Irish General Election Exit Poll

For reference, rather than predictive qualities, RTÉ’s exit poll records the parties’ first preference vote in the 2011 Irish general election as follows (compared with 2007 result)  [Added Actual 2011 first preference result in bold]

Fine Gael 36.1% (27.3%)  36.1%

Labour 20.5% (10.1%)  19.4%

Fianna Fáil 15.1% (41.6%)  17.4%

Independent/Other 15.5% (9.4%)  15.2%

Sinn Féin 10.1% (6.9%)  9.9%

Greens 2.7% (4.7%)  1.8%

Adds  From the Irish Times report

The poll of 3,500 voters was carried out yesterday. The margin of error was 2.5 per cent.

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  • slappymcgroundout
  • Fianna Fail down from 41.6% to 15.1%. That is a 26.5% swing away from a Governing party. That cannot be far off a record in World terms.

  • slappymcgroundout

    I don’t know all the ins and outs, but someone just left a comment on Politics.ie reporting that RTE is reporting that FF won’t get a single seat in Dublin South Central, which is a 5 seater.

  • DC

    Reports say Sean Haughey not to keep his seat in Dublin North Central – thank you and good night Haughey family!

  • JAH

    GA looks home and dry. Is that our gain?

  • slappymcgroundout

    RTE reports that Gerry will be elected and that he’s running neck and neck with Fergus O’Dowd for the top of the poll.

  • Comrade Stalin

    SF will be disappointed if Gerry doesn’t top the poll, given the effort they put into the seat – effort that may well turn out to have been at the expense of possible gains elsewhere.

  • Perhaps GA will be the next leader of the Dáil opposition 🙂

  • slappymcgroundout

    RTE now reports that it appears that Gerry has taken the lead over O’Dowd, 22% to 19%.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Lets not be churlish about Sinn Féins performance.
    Coming second in the poll in Louth or even merely getting elected on the first count would be pretty good.
    Comrade Stalin is of course right to say that a lot of effort was put into Louth……a lot of venom also directed at him and it seems the support was more effective than the venom …..as usual.
    But a lot of (too much?) expectation on Fine Gael.
    The economic crisis destroyed Fianna Fáil. It will destroy Fine Gael as well.
    And people like Shane Ross, Mick Wallace and Ming the Merciless are re-drawing the political landscape.
    Sinn Féin are semi detached from that process.
    And Labour have big decisions to make. Their destiny may not lie with over-identification with Fine Gael.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    FG in FF out. FG have succeeded in getting elected this time becuase they failed to get elected last time – there is nothing to suggest that FG would have behaved any differently from FF had they won last time out.

    Good result for SF provided they get into double figures (probably 12?) and very good result for Adams and Doherty.

    ps Expect multiple Slugger posts quoting various jounalists telling us it is a disappointing SF result.

  • Mark

    Barry Andrews sleeps with the Sealions .. …

  • Comrade Stalin

    It will be a remarkable result for SF especially if Gerry tops the poll as now looks likely.

    Apart from that the development will be fantastically irrelevant in Irish politics. The SF opposition will yap at the heels of the new administration but I doubt it will be able to land any real blows. The real opposition will come when FF is done licking its wounds and when “it’s all the fault of our predecessors” stops cutting it.

  • oracle

    SmmyMcN

    “ps Expect multiple Slugger posts quoting various jounalists telling us it is a disappointing SF result.”

    LOL quoting journalists…… why do they even need to quote anybody it’s a fucking disgraceful performance from SF only a moron would try and argue otherwise.

    Labour getting 23% of transfers SF getting 5.2% FF getting 9% in this perfect storm for SF to only get 15-18 seats is a complete joke

  • Greenflag

    Dublin West Burton -Lab first elected , Varadkar (FG) 140 short of quota for second seat . Higgins (Socialist) the third seat and Brian Lenihan scraping in for the 4th

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Comrade Stalin is of course right to minimise the effect of Sinn Féin being the fourth Party in Republics politics. But paradoxically he would maximise the effect of the fifth party in Norn Iron politics……coincidently his own Party. No harm done. 😉 ……but he has a knack of denying that Parties havea “presence”.
    Yet I always find “Count Day” a bit strange. The day when “Mr Lenihan” becomes “Conor” on TV. Graceful. Even decent and with an outbreak of honesty.

