“They’ve hit homes with paint bombs, pipe bombs and petrol bombs.”

According to a BBC report, a large group of masked men have attacked a number of houses in east Belfast’s Short Strand area.  From the BBC report

Lord Mayor of Belfast Niall O Donnghaile, a Sinn Fein councillor for the area, was at the scene.

He told the BBC that 60-100 masked men fully dressed in camouflage gear have been attacking homes.

And from the same report

Police are at the scene and community and youth workers have been trying to defuse the situation.

“It’s a tense and dangerous situation,” Mr O Donnghaile said.

“They’ve hit homes with paint bombs, pipe bombs and petrol bombs.

“A pipe bomb-type device has gone off. There’s a number of Short Strand residents who are injured and a number of homes have been damaged.”

Police have confirmed that a large number of people had gathered in Bryson Street and that petrol bombs have been thrown.

Update  From a BBC report

The police have confirmed that two men were shot during trouble in east Belfast

Shots were fired by nationalist and loyalist crowds during the disturbances in the Short Strand area.

Trouble broke out between rioters at a sectarian interface on the lower Newtownards Road and Mountpottinger Road around 2100 BST on Monday.

The PSNI said some of the trouble was co-ordinated by loyalists.

And that

Police came under attack trying to restore order.

Laser pens were used to try and ‘blind’ police. One officer was treated for an eye injury in hospital.

Police said they are also investigating a report of an attempted hijacking of a bus.

The PSNI said between 400 to 500 people were involved in the disorder.

There are a couple of UTV reports.  Including this one

A number of people have reportedly been taken to hospital after masked men got involved in sectarian clashes in east Belfast.

Petrol bombs, bricks, bottles and other missiles were thrown close to the Short Stand interface on Monday night, after groups of men described as wearing balaclavas and camouflage gathered in the lower Newtownards Road area.

UTV understands a number of homes on both sides have been attacked, and that a PSNI landrover was set on fire.

There are unconfirmed reports that up to five shots have been fired from the direction of St Matthew’s Church, and that one man was being treated at a nearby ambulance station for bullet wounds to his ankle in the early hours of Tuesday morning.

Meanwhile, elsewhere in the city

A bomb has been thrown at a police car in the Andersonstown Road area of west Belfast during an early morning security alert.

Officers were responding to reports of a suspicious vehicle in the early hours of Tuesday morning when an explosive device was thrown at the PSNI car.

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  • galloglaigh

    I don’t seem to recall the GAA trampling through Protestant estates, displaying republican flags, and wearing republican uniforms. Now maybe I’m wrong, but I’m sure you will correct me.

    The fact of the matter remains: The Orange Order continues to use loyalism as its muscle. It has done this for over 100 years. Loyalism continues to take its gripe against the failure of unionism, out on Catholic pensioners and children. They have been doing that for over 100 years.

    It is loyalism and Orangeism that needs to change. They need to embrace the future, to help build a better future for all our children. Not just the sash bearing, Unionjack waving, kerb painting variety.

    Wake up loyalism and smell the coffee.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Limerick:

    The fact is that no such majority will come about in the forseeable future. Therefore republican agitation for a united Ireland is pointless, destructive and utterly counterproductive.

    Provided the law is upheld, people are free to put forward whatever constitutional proposals they like. Stop being a bigot and accept that people have the right to different opinions than you have. If you can’t tolerate that, it is you who has the problem.

    “I guess you’d be happy enough to support a hunger strike march down the Shankill Road then.”
    Of course I wouldn’t. But then the UVF are not asking to have a march down the Falls Road. Try to get a bit of perspective.

    OK then. You would have no problem with a march by a bunch of Celtic supporters waving tricolours down the Shankill road then ? You reckon the community there would allow that march to pass through peacefully ? After all, it is just a bunch of non-paramilitary people having a parade.

  • Limerick

    “It is loyalism and Orangeism that needs to change. They need to embrace the future, to help build a better future for all our children. Not just the sash bearing, Unionjack waving, kerb painting variety.”

    It is all the fault of themmuns and it is themmuns who need to change.

  • Limerick

    “Provided the law is upheld, people are free to put forward whatever constitutional proposals they like. Stop being a bigot and accept that people have the right to different opinions than you have. If you can’t tolerate that, it is you who has the problem.”

