A quick backward glance on European History…

At a time when politics and economics in Europe is busting open day by day, it’s probably as well to remember Europe didn’t always look the way it does today… UPdate: Thanks to salgado for the replacements…


  • salgado

    Is that really from the Roman Empire? It has got the HRE so it must be 800AD at least.

    Here’s a different version, which is a bit slower but has dates in the top left and major events in the bottom left of the screen.

    (I’m afraid I don’t know how to post links properly!)

  • salgado

    I suppose you could argue that the Byzantine Empire (or the Holy Roman Empire) was a continuation, but I’ve never particularly liked that argument.

    The link seemed to work after all. I thought I might need some sort of code along with it.

  • Hardly quick, but certainly compressed. Looks like this was made using Centennia – useful app with a less than useful navigation interface…

  • Alias

    It’s also worth remembering that there are others that covert your sovereignty and territory; and if you don’t hang onto it, you’ll end up as a quick colour change on the map.

    As Reagan said, freedom is only ever one generation away from being lost.

    Vote No!

  • Drumlins Rock

    Mick, third time I have watched it today, tells an amazing story, the ebbs and flows of empire, and those HRE states that survived independant so long. Locally seeing the ebbs and flows in Ireland show it was a long story, and actually having NE Ireland “Scottish” for several periods puts another perspective that even I never really considered.

    Would I be right in saying England is probably the most constant of all states? (the “Orange” invasion looks more dramatic than the reality) Denmark and Switzreland seem to manage quite well too. Germany is the most confusing.

  • DR,

    Yes, England is one of the more stable polities in Europe – which goes a long way to explaining euroskepticism. The folk memory of Europe’s constantly shifting borders and wars is quite different from those whose homes were directly affected.

  • Pity something similar didn’t come with Norman Davies’s Vanished Kingdoms: the History of Half-Forgotten Europe. Terrific book (as recommended here by Dewi); but … help me here, otherwise I’ll need to refer to the text … where/what exactly is “Sabaudia”? And why were Petronilla of Aragon and Rámon Berenguer IV so important?

  • salgado

    DR – there was a rather good BBC radio programme on the unification of Germany recently, but it only really scratches the surface.

  • Tonight’s homework

    The aims of Soviet Foreign policy throughout the 20th century were identical only each Soviet leader pursued them using different methods. Evaluate.

    Albeit it was only yesterday someone close to me cannot remember the exact wording of the 2012 CCEA A2 A level component on “The clash of ideologies in 20th Century Europe”.

  • articles @ 6:21 pm:

    A good A-level question (like those at Oxbridge interviews) has a two-tier trigger mechanism: pull the trigger all the way, win the cigar.

    But that one is an absolute humdinger: presumably one gets the A* for subtitling an answer: “Ideology versus National Interest”.

    And all in about 45 minutes?

  • Malcolm Redfellow

    1hr 15 mins was the alloted time.

    A beautifully constructed nutshell but could an alternative Marxist Leninist line be Ideology(ie the export of Marxist-Leninism) is synonomous with national interest but on occasion national interest has to be prioritised.

  • ayeYerMa

    “This video is no longer available due to a Copyright Claim by Centennia Software (HistoricalAtlas.com)”

  • salgado
  • antamadan

    The videos are absolutely brilliant. Folks the first link no longer works, but salgado’s links do for now.

  • Greenflag

    These are just maps -lines on a map that show one king/country/empire /province /region gobbing up another or being regobbled in turn .What would bring these lines on the map to ‘life ‘ would be a running total on the right or left margins of said maps of the numbers killed , combatants and non combatants during the ‘millenium . With the Thirty Years War (of religion ) in Central Europe accounting for some 7 million and WWI some 28 million and WW2 some 50 million and the USSR some 60 million (est) the sum total of those who were dispatched by tyrants , dictators , degenerate monarchs and ideologically driven crazy freaks would probably amount to some 250 million plus .

    So was it all worth it ?

    Our ‘elites’ be they political , economic , military or religious thought so at the time and even after the millions had been ‘sacrificed’ and they continue to see so . World War 1 resulted form not just imperial rivalry but from dysfunctional failures in the international diplomatic system of the time .

    In 2012 we are staring down the face of another failure in the international financial system following on from that of 2007/2008 and still the politicians equivocate on essential reforms and the banksters have learnt nothing and care even less for the taxpayers of the various countries they have looted and pillaged from this past decade!