Memo to BBC: The NI Executive voted these measures through

Why are the BBC busying themselves counting the number of MLAs turning up for work today?  Don’t they know the Northern Ireland Executive voted in favour of the blanket increase of 3.2 per cent in public-sector pension contributions?

Admittedly they did so behind closed doors, and didn’t tell anyone at the time.

[Some parties don’t seem to remember either – Ed]  Some parties have still to tell the public how their ministers voted at the time…

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  • Framer

    The Sinn Fein MLAs should picket the SF Ministers who voted for the cuts.

  • FuturePhysicist

    Should the civil servants implementing the cuts picket themselves too?

  • Old Mortality

    Now that the Chancellor is preparing the way for regional pay bargaining in the public sector, they must already be squirming at the prospect of having to impose pay reductions.

  • OneNI

    Executive Ministers delighted that evil Tories have given only 1% pay increase to public sector.
    It means they can blame the Tories for the pay award while posing for photos when opening new infrastructure investment – paid for by restricting public sector pay!

    I note UTV also dont appear to have realised that SF voted for the pension deal too

  • Just back from a picket line……where an Executive Minister turned up to support the strikers.

  • OneNI

    local polticos still largely talking with forked tongues.

    Only Irwin Armstrong is being realistic and honest:
    http://www.niconservatives.com/news/autumn-statement-offers-great-deal-northern-ireland

  • Mick Fealty

    Well, he can. He’s not in the Executive. Name names FJH?

  • raftonpounder

    Will the 1% public sector pay freeze apply to MLA salaries and special advisers??

    Carál Ní Chuilín and Paul and Alex Maskey were at City Hall.

  • FuturePhysicist

    So Alex Atwood (assumption) is not in the Executive?

    As for OneNI’s statement, this is utter rubbish the key ingredient of new enterprise being hindered by youth unemployment, and the insistence that more and more young people must start up their own businesses after struggling to pay off university debts, frankly it’s not worth making the effort. Within a generation the new bridges and other capital investments will be “monuments to middle-aged mediocrity”, believing it the Zeitgeist of market-forces, their own bad investments have been insured by the state, and they still bleed more sponging corporate welfare for their leather factories and hedge funds.

    AND he credits the UK government for the interest rate, surely that’s still the Bank of England’s department. Amateur mistake Irwin.

  • Ah all my exclusives are first revealed in another place 🙂

  • FuturePhysicist

    Well we know Alex Atwood and Carál were attending these marches, I would assume that O’Neill and O’Dowd would be attending some of these marches.

  • Chris Donnelly

    I saw the SDLP’s Brian Heading and Sinn Fein’s Jim McVeigh at the well attended Belfast rally. Quite sure there were many more politicians there but hard to spot with all the flags, banners…and a large purple UNISON balloon.

    I did hear one politician hang up on Talkback when challenged by a caller- something tying in neatly with what Finola Meredith has to say in today’sTele regarding the arrogance of some politicians here when dealing with the public and media.

  • andnowwhat

    And Nesbitt crossed the line. More than one actually.

    Just listen to this @ 23.30.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b017k4d1

  • iluvni

    Good to see McDonnell, Ritchie and Durkan crossing picket lines to go to work in London today. Well done to them.

  • andnowwhat

    Short_strand, on Twitter, said that Conal crossed a line too.

  • Old Mortality

    Surely no true Irish republican should recognize such a British dispute or haven’t they realised that it’s going on on ‘the mainland’ as well?

  • Little James

    For all the faults of the DUP, at least they are consistent, they voted to raise pension contributions and have said they disagree with the strikes, Sinn Fein on the other hand also voted to raise pension contributions, in the same clandestine meeting, yet seem to be showing “solidarity” with the strikers. Why is the local media and the bbc and UTV in particular not asking questions and highlighting the hypocrisy of this stance?

  • Cynic2

    “I am marching in solidarity with the workers who my Ministerial colleagues have just shafted by voting through their pension cuts”

  • emanonon

    Future Phsyicist

    I’m afraid your knowledge of economics is not up to the mark. The Bank of England does not have any involvement in the rate at which the UK borrows money, that is up to the international markets to decide.

    Very amateur mistake indeed.

  • Pete,

    As you are noting the contradictions with public presentation over actual actions, I’ve also highlighted Conall McDevitt’s seeming dishonesty over this topic on Hearts of Oak and Steel

  • OneNI

    Mick:
    ‘Well, he can. He’s not in the Executive’
    Are you suggesting that dishonesty is a prerequisite for sitting on the Executive?
    The Executive voted to implement these measures. Any Minister who does not wish to support them can resign. In reality they don’t feel THAT strongly about it.

    The Executive could have voted against them and argued for local control over this issue. This would then require them to spell out which schools and hospitals they would cut to fund the pensions.
    There is nothing worse than hypocritical politicians.

    Likewise Dodds argues against the Winter Fuel Allowance cut – the Executive could introduce their own supplement – but again he would have to spell out how he would pay for it.
    Also SDLP and others plead special circumstances on Welfare Reform – they have the power to introduce different measures than IDS is proposing – but again they will have to explain how they will find the revenue to pay for it. In reality they will whinge and blame someelse (‘evil Tories made me do it’ – pathetic)

    Remember Northern Ireland got a more generous public spending settlement than anywhere else in the UK.

    To be fair to DUP with the odd exception they are being more honest with people esp public sector pensions than the other parties – they just need to reign in the populist tendencies of Old Lefties like Dodds.

    Remember this Government has a national mandate to cut the deficit. The Conservatives and Liberal Democrats won the support of the majority of the population at the General Election on a deficit cutting platform. This included well over 100,000 votes in NI

    If people want an alternative there is the Labour Party. Unfortunately they do not seek a mandate here yet. But let us not pretend that the local parties – who command less than 0.5% of the vote each – have any coherent policy platform on national – UK wide – policy issues.

    UK economic policy, public spending policy and welfare are UK issues and the local parties need to recognise that and concentrate on doing the job they were elected to do – run the local administration. Something they are doing VERY badly.

    If people do not like this Westminster administration they should join the Labour Party not indulge themselves in populist whinging on the sidelines in the local parties

  • Cynic2

    “Are you suggesting that dishonesty is a prerequisite for sitting on the Executive?”

    I am

  • FuturePhysicist

    Future Phsyicist

    I’m afraid your knowledge of economics is not up to the mark. The Bank of England does not have any involvement in the rate at which the UK borrows money, that is up to the international markets to decide.

    Very amateur mistake indeed.
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    It still shows my point, Osbourne has even less control and should not be gratified for any interest rate change.

  • emanonon

    Future Physicist

    You still don’t understand, the reason why the UK borrowing rate is low is due to the policies of Osborne and the coalition.

    It would be useful if you understood the subject before commenting.

  • FuturePhysicist

    Future Physicist

    You still don’t understand, the reason why the UK borrowing rate is low is due to the policies of Osborne and the coalition.

    It would be useful if you understood the subject before commenting
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    He understands how to print money, Bravo. Brains of Britian that one, Move over Hawking.

  • Little James

    I noticed on the Twitter feed of Paul Maskey someone posted a link to the clandestine vote by SF/DUP voting to increase pension contributions saying as a SF they were “disappointed after reading this”.

    Maskey replied “check out our statements on this”, so words speak louder than actions in his world.

  • Little James

    Edit – should have said “as a SF voter”.