“I know there is a lot of genuine people who feel abandoned”

When the [soon-to-be] former International Representative for west Belfast announced his intention to disappear over the border to Louth, he assured the Dundalk Democrat that

GERRY Adams will reside in County Louth if elected to Dail Eireann in this constituency.
The Sinn Fein leader made the admission on a visit to The Dundalk Democrat on Monday.

Many people had questioned his decision to run in County Louth despite not being from the area but Mr Adams said he will happily relocate here in order to do the job to the best of his ability.

“My family home is in West Belfast and it will remain there but I will live here in order to do the job as best I can and go home then whenever the chance allows it.”
There’s a slightly different emphasis in the west Belfast-based Andersonstown News report

[Gerry Adams] cited the Derry city-based Martin McGuinness and Sinn Féin Euro MP Bairbre de Brún, who calls Andersonstown her home, as examples of elected representatives successfully carrying out political duties in one area while living a considerable distance away in another.

“I’m clearly going to stay in Louth, the same way that Bairbre goes to Strasbourg and Brussels but comes back and lives in West Belfast, so I will still be about the place,” he said.

“My church is here. My GAA club is here. This is Antrim and I’m an Antrim supporter.  All my connectiveness is here. I’ll work in Louth and I’ll stay there because you have to be available if they elect me, but I’ll be back here and I’ll still be very much a part of this community.  My family home is here and I’m going to stay here.”

Potayto, potahto, tomayto, tomahto…

But although Martin McGuinness is elected to represent Mid Ulster, he travels to-and-from Stormont from his home in Londonderry.

And Bairbre de Brún is an MEP for Northern Ireland [including west Belfast]… so the “same way” in that case would be to go to Dublin but come back and live in Louth.

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  • joeCanuck

    Will he get expenses for maintaining a second residence?

  • George

    So Mr Adams will be ordinarily resident in Louth while having his family home in Belfast and his main place of work in Dublin.

    This is an outrage. Let’s hope the good people of Louth see through this unworkable charade and he doesn’t get elected.

    If he was from County Down, maybe, but Antrim? Come on, give us a break…

  • Neil

    I know. It’s almost like someone being an MP for, oh I dunno, Newcastle and expecting to be able to represent his constituents in London. I mean that’s miles and miles and miles away.

    Clearly the only solution is devolution for every area more than 50 miles away from their respective parliament as no one could possibly be expected to travel 100 miles, that’s completely ridiculous.

    Move along folks, nothing to see here.

  • White Horse

    He seems to be having second thoughts about the move. He may have acted rashly by deserting his own people in a political sense. It was certainly a quick decision, perhaps even a panic decision on the back of Arthur Morgan’s decision to stand down.

    He might get elected next time but I doubt if he’ll get re-elected. Arthur Morgan had a bit of economic savvy that Louth people appreciated. Gerry’s just a figure head now with no particular loyalty to any creed, sport or county.

  • Rory Carr

    40 minutes travel time from West Belfast to Dundalk. Most people who work in London would consider themselves blessed to have such a short commute to work each day. I knew lots of people who travelled from Reading, Swindon and even Bath each day to work in Central London.

    George’s outrage is misplaced and, I suspect, feigned.

  • Pod

    Pete Baker is just becoming increasingly tiresome

  • Pete Baker

    USA

    On “former”

    I’ll add [soon-to-be] to the original post.

  • USA

    Thank you.

  • White Horse

    USA

    I’ve seen some ranters and bullies in my time, but you take the biscuit.

  • George

    Rory,
    I’m outraged that you think I’m feigning my outrage.As you might have noticed, I’m easily outraged.

    Perhaps you think I should be equally outraged about the likes of Michael Fitzpatrick, Pat Carey, Bertie Ahern, Mary Harney, Pat Rabitte, John O’Mahony, Mary Hanafin etc not living in their constituencies when they were elected but there is only so much outrage a man can endure.

    I don’t want to even think where some of these buckos were born or I would likely blow a fuse.

    Instead, I’m staying sane by keeping all my outrage for Mr Adams.

    if I was from north of the border, it would naturally be reserving it for Pat Doherty for representing Tyrone while spending too much time in Donegal.

    I’m grateful for this thread as I needed a release valve for this outrage.

