

  • Robin Keogh

    Its perfectly natural for the leader of a party to take the helm when it comes to discussions and negotiations with others regardless of topic. Adams is the SF leader so naturally he will do the leading. The Office of First and Deputy first minister is second to the natio nal parliament in Dublin from a SF perspective.

  • streetlegal

    Sinn Fein don’t have any real interest in Robinson’s proposal of talks. But they will be happy to call the DUP bluff – as both parties know that such talks would go nowhere. So over the next few months we can expect to see a lot of posturing and media analysis around the modalities of talks about talks. Sounds familiar – anyone remember Richard Haass – autumn 2013?

  • Barneyt

    If Sinn Fein did not collectively agree, or indeed defer to their leader, they would cease to be an all Ireland party and Martin and NI operating autonomously would be counter productive with regard to their overall aim. It is entirely reasonable that matters concerning any aspect of SF’s political ambitions on this island are discussed and steered by SF leadership. Clearly they have got to employ “joindieupness” thinking on all matters on the island and letting the party leader make a decision (if indeed that is the case)is not really that revolutionary. There is a suggestion here that as Martin is participating in the NI executive (government), he has accepted partition and by extension, partition of his own party? Hardly.