UUP pick Westminster candidates

The UUP executive have apparently confirmed 9 of their candidates for Westminster. These are now the UCUNF candidates for the respective constituencies they are as follows:

East Belfast Trevor Ringland
West Belfast Bill Manwaring
Upper Bann Harry Hamilton
Mid Ulsrter Sandra Overend
Lagan Valley Daphne Trimble
Newry Armagh Danny Kennedy
West Tyrone Ross Hussey
Strangford Mike Nesbitt
South Down John McCallister

In addition although he has apparently denied it in the Irish News today, there is a large amount of speculation that former senior RUC officer Norman Baxter will be the unopposed unionist candidate in Fermanagh / South Tyrone. If true that will no doubt be a battle royal with Gildernew.

  • joeCanuck

    Turgon,
    I believe those are agreed UCUNF candidates.

  • joeCanuck
  • Turgon

    Joe,
    You are correct I will ammend

  • Driftwood

    Love to see Trevor Ringland win East Belfast as he is the only non-sectarian candidate standing there. Same with Strangford.
    Real pity they couldn’t persuade Tim Collins for South Antrim as he would walk over that loony bigot McCrea. Though it would be even better to see the SAS trained Colonel beat joke ex part-time corporal Jones in Lagan Valley.
    Now where is the DUP list, given that they would not be brazen enough to double job, or would they?

  • Garza

    Driftwood, has Tom Collins been comfirmed running for South