  • Neil

    A quiet word in your ear from Mick is long overdue to ensure the integrity and voracity of his website. IMHO you are doing Slugger a grave disservice, when you could probably be a much better contributor. Take a leaf out of Turgon’s book.

    Ah be fair now, we all have some small axe to grind, even if we don’t recognise that in ourselves.

    Your point in terms of the US is one I thought of making, but didn’t bother for fear of derision due to contrasting our local politicians with the ones in the USA (strictly speaking Obama’s NI equivalent would be Pete the Punt Robinson), and that’s just ridiculous.

    But it’s a good point well made, at the end of the day I would reckon most politicians on the planet will commute a further distance than Gerry, seing as how we live in a tiny wee country that would fit in the state of Texas five times over (and that’s the 32 counties I’m referring to). He’s probably got less of a commute than someone from Killarney.

    Actually on the AA routeplanner Belfast –> Dublin is 104.8 miles and takes 2hr 03 min.

    Killarney –> Dublin is 188.6 miles and takes 3 hr 44 mins.

    Therefore our Gerry could drive to the Dail and back to Sprucefield in the time it takes for our man in Killarney to make a one way trip.

    But back to my original point, I suppose the thing that this site provides is a space where people from diametrically opposed points of view can learn a bit about each other so it’s good to have everyone on board. No censorship required.

  • tacapall

    As long as the man keeps driving as far as he can away from West Belfast, his credibility and integrity has been brought into question too many times. Retiring him to the country is a good move the grass roots and the joe bloggs voters in Louth might not know the personal baggage the man carries.

  • joeCanuck

    Neil,

    I’ve asked before but nobody answered. Maybe you know. Why is Robinson called the Punt?

  • joeCanuck

    Where is the ball?

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    The boy Gerry is a lot closer to his home and is a lot more useful than the largely redunant international representative/viceroy from Shropshire or wherever the boy Oweney Patters is from.

  • tacapall
  • tacapall

    Invasion of Clontibret

  • joeCanuck

    Rory,

    Interesting report I read a couple of years ago. No matter how people travel to work, walking cycling etc or where they live in the world, people take an average of 45 minutes to get there.

  • joeCanuck

    Thanks, tacapall.

  • pippakin

    Pulling out now would be silly and there should be no need he should be elected relatively easily.

    SF have neglected the south, they must repair the damage and to do that it needs one of the big two to come here. I’m not keen on the ‘I’ll live here and work there’ routine it smacks of part time and the south deserves and should get full attention.

    He has a lot of dirty laundry but provided no one starts washing before the election he should be alright. It is his to lose.

  • SW

    It’s not the same at all. The direct comparison would be someone being MP for Newcastle, working in London, but family home (and all cultural roots and background) in The Scottish Borders. It would be seen, rightly, as career-driven egotism.

  • John East Belfast

    The apt word in all this is “abandon”.

    It is outageous to stand for election in May and then resign the seat 6 months later for another constituency in another jurisdiction in another Parliament. It adds insult to the injury of never taking up your seat in the first place.

    This combined with the fact that he has left the constituency as one of the most (if not the most) deprived ones in these whole Isles shows he treats his constituents with nothing but contempt.

    I know FF are atrocious but surely the Louth electorate are not going to fall for this charlatan ?

  • USA

    I presume you guys are referring to Newcastle, Co Down. I believe Margaret Richie represents this constituency for the SDLP to the British parliament in London. Surely it is more difficult for her to travel back and forth that it may be for Adams in Louth. After all, Louth is perfectly placed between Belfast and Dublin, very natural for Adams in many respects.

  • USA

    The DUP paid the Irish court fine rather than having him go to jail in the South after his arrest for paramilitary activity. Probably a smart decision as I would not have fancied his chances. At the time the Republic was still using the Punt as the Euro had not been introduced yet.

  • USA

    JEB,
    I don’t know why i’m bothering today, but here goes.
    Seventy years of neglect by the Orange State, 30 years of confllict, decades of lack of FDI, varied socio-economic factors and individual responsibility are only a few of the many complex and varied factors contributing to the challanges facing West Belfast today. I also think many of these challanges face other low income inner city areas throughout the Western world. It’s not unique to Adams or West Belfast. While it is far from perfect, the situation has improved greatly since the ceasefire.