    And John Bowman challenging the authenticity of the Exit Poll that RTE paid licence payers money to get.
    Seems the Exit Polls had Fianna Fáil on much lower figures than the reality. Bowman dares to suggest that the pollsters were lied to…..and mentions the infamous polls which suggest that the electorate were too embarrassed to SAY that they voted for Thatcher.
    The voters yesterday “told porky pies”. Well if politicians and journalists tell porky pies, the Electorate are surely entitled to do the same.
    Why dont broadcasters and newspapers catch themselves on.
    Opinion Polls are meaningless.

  • Kevin Barry

    Oracle,

    You did make me laugh this morning, thanks.

  • Greenflag

    Oracle ,

    ”for SF to only get 15-18 seats is a complete joke’

    FF are not laughing . These election wounds may not be bindable .

    Dublin West turnout a massive 82% -now thats notable .

  • Barry the Blender

    I did like Conor Lenihan’s interview. Will be a pity if he’s lost.

    God forbid anyone should criticise Sinn Fein though.

  • Mack

    There is (a probably typical in fairness) lack of generosity on this thread.

    1. 15-18 seats would be brilliant result for SF

    2. There are significant policy differences between FG and FF (e.g. health), significant differences in base (so a different balance wrt taxing and spending) and culture. FF were happy to allow a bubble to boom because it benefitted principally their electoral & financial base (construction workers, PS, developers, banks) and were too slow to cut their ties and blew our credit rating trying to bail out bankrupt sectors.

    Coupled with the PD’s FF probably were more Liberal to FG’s conservative. They also differ significantly on the north.

    Had they swapped in out of power more often (also with Labour) the economy would be in a healthier place right now. The taboo on coalition between them also was problematic and isn’t really in the national interest.

  • lamhdearg

    whats the quota in louth?, 5 seats for now many people? seems a lot,

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Mack,

    “FF were happy to allow a bubble to boom”

    So were FG – they spent their time in the run up to the crash arguing about stamp duty.

    Enda Kenny is like the player standing on the goal line and the ball has come off the back of his head and into the net. He could not even command support wihin his own party and happended to be leader of a centre-right party when the economy imploded.

    re. SF It is clearly looking like a very good result but in political terms, given the arithmetic, it will not translate into political influence.

  • Mack

    ItWasSammy etc..

    If FF lost in 2002, benchmarking wouldn’t have happened. I suspect FG and Labour would not have wanted such a full-on property / credit bubble. Certainly property people I know *all* voted FF (construction / property does better under FF etc)..

    The penal rates of Stamp Duty were immoral, and parties offering to cut them were right.. €50k tax on a 3 bed semi-d / family house in south Dublin was an obscenity…

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Mack,

    “The penal rates of Stamp Duty were immoral, and parties offering to cut them were right.. €50k tax on a 3 bed semi-d / family house in south Dublin was an obscenity…”

    So on the verge of an overheating property collapse the FG response was to argue to make it easier and cheaper to buy property… and they will now be running the country.

    Great.

  • Mack

    Or reduce the burden on families who bought at the peak, perhaps saving some of them from bankruptcy..

  • Mark

    Some bought as first time buyers .. others bought as investments and then you had the first time would be property magnates ….. Cops , nurses , teachers all clubbing in to block buy with money that no one had ….

    Where do you start ? It’s a mess …..

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    For an oppostion party to deserve to get into government they should be be able to demonstrate a clear difference with the incumbents especially when the latter have fecked up the country -we clearly dont have this here with FG.

    It is a fantastic result for FG but lets not pretend it is anything other than a bewildered and worried electorate switching centre-right parties as they have always done.

  • Mack

    That’s pretty dismissive Sammy, and not quite true.

    The last government was pretty close to the centre, centre-right FF & centre-left Greens.

    This one will be even more balanced. FG are further right than FF (at least on the deficit) Labour much larger than the Greens.

    There is a different view on the banks. View from abroad –

    http://www.businessinsider.com/ireland-fine-gael-election-2011-2

    Hopefully Peter Matthews will get in.

    Imagine a UK election were the winning party was going to replace the NHS? Are you not underestimating the magnitude of that decision?