    Comrade,

    Of course people have the right to different opinions. I don’t see anything bigoted in pointing out the fact that there is not going to be a united Ireland in the forseeable future, and that agitating for one is both pointless and utterly counterproductive.

    Neither do I see anything bigoted in suggesting that Northern Ireland would be a much more happy and peaceful place if people were not trying to destroy it. The gigantic leap of being capable of calling the place by its proper name my be a start.

    “OK then. You would have no problem with a march by a bunch of Celtic supporters waving tricolours down the Shankill road then ? You reckon the community there would allow that march to pass through peacefully ? After all, it is just a bunch of non-paramilitary people having a parade.”

    I think that would be every bit as foolish as holding a parade of Rangers supporters waving Ulster Flags down the Shankill Road, but of course no such thing happens.

  • andnowwhat

    Funny how Bumper came on here after Dick Turpin got a red card.

    The former was identified as the same person posting on P.ie as antiHET, a member of the PUP.

    I can post a link to where HET admits to being Bumper (P.ie is offline at the moment getting an update).

    I say this so that people understand that they have been reading the thoughts of someone who, at the very least, purports to being a member of the PUP

  • andnowwhat

    I see the orange order has been raised.

    Here’s a question for nationalists/republicans, of which I am one; would you have a problem if the order marched as an exclusively protestant, culturally unionist organisation much in the way the Hibs do but, obviously, in a mirror form?

    I, like the people of Rossnowlagh, would not. The problem is that they don’t do that.

    There is no point in them looking to us until they have looked at themselves. They are most welcome to their culture. What they are not welcome to is imposing it on us all.

  • Limerick

    andnowhat,

    Does that mean that we should have strict segregation of cultures then?

  • andnowwhat

    No. It means that some people practice what they wish so long as it is not an imposition on others.

    There’s an innate need for people (mostly men) to form associations, football clubs, mens only clubs or whatever, let them go for it so long as that is all it amounts too

  • Limerick

    “No. It means that some people practice what they wish so long as it is not an imposition on others.”

    andnowhat,

    So people who listen to Radio Ulster should not have the Irish language imposed on them every evening?

  • andnowwhat

    Is there only one radio station now?

    This is very bad news for Frank Mitchell.

    Have you seen the young presenters on the BBC’s Irish language and folk music programmes? Do you see any anti this our that in them? Do they have Scottish bands on? Do you know their politics for a fact?

  • andnowwhat

    BTW, the BBC also has Ulster Scots language and culture programmes.

    I couldn’t conceive of being offended by them. It is a part of the greater Irish history and culture. It’s very interesting too.

    Stephen Hall’s CD is one that I listen to more than most (Zep will always be first)

  • Zig70

    If the off button doesn’t work on the radio then pull the plug. If that didn’t work (maybe the leprechauns superglued it) and the sounds of pipes and drums was on, I’d listen for 10mins and then go for the trip.

  • Limerick

    andnowhat,

    So it is specifically Protestant/Unionist culture that want to have segregated. Fair enough. At least you are clear about that, but I don’t see how it promotes a better future for our country.

    Supremacists like yourself tend to provoke trouble with your intolerance.

  • andnowwhat

    What Limerick?

    Are you not aware that the orders separate themselves from catholics.

    That’s fair enough.

    I’m curious as hell to know what goes on in a gay sauna but I’m not allowed because I’m not gay.

    That’s fair enough to me and I’ll be buggered if I can see any issue at all about it.

  • Question for our legal eagles. If the police suspect someone of organizing mayhem for a particular place or night, can they pick that person up for questioning about a conspiracy and hold them for a few days?

  • lamhdearg

    joe, the Q is would it help.

  • Limerick

    andnowhat,

    So now you are suggesting that any cultures which are exclusive should be strictly segregated?

  • andnowwhat

    You tell me Limerick?

  • Mark

    Johnny Adair and Micky McKevitt are the only 2 paramilitaries convicted of directing terrorism ….

  • Yes, lamhdearg,

    I did wonder about that.

  • Limerick

    “You tell me Limerick?”

    andnowhat,

    Tell you what? I am not the one who is suggesting that we should employ cultural apartheid.

  • Limerick

    “Question for our legal eagles. If the police suspect someone of organizing mayhem for a particular place or night, can they pick that person up for questioning about a conspiracy and hold them for a few days?”