    To blame it all on Adams is just party poliltical point scoring bullshit that does absolutely nothing to contribute finding workable solutions.. Maybe you and Baker should start your own “Bashing Adams Blog”………good luck with that.

  • As Joe asked, where is the ball in this. The Irish economy is going down the tubes and the government hopefully with it, and we get this, a bit obsessive me thinks.

  • pippakin

    There are half a dozen very depressing threads on the financial disaster facing the south.

    Gerry Adams is a legitimate target and he has announced that he is going to Louth to save the south.

    He is news. Love him or hate you can’t ignore him.

  • tacapall

    Im from west belfast and the man is just like all those politicians that run about the Dail, totally corrupt, has absolutely no integrity. The only jobs he brought to west belfast were those for his followers on the gravy train and in the construction sector – all countrymen, I challenge anyone to do a survey of all the major building sites in west belfast to find out how many west belfast residents or indeed wider belfast residents actually work on the sites.

  • USA

    White Horse,
    When I tackled Baker above I made the effort to play the ball, I referenced his language and pointed out where I disagree with him. I did not suggest censoring him, just a conversation between him and Mick on the overall Slugger project and his “contribution” to it.

    Do you care to elaborate on your comments about me? Or are you content to call me a bully and ranter without actually ever touching the ball?

    I am so sick of being ridiculed as a “dumb Yank”, people using racist terms such as “bog trotters” and “leprechaun language” without censure, yet tackles on Baker are always deemed to be fouls by Mick.

    I know I am walking a thin line today. If Mick censures me I will be greatly dissapointed for I know others have tried to make the same points. If not, then credit to him for trying his best to be fair on an issue that I know seems to irritate him.

  • the future’s bright, the future’s orange

    I think it would be great if Gerry got a seat in the south – give us all a good laugh in these dark times – well apart from the people of louth i guess…

  • ‘A legitimate target’ ahaa, now that sort of language brings back memories.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Seventy years of neglect by the Orange State, 30 years of confllict, decades of lack of FDI, varied socio-economic factors and individual responsibility are only a few of the many complex and varied factors contributing to the challanges facing West Belfast today.

    Sorry, but you can’t just fall back on mopery this time. West Belfast is one of the most deprived regions in NI and Adams has done nothing to try to address that.

    A while ago Squinter/Robin Livingstone of the Andytown News felt compelled on two different occasions to publicly question what evidence there was on the ground that Gerry Adams had made life better for people in West Belfast. This was unusual as it’s not characteristic of either Livingstone or the Andersontown News group (run by former SF councillor Máirtín Ó Muilleoir) to in any way criticise SF or Adams. A short time later Livingstone was compelled to publish an apology.

    Joe Hendron used to say that Gerry Adams only created one job while MP – his own.

  • USA

    Pip,

    “Going to Louth to save the South”

    Nice 🙂

  • pippakin

    USA

    You are attacking the messenger, believe me if Pete Baker had used his wooden spoon he could have stirred a great deal more than the above.

    He is, as we all are, entitled to his opinions if you follows Slugger you know where he stands.

    If you can find anything good to say about GA, say it, we in the south need a laugh.
    Btw I’m not one of the ones most against him, not by a very long way.

  • Reader

    USA: rather than having him go to jail in the South after his arrest for paramilitary activity.
    Actually, after his arrest for organising a protest that turned violent. Not the first nor the last local politician who has been in that position.

  • pippakin

    USA

    Has a certain ring to it doesn’t it.

  • pippakin

    Mickhall

    And if the only things hurt are his feelings he will be much better off than so many others…

  • joeCanuck

    BREAKING NEWS

    Pete Baker doesn’t like Gerry Adams very much and thousands of people agree with him, including quite a few of Adams’ former comrades, some of whom post on SOT. Adam’s constituents, to a large degree, disagree, as is their right.
    To call him (Pete) obsessive is a bit of the pot and kettle black arse stuff, since those who denigrate him (Pete) are just as obsessive.
    As far as I can see, no amount of carping and whinging and whining is going to stop him blogging what he thinks is newsworthy.
    So suck it up and give it over. Play the ball.