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Mack,

    re. “It is a fantastic result for FG but lets not pretend it is anything other than a bewildered and worried electorate switching centre-right parties as they have always done”

    That does not sound quite as I meant – which is that the switch to FG is not really down to their own actions.

    Yes, I agree that a FG/Labour government is different from FF/Greens etc.

  • perseus

    can’t help but observe/think
    ( am used to UK elections ) that the 3 main parties squeeze SF.

    Were there to be FF/FG + vars greens/indies/socialists/liberals + SF
    then SF would be expected to do very well
    as they’re promising someething completely different .
    trouble is there is a labour party also in the mix.

    As it stands the people are voting FG not FF
    as like in UK when tory/labour go back and forth ..

    Labour ( irish party ) is the party where SF ought and need to be ..
    and that’s the trouble for SF, t
    that there is a labour party people can vote for ..

    That STV electoral system I suppose

  • perseus

    listening to this election, you just wouldn’t think that Ireland is partitioned ..
    ( shakes head )
    ah well Gerry/Mary Lou is worth sticking around for to see..

  • oracle

    ah well Gerry/Mary Lou is worth sticking around for to see.

    ***** jesus you’re easily pleased ******

    do you not have the muppet show on DVD or tape???

  • redhugh78

    Oracle,

    are you a little bit upset, could you do with a wee hug?, aw c’mon we’ll let you keep your brit passport ye know.

  • slappymcgroundout

    The first count is up for Louth:

    Pete Baker’s man, Big Gerry Adams: 15,072
    Fergus O’Dowd: 13,980

    Quota is: 13,864.

  • Rory Carr

    Large helpings of humble pie being eaten in some quarters among our fellow commenters methinks.

  • redhugh78

    Rory,
    Funny aint it, Gerry Adams all over the news and not a single thread on Slugger, in fact, was that a tumble weed just rolled by? 🙂

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Rory,

    “Large helpings of humble pie being eaten in some quarters among our fellow commenters methinks.”

    Humble Pie will certainly be on the menu but I cant see it being consumed (in public anyway).

    I’m sure we can look forward to more of the same, which lets be honest makes Slugger so compelling, to quote the old chestnut – you must be doing soemthing right if they still are still shooting at you.

  • Mark McGregor

    That exit poll is shaping up to be pretty damn good.

    On humble pie – how do you work that out? I can’t recall anyone underestimating SF or Adams vote on Slugger.

    And just because he won and won well doesn’t mean any issues around him or SF become incorrect. All that has been proven today is around 10% of people in the 26 will vote for shinners.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Mark,

    This is how it works – a story is located that is negative about SF and or Gerry and comment invited.

    The last one I can remember was the Indy one saying Gerry will struggle – it was a poor clearly ‘politcal’ piece with obvious intent.

  • Nunoftheabove

    Quite right Mark. Big bleeding tickle – the most rotten, corrupt, incompetent and unpopular government since the foundation of the state and SF might (the lad Ó Snodaigh says so at 19:50 on RTE) gain 6 seats. 85-90% of the could-be-bothered voting public still think they’re talking through their holes.

    Sing the praises of the Louth electorate all you like, redhugh – they’re entitled to choose whoever they like. I’d encourage them to twin themselves with the people of West Belfast and they can delight each other with the benefits this particular parliamentary representative has brought to each of them, say, two years from now.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Mark,

    “10% of people in the 26 will vote for shinners.”

    Dont want to spoil your evening further – but are SF not now the 2nd biggest party in Ireland based on 1stPrefs?

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Nunoftheabove,

    So 80% think the Labour Party are talking through their holes?

  • Zachariah Tiffins Foot

    Dream on boys. Is it time to organise another of those Black Taxi ‘victory’ cavalcades á la ’98? It’ll take your minds off things when you wake up with a headache and realise nothing changed.

    That being said I hope to God Jerry is up all night typing up a new Republican Proclamation to bring with him to the Dáil on Monday morning. Please let him read it on the steps of Leinster House before he goes in, please let there be lots of you waving flags and cheering. I do so love to see your excited little faces; a Nation Once Again by lunchtime at the latest!

  • Mark McGregor

    IWSM,

    Doesn’t bother me either way, I don’t have a horse in this race but are they not still 3rd at present?

  • Rory Carr

    Quite a number of commenters, Mark, as I recall, were quite disparaging of Adams’ chances (although this optimism did not affect any of the regular bloggers).