    Joe,

    Anything like that would have republicans jumping up and down screaming about internment. Only if it was directed at them mind.

  • andnowwhat

    Just saw something that would suggest that what Joe is asking is actually being done as I type.

    The guy they are after has been named.

  • Zig70

    Joe, didn’t they lift a load of people for the royal wedding and the Queens visit to Dublin. I remember a few odd people complaining at the time of the wedding.

  • lamhdearg

    andnowwhat,
    if the guy, is the guy, that i think is the guy, then that would not be a very clever thing to do at this time. Band parade tomorow night in east belfast, all welcome.

  • lamhdearg

    2Rs, idiot.

  • andnowwhat

    Lamhderg

    No better time if you think about it. ie. a time when sympathy for loyalists is at a low.

    I don’t think they are talking any less than a few days though.

    Sweets?

  • 20 odds bands at the parade tomorrow night….could be tense,

  • lamhdearg

    andnowwhat,
    sympathy for loyalists is always low. except from the people that loyalist care about, loyalists, the people who are criticising the actions of the east belfast uvf, are not going to care a hoot, at any time what happens to loyalists, but the people who support the actions of the east belfast uvf, would/will treat the arrests of east belfast members/leaders, with contempt, and as tempers are already up, and as i mentioned “band parade in east belfast tomorrow night all welcome” now may not be a good time.

  • lamhdearg

    M.P. bring your camera, and a portfolio of your work (the stuff the puts east belfast loyalists in a good light).

  • andnowwhat

    Lamhderg

    The guy has broken too many rules. in fact, he never got them.

    This next couple of days are going to be interesting apparently.

  • So has Ugly Doris been scooped then? Is that what you are saying andnowwhat?
    lamhdearg regardless of the timing whoever orchestrated the attack on the Short Strand needs to be scooped plain and simple. Along with all the rioters from both sides.

  • lamhdearg

    andnowwit
    my i ask where you are getting this info.

  • lamhdearg

    M.P.
    I am starting to think you do not live where you say you live, as i find it hard to believe anyone has ba**s that size.

  • cross posting lamhderg
    I might bring my camera then again i might not. I might be there then again i might not.
    I have made approaches over the years to document aspects of loyalism which to date have fallen on deaf ears but if you know someone who knows someone who knows somebody else who will guarantee my safety to document loyalism i’m more than willing to explore that……..

  • ?

  • andnowwhat

    Why didn’t loyalists take the chance that they had?

    They had the same hand reached out to them that SF had and the blessings and patrionage of even the southern government.

    I well remember the campaigns for peace in W Belfast. Could that happen in E Belfast? If not, why not?

  • lamhdearg

    M.P.
    i know nothing, and there are no guarantees in life.

  • andnowwhat

    Hi Moochin.

    Yeah Mooch.They’re composing the charges with his mucker’s help. In fairness, he’s getting off light.

    Lamhderg, I lived in E Belfast for nearly a decade, North Rd to be precise.

  • lamhdearg

    andwhatnow
    again, where are you getting this, please tell. north roads nice.

  • Of course there are no guarantees but i don’t understand why you doubt where i live and make a comment on the size of my gonads. Is ugly doris a name that must not be mentioned or something? I could of course use his real name if you want but i’ll leave it to the press to get round to naming and shaming

  • andnowwhat

    Ugly’s real name is well known and I wouldn’t wish to put Mick in an awkward position.

    Lamhderg, I’m getting this from a source who has been so bang on it’s scary

  • lamhdearg

    goodnight gents.

  • avoiding the question lamhderg? Do say hello tomorrow if you see me at the band parade

  • SK

    “Northern Ireland would be a much more happy and peaceful place if people were not trying to destroy it.”

    _

    Limerick,

    Perhaps Northern Ireland would be a much more happy and peaceful place if unionists accepted that people have a right to disagree with them?

  • Limerick

    “Limerick,

    Perhaps Northern Ireland would be a much more happy and peaceful place if unionists accepted that people have a right to disagree with them?”

    SK,

    Unionists have been fairly consistent in defending that right, so long as it does not involve illegality or violence.

  • andnowwhat
  • Limerick

    andnowhat,

    Yes it is right. Since we are now living in 2011 do you think it might be possible for you to deal with the here and now. In order to have a peaceful and prosperous future I suggest that republicans should work to improve Northern Ireland rather than consistently trying to damage it.