  • Dec

    ‘This combined with the fact that he has left the constituency as one of the most (if not the most) deprived ones in these whole Isles shows he treats his constituents with nothing but contempt.’

    Funny how that was never an issue when Gerry Fitt or Joe Hendron were MPs.

  • Alan N/ARDS

    USA

    “seventy years of neglect by the orange state” That old chesnut again. I’m pretty sure millions of African Americans would have loved to live in the orange state during the time they had no vote in the “white state”. They wouldn’t have had to sit at the back of the bus or eat in different restuarants. Maybe the real americans who had to live on reservations would have enjoyed living here as well. The “orange state” as you call it was most difinately no perfect. The other state on the island of Ireland, which was in the main, controlled by representatives of the Vatican was not perfect either.

  • Dec

    ‘As far as I can see, no amount of carping and whinging and whining is going to stop him blogging what he thinks is newsworthy.’

    Bradshaw leaves the UUP, retiring from politics then joins Alliance, Parsley leaves Alliance for the Conservatives then leaves the Conservatives etc etc and Pete’s off washing his tights. Gerry Adams gives 2 interviews to two seperate newspapers (both stating he will live in Louth) and he’s all over it like a tramp on chips. I think we can safely dispense with the ‘newsworthy’ argument.

  • Dec

    Trust the biggest story of the year not to have a SF angle. Typical!

  • pippakin

    Dec

    But those subjects were covered on Slugger. If you don’t like Pete Bakers style or the subjects he chooses that is your choice. The rest of us will make individual choices too.

    Its all about choice, there are republican, nationalist and unionist bloggers on Slugger.

  • joeCanuck

    Pete’s off washing his tights.

    Get a grip. That’s nowhere near the ball.

  • Alias

    It’s more properly a case of not residing in the jurisdiction rather than not living in the constituency.

  • joeCanuck

    Alias,

    That’s a fair point. I believe a couple of SF MLAs live south too. Doesn’t seem right.

  • medillen

    Any of you posters from Louth will soon have your say at imminent General Election, the rest the comments are predictable and largely irrelevant.

  • Alias

    NI is a competitor economy to Ireland so it is particularly stupid for Irish voters to elect those who seek to promote the British economy of NI at the direct expense of the Irish economy. But Irish voters are particularly brilliant at being particularly stupid…

  • becky

    does he even have a UK driving licence.surely he wont be allowed to have his gang of goons drive him in and out of the dall.

  • wj

    “I know there is a lot of genuine people who feel abandoned”

    For some reason, I thought this thread mught have been about those OTR’s whose cases still remain unresolved.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Unionist infatuation with Grizzly, may be annoying to some but is understandable given his outstanding success in delivering both political success to SF in Ulster and delivering reform of the Orange state.

    However much Unionists, or crpyto Unionists, jibber jabber on about seperate jurisdictions, post GFA, with the Irish government deeply involved in all political developments in Ulster and All Ireland political structures in place Nationalist politcians rightly ignore Unionist complaints.

    Looking forward to the Unionist reaction on Slugger when Gerry gets elected in Louth.

  • becky

    their reaction will be like most decent people…..good riddance

  • Cynic

    Has he left the wife?

  • Cynic

    Aye shut him up. We dont want any of that freedom of speech nonsense here

  • Cynic

    ,,,,or it could be the trail of lies and bodies from the organisation he was never a member (never mind a leader) of, Sammy

  • JJ Malloy

    What would slugger be without multiple blog posts about ole Brownie??

  • Pete Baker

    “You are attacking the messenger, believe me if Pete Baker had used his wooden spoon he could have stirred a great deal more than the above.”

    Indeed, pippakin.

    I could have corrected his grammar for a start. 😉

  • pippakin

    Pete Baker

    Show off! Correct his grammar if you will but leave mine alone. Its developing a life of its own…

  • Nunoftheabove

    Awful parochial, a lot of this chaps and chapesses. Adams, whatever little he has offered West Belfast over the years – and it amounts I think to very little indeed, socio-economically – has little left to give it. He’s maxed out his vote and can only lose if he stays. Let’s let the people of Louth decide whether they think he has much of anything that they want and will vote for. As and if they decide he can, why would they care whether he lives there or not ?