    You are quite correct to say that, “just because he won and won well doesn’t mean any issues around him or SF become incorrect” if only because issues are neither correct nor incorrect but are simply issues. Whether or not any of the ‘issues’ to which you allude (but do not specify – are they policy issues, issues relating to opposition coalition, or more mundane matters such as whether Adams should or should not shave his beard?) serve to create insurmountable difficulties for Sinn Féin remains to be seen.

    I would however, if I may, take issue with your bold statement that “All that has been proven today is around 10% of people in the 26 will vote for shinners.” Rather all that has been shown today in that regard is that Sinn Féin persuaded 10% of today’s electorate to vote for them. A nice base from which to proslytise among the youth who will comprise a large chunk of tomorrow’s electorate don’t you think?.

  • Mark McGregor

    IWSM,

    If you are looking for a real figure to boast about, Doherty has, so far, the 2nd highest percentage of 1st prefs.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Zachariah Tiffins Foot,

    Good day for the FineGael, Labour and SF and a bad one for FF and of course a good day for SF means a disappointing one for the Dissers and Irish Unionists.

  • Nunoftheabove

    Sammy

    Nearly twice as many people think FF are talking sense than SF at the time of typing. And even FF don’t know what they’re saying themselves.

  • Greenflag

    FF have now gone from being the largest party in the state to being almost a junior party in opposition . They will be outnumbered by independents plus SF They have been hoisted on their own petard and where is the political space for any future rebound ? Labour and SF and the ULA have grabbed the left and FG have grabbed the centre right .

    A sad end perhaps to Ireland’s greatest political party and a national movement since the 1930’s.

    Will Gilmore settle for Tanaiste ?

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Mark,

    “If you are looking for a real figure to boast about, Doherty has, so far, the 2nd highest percentage of 1st prefs.”

    Are you suggesting SF are not the 2nd largest party in vote terms in Ireland? Must be close.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Nunoftheabove,

    You have suggested that the electroate think SF were talking through their hole because people did not vote for them – but you are not extending that logic to other partys – would it be fair to therefore dismiss your remark as a piece ideological nonsnese – or am I being too fair to you?

    Mark,

    “I don’t have a horse in this race ”

    Would it be fair to suggest to you that you dont have a horse in any race and the last time you did have an entrant in a race it did not not even reach the first fence before before a very embarassing fall?

  • Mark McGreg

    IWSM –

    Sinn Fein

    Westminster – 171,942
    Dail so far – 188, 353

    Total – 360,295

    Labour (so far) – 392,764

    Fianna Fail (so far) – 354,840

    Closer to 4th than 2nd at the minute but there are a few seats to go.

  • Greenflag

    Gerry Adams would like to express his thanks to all those who raised his publicity on Slugger just when it seemed he was on his way to not topping the poll and having to settle for the last seat or perhaps none

    Ar la has chuckied

    Gurbh maith agait .

    Seriously folks this election changes the political landscape in a way that we haven’t seen for generations .

  • What ever way you look at this, it looks like being a good night for SF, with Adams gaining such a positive result it is bound tilt SF priorities southward and not before time.

    The Greens have been rightly punished for getting into bed with FF, it was not as if some of us did not see this coming and that was before the economic meltdown. (There is a lesson for the English Lib dems here, they should jump before Clegg sinks the ship)

    Over all the Irish left looks like having a good night, pity Labour cannot resist office and become the core of a progressive opposition which offers the Irish people a real alternative to neo liberal economics.

    On a night like this we are all allowed to dream 😉

    PS. when you listen to the defeated FF TDs they simply do not believe their government made any mistakes, they remind me so much of the British new Labour crown.

  • Nunoftheabove

    ItwasSammyMcNally

    85-90% of the could-be-bothered electorate think that other parties talk less – perhaps marginally less – dung than SF.

    Not quite as many people think that SF are as genuine and clever and visionary and revolutionary and truthful and ethical and progressive as FF are.

    Happier with that ?

  • Nunoftheabove

    ItwasSammyMcNally

    FF down currently 24%+; SF up 2.8%. A seachange in republican fortunes on the island as a whole would you say ?

  • Alf

    “Seriously folks this election changes the political landscape in a way that we haven’t seen for generations .”

    Greendub,

    Yeah the ROI is going to have a FG led government. I doubt that the ultra green brigade will find much to chuckle for about that.

  • Mark McGregor

    It is a great result for SF but there is a lot going on and I’m not even close to reflecting on the thing while so little is actually complete.

    Long way to go and a lot of high drama to come.

    So shinners, settle down and enjoy the greatest show on earth – an election. We can do the post mortems once we have a lot more of the picture.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Mark,

    I think you can add another 10,000ish to the SF total if you use the Stormo elections.

    ps Westminster, is largley an irrelevance to Republicans.

  • oracle

    ****** LOL MARY LOSER McDONALD ******

    ********* STRUGGLING AGAIN *********

    *********** UNBELIEVABLE **********

  • oracle

    Gerrys little pet….. what a donk

  • Mark McGregor

    Eh? Mary Lou is either fighting for 3rd in or an easy 4th. Don’t let your bias get the better of sensible analysis.

  • Greenflag

    FF eliminations will determine who FG picks as it’s ‘partners’ in Government . Could be 78-82 FG according to Hogan -but we won’t know till morrow.

  • oracle

    Mark McG

    fighting for 3rd or an easy 4th you say….

    a very very foolish statement indeed go and look at it again she’s struggling for the 4th spot

    how many chances and what circumstances does she need to win

  • hmmyes

    this is looking like a great result for SF, but the usual sluggeresque nit picking for negative spin has provided me with great entertainment all day! 🙂

  • Mark McGregor

    Oracle – it seems you aren’t one. And RTE agree she is battling for the 3rd or taking the 4th easy as last ‘man’ standing.

    Told you stop letting bias get in your way – you just end up looking like an idiot.

  • RepublicanStones

    Oracle are you even following DC?

    http://www.rte.ie/news/election2011/results/dublin-central.html

    From the relevant twitter feed

    Fitzpatrick says transfers will keep her in the race; accepts MacDonald & O’Sullivan looking good for seats 3&4 #dubc#GE11

  • Henry94

    Jonathan O’Brien just elected in Cork North Central for Sinn Fein. He topped the poll. Chris O’Leary still in the running in Cork South Central. Sandra McLellen looking good in Cork East.

  • oracle

    Mark you said she was battling for 3rd or an easy 4th…..

    if she mkes it she makes it without reaching quota in 4th not a battling 3rd that was lost from count 1

    with any sort of study before answering you would have realised that…

    and not an easy 4th either … that was clear from 2 counts ago but you just hit the keyboard without even studying the votes and transfers…

    NO ONE EVER GOT ELECTED EASILY BY NOT MAKING THE QUOTA

  • Mark McGregor

    Oracle,

    Sorry?

    You had her:

    ********* STRUGGLING AGAIN *********

    She wasn’t struggling ever.

  • lamhdearg

    ken dodd on bbc2, a welcome relief. did anyone see Fionnuala O’Connor on the t.v. tonight, positively pissing herself, at the thought of S.F gaining seats, impartial my ass.

  • Mark McGregor

    Worst personal result of the day has to be Michael D’Arcey (FG) in Wexford – incumbent going out while his party skyrockets, wtf

  • lamhdearg

    11 out of 78 are female,so far, good?

  • oracle

    you can’t make a quota in one of the more working class constits
    during the biggest shambles in the states history

    AND THATS NOT STRUGGLING

    AWAY AND CATCH YOURSELF ON, OR REJOIN SF SEEING AS YOUR TRYING TO SPIN THIS AS A GREAT VICTORY

  • oracle

    Perhaps Mary Loser should contact Brian Stanley in Laois/offaly to see how it’s done

  • slappymcgroundout

    Speaking of Stanley, that’s an interesting crapshoot. John Brady in Wicklow is as well. Colvreavy in Sligo-NL, well, will all come down to transfer of O’Keeffe’s votes. If he gets 201+ more transfers from the Labor gal than FF’s Scanlon he’s in.

    Best tweet of the day/night:

    RTEmeathWEST: Manus Mc Meanmain of CSP in Meath West unhappy. Party logo not on ballot paper. In it’s place is what he claims is pic of bunch of nuts #mhw

    A bunch of nuts? Who would’ve guessed….

  • slappymcgroundout

    Sorry, should be 251+ more for Colreavy over Scanlon from the Labor gal’s tranfers.

  • Henry94

    Cork east win confirmed for Sinn Fein.

    http://www.rte.ie/news/election2011/results/cork-east.html

  • Rory Carr

    I see that’ Ming’ Flanagan is claiming that, along with other independents, he might hold the balance of power in the new Dáil.

    I would say, “Gimme a toke of whatever that is your smoking, Ming, baby,” except that, as well as the beneficial effect of taking away the pain, it clearly takes away whatever little sense one has left (and in my case, that ain’t a lot).

  • Henry94

    Peadar Toibin wins a seat for SF in Meath West.

  • Mark McGregor

    Oracle, stop slabbering and start analysing -we’ve had enough BS spin comments during the campaign – now we have just the decision of the people and you can’t spin that

  • perseus

    M McG not to be confused with MMG – DFM 🙂

    Mary Lou just won

    Oracle a comment from you sir?

  • slappymcgroundout

    Kathyrn Reilly still has an outside, outside shot in Cavan-Monaghan. She’s 6th in a 5 seat, 838 behind the 5th place FG candidate, Conlan. Two more FGs are in 3rd (O’Reilly)and 4th (Humphreys) with a FF soul in 2nd. All that’s left is transfer of the Labor gal’s votes and then assuming the FF soul in 7th place doesn’t pass Reilly, his votes as well. I hope she sneaks into 5th.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Mark McGregor..thats a bit harsh on D’Arcy (but Im laughing too).
    So far the only FG TD to actually lose his seat but he “voluntarily” gave up some territory to help the two who got elected.

  • slappymcgroundout

    So Kathryn Reilly is now 270-some back with the 5,249 for FF’s Margaret Conlon to be transferred. Her party mate Brendan Smith is 640-some votes shy of the quota, so there’s a whole bunch of votes that won’t be transferred to him.

  • slappymcgroundout

    If the Twitter is right, Scanlon just conceded defeat in Sligo-NL, meaning the 3rd and last seat goes to SF’s Colreavy.

  • dwatch

    Fine Gael 36.1% (27.3%) Labour 20.5% (10.1%) Fianna Fáil 15.1% (41.6%) Independent/Other 15.5% (9.4%) Sinn Féin 10.1% (6.9%) Greens 2.7% (4.7%)

    Anyone know how “eirigi” has been polling?

  • dwatch

    Irish Times latest 8 30 am: Fine Gael has secured 59 seats of the 130 seats filled so far, Labour 31, Fianna Fáil 14, Sinn Féin 13 and Independent and other candidates taking 14 seats.

    Did any former “eirigi” candidate win one of these 14 independant seats?

  • Pete Baker

    Added Actual 2011 first preference result in bold

  • perseus

    “Actual 2011 first preference result in bold”

    Doesn’t tell the full story though ,

    SF on 9.9% translates into 13

    FF on 17.4% translates into 16

    Labour’s 19.4% translates into 33

    Its the seats that count

  • Mack

    FF will win more than 16 seats (they’re on 17 now), there are at least 4 proxy FF seats (Mattie McGrath, Lowry, Fleming and at despite his protestations Michael Healy Rae).

    This was an unusual election – that does afford the winners an oppurtunity to enhance their name recognition and build. But it’s unlikely that FF will suffer the same issues next time out (toxic for transfers, too many runners per constituency)..

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Michael Lowry is ex Fine Gael.

  • Mack

    Fair point – he’s definitely not a proxy FF – there are others though. He did support the last government so might be amenable to ensuring FF remain leaders of the opposition.

  • dwatch

    Questions for political Boffins:

    No 1] Could FF (17 at present) go into opposition without being in coalition with either SF (13 at present) or the Ind & others (17 at present).

    No 2} Could SF, Ind & others (30 seats) join together and keep FF out of the opposition?

  • Mack

    Apologies in relation to that last comment, wrote it without re-reading what I’d previously written so thought we were talking about votes rather than seats.

    Lowry may count as part of the FF fold seeing as he backed the government, Foley in Laois Offaly also..

    dwatch – not at all a political boffin so not sure what the technical ins and outs of it all are, but you definitely can’t add up 30 versus 17…

  • Mack

    Noel Grealish (ex PD) in Galway also. Looking at the remaing seats I think FF will get 19 or 20 + 6 potentail supporters = 26..