    He appears to me to have yielded very very little of substance for all his contacts by way of sustainable investment or welth redistribution, even locally. The man is plainly all at sea with economics but such is the shallow, narrow talent pool within the north’s political landscape that he gets away with that and is deferred to by the media and much too often soft-soaped. Every time I’ve heard him open his mouth on the subject, north or south, he’s hesitant, empty on facts, devoid of alternative ideas, stumbles even on platitudes. He clearly doesn’t understand the basics.

    But, this is Louth we’re talking about and it isn’t the only constituency in the land where voters have in the past opted for ‘the lesser of two evils’.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    CYNIC,

    That is a fair point.

    The truth is a combination of the personal and the political.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Nunoftheabove,

    Adams clearly does war better than he does peace.

  • Pete Baker

    He’s the ‘writer’, pip. 😉

  • pippakin

    Pete Baker

    That explains it…

  • Rory Carr

    West Belfast is indeed a horrendously deprived area and like the history of many deprived areas throughout these islands it returns a radical, progressive, combative representative. We may think of Nye Bevin, Willie Gallagher, Noel Browne, Ellen Wilkinson,Phil Piratin and many others.

    As with any individual representative whose party does not hold power, does not have its hand firmly grasping the nation’s economic tiller, these men and women had to endure the sight of their constituency and its members suffer in depradation until the opportunity came (as it did with Bevin and Wilkinson) when they had the political power to effect the conditions of their people. In the meantime they acted as the best voice that these people could have which was why they retained the loyalty of their electorate. Or do the detractors of Adams here wish to argue that West Belfast would sudenly become a social and economic success if it returned an SDLP representative or an Alliance one, or how about a DUP or TUV one? Or, all you holier-than-thou, truly, madly, deeply, Republicans do you imagine that one of your fine (non-violent) Dissident politicos might cut the mustard and have jobs galore going abegging on the Falls just as soon as you get elected? Moot bloody point of course because there’s no effing chance of that in a million years, poor they might be in West Belfast, but they ain’t stupid. Of course you’ll all have the opportunity to call me on this shortly. Won’t you just?

  • White Horse

    Rory

    Could it possibly be that the demographic battle that’s going on between unionism and Sinn Fein is the reason why there is no urgency to address need in West Belfast?

    The conflict again might be said to define and underscore the ways of Sinn Fein such that the goal is itself conflict. If peace was their way, and peace was their goal, wouldn’t justice be enabled and ancient anxieties be disabled.

  • Driftwood

    Rory
    West Belfast is no more ‘deprived’ than East, South or North Belfast. in fact most of it is within 5 minutes of the Central Business District (CBD). Usually an area much sought after in most major democracies.
    It actually has an advantage on Bangor or Downpatrick or Lisburn or even Ballymena or Coleraine, many of whose populace choose to travel to work. At least an hour each way.
    Perhaps, just perhaps, many of its residents just cannot be bloody arsed working for a living. preferring to sponge off Westminster/English taxpayer for a lifestyle 99% of the world can only dream of? Maybe the honourable member for the area sets them an example.

  • White Horse

    You’re clearly a Tory ideologue, Driftwood.

  • tacapall

    “Perhaps, just perhaps, many of its residents just cannot be bloody arsed working for a living. preferring to sponge off Westminster/English taxpayer for a lifestyle 99% of the world can only dream of”.

    And why not Driftwood, the econimical war still goes on for the majority of those who reside in nationalist areas. If Britain insists on imposing its authority on those of us who consider themselves as Irish then Britain can pay for the privledge. As for the bearded one setting an example – Are you having a joke, Duck ponds and Tory milioniares come to mind, your kind of people.

  • USA

    Reader,
    He was heavily engaged in paramilitary activity during that period, any number of google searches can confirm this for you.

  • USA

    Sorry Comrade,
    It’s the truth not mopery. Tell me which one of the contributing factors I suggested is wrong. As another poster rightly pointed out, Adams advocated for his constituents despite never actually ever having power to initiate reform. Remember also that the SDLP ruled the roost here for many years, not Adams.
    For some posters to blame Adams is just garbage, it’s much bigger than one man.

  • USA

    Alan N/ards,
    African-Americans prefering to live in the Orange State? (shakes head). This is wrong on so many levels that all I can say is Barak Obama. I’ll leave you to fill in the blanks as you see fit.

  • USA

    White Horse, I’m assuming you were drunk when you wrote that drivel.

  • USA

    Care to put your handbags down and address the issue ladies, any issue?

  • USA

    Neil, of course it’s valuable to hear different viewpoints. From my perspective Turgon is a good example. I do not advocate censoring him or anyone else.

  • USA

    Joe,

    Baker posts on Slugger everyday obsessing about Adsms. Every time I visit Slugger (approx 3 days a week) he has a string of posts about SF. I can assure you I don’t have that amount of home on my hands to obsess about anyone. If I did Baker will be relieved to hear I wouldn’t waste it on him. For some reason I always suspected that Baker came from a Catholic background (seriously), but he bears all the hallmarks of an old style DUP activist.

  • slappymcgroundout

    Ah, more Sinn Fein on the brain. And, Joe, hard to play the ball when there isn’t a ball to be played. This is the living definition of non-story. Note Honolulu in the lower left here:

    http://www.safetravel.govt.nz/destinations/maps/mapunitedstates.shtml

    Now note Wash DC. About 5,000 miles away. So they don’t really live here, but in DC. I’ll be waiting for Pete’s post on Hawaii’s secession from our Union, I mean, how could Dan Inouye possibly serve his constituents after decades in DC and mere days in Hawaii. As I said, non-story and there is no ball to be played. The rest of the non-story is simply explained. Sinn Fein is the only island-wide party. They need some growth in the ROI, the one soul is standing down, and the current govt is circling the drain, so time to make the move, for the good of the party. Pete does understand the concept or notion of party, yes? Apparently not, since if he did, he wouldn’t be crying over “abandonment”, since if loyalty to constituents were the issue, then there wouldn’t be any party extending beyond the particular constituency boundary. That’s the sum total of non-story here.

  • Uglymaeirin

    As regards Mr A getting to B I urge us not to forget the magnificent man and his flying machine

    http://sluggerotoole.com/2008/06/07/that-provo-birdie/

    Ugly

  • pippakin

    USA

    i don’t know where in the world you are but it was your attack on the messenger that caused this brief diversion.

    If you are anxious to debate the state of the south there are several threads to choose from.

    Gerry Adams announced he was going to Leinster House to solve the souths economic problems, and here we were thinking it couldn’t get any worse…

  • pippakin

    tacapall

    Have you even glanced at the problems in the south?

    Economic war! Give me a break! On tv3 last night Vincent Browne and a cast of experts were saying Ireland’s debts were nearer three hundred BILLION than the mere eighty five BILLION mentioned earlier in the day.

    I am honestly fed up with selfish bastards in the north who think living off the state is a good way to achieve anything, some people just can’t get a job and the benefits they are entitled to are likely to disappear.

    I suspect you have no idea about the real Ireland, its dire problems and its probable long term servitude to bloody Brussels!

  • francesco

    (Unsurprisingly) poor article Mr Baker “Potayto, potahto, tomayto, tomahto…”

  • tacapall

    Pippakin just a little line before I head down to the local dole office to suck more money out of them – why dont you get off your knees….. blaming people who claim off social security for the economic problems is the usual crap you hear from the Tory millionaires. Why not point the finger where the blame lies greedy politicians and unscrupulous bankers who are sucking the life out of society. But of course Pip you’re from Mayo and you know whats best for everyone.

  • pippakin

    tacapall

    I am not blaming anyone for being unemployed, how ridiculous, did I not say some, and here believe me it is the vast majority, can’t get a job, when six hundred people apply for sixty jobs at the local Tesco’s then you get a glimpse of how bad it is and how many people are eager to work.

    It is the idea that in the present situation being unemployed is some kind of viable political alternative that is so offensive to me.

    I don’t have any solutions and neither I am sure does Gerry Adams. Mind, I’m leaning toward the idea of defaulting on the loans and stuff the whole lot of em.

  • Rory Carr

    That’s it, Pips, you default on the loans, that’ll show ’em.

  • Anon

    Yes, because a single MP has a great deal of influence over what happens in his constituency. You are bit confused. This isn’t the US, and he isn’t a Senator.

  • Rory Carr

    Then Adams can hardly be blamed for the deprivation in his constituency any more than he is to blame for that in East, South or North Belfast, can he?

  • Rory Carr

    “….a single MP has a great deal of influence over what happens in his constituency.”

    You think? Perhaps you are confused. It may be the case where the MP is a minister in central government but no Irish MP has any influence whatsoever – the only bargaining chips we ever had was violence or the threat of it and for that Britannia must be held responsible.

  • pippakin

    Rory Carr

    You are never far enough away, what is the weather like in London today?

  • Mick Fealty

    Mick,

    Have you stopped reading Slugger lately for some reasons? Pete’s blogs on the southern crisis have been accurate and consistent (as his pieces on Adams generally are).

    If you’d prefer to feast on Slugger’s economic output you’ll find a diverse range of angles at this page: http://sluggerotoole.com/topic/economy/

    USA has been red carded for these repeated attacks on Pete. That will be him out for two weeks. If he does it again (even the slightest infringement), I’ll Black Spot him and he’s gone for good.

    I’m afraid Pete is entitled to blog what he likes (as is everyone else on the Slugger team)… There are plenty of people on Slugger who disagree with him and say so. But there is a line, and USA has crossed it.

  • Jean Meslier

    Getting back to the thread about the leader of an all island party having the audacity to seek a democratic mandate in an area less than hour from where he presently lives.

    Reading the familiar comments of the usual annoyed suspects I am reminded of the words of the major in Fawlty Towers.
    “No Fawlty nooo. I won’t have it.”

    Major Baker has a nice ring to it, don’t you think?

  • Jean Meslier

    Getting back to the thread about the leader of an all island party having the audacity to seek a democratic mandate in an area less than hour from where he presently lives.

    Reading the familiar comments of the usual annoyed suspects I am reminded of the words of the major in Fawlty Towers.
    “No Fawlty nooo. I won’t have it.”

    Major Baker has a nice ring to it, don’t you think?

  • White Horse

    Funny enough, USA, but I didn’t get sent off.

  • Rory Carr

    The weather is delightful, thank you, crisp and clear with just a lacing of white cloud trails.

    Now that you mention it – I am not too far away, perhaps I should put myself forward for a Mayo constituency at the next election – I could count on your vote at least. Couldn’t I ?

  • pippakin

    Rory Carr

    Well its bloody freezing here and a lot of people are going to have trouble paying the heating bills.

    My vote? If you turn up as the Labour candidate – well of course.

  • tacapall

    Pippakin.
    “I am not blaming anyone for being unemployed, how ridiculous”

    Maybe I got the impression from your previous post,

    “I am honestly fed up with selfish bastards in the north who think living off the state is a good way to achieve anything”.

    Whats your problem what people from the North do as regards living off the British Government, does it cost you or the Irish Government anything ? If its good enough for Mrs Windsor and her family of parasites then its good enough for those of us ” Selfish Bastards up here in the British controlled part of Ireland.

  • pippakin

    tacapall

    The problem is that the ‘make the Brits pay’ argument is as discredited as the fallen idol who promoted it.

    I’m sorry if I gave you the impression I have anything but empathy for unemployed people wherever they are.

    The problems here are huge and some cherished ideals and ambitions are having to be put on hold for the time being, that annoys me and it is not as though I can see an end of the cuts in sight!

    Btw when did you stop supporting SF?

  • tacapall

    Pippakin supporting Sinn Fein and disagreeing with those at the helm are two different things. Untill the likes of Adams and Co go they will never get my and many other grassroots republicans support. Hopefully he’ll stay down in Louth out of the way where he cant do any more harm.

  • pippakin

    tacapall

    Keep it peaceful and stay safe.

  • Halfer

    Appalingly broad strokes driftwood. Although I moved house earlier this year, I was born and raised in west Belfast. I find you remarks offensive. Provide empirical evidence for what you say or else keep such comments to yourself.

  • Mick

    Sorry for not replying, only just seen this after your nod, Of course Pete should be allowed to blog what he likes, and long may it last. I just thought this piece was a little obsessive and off beam and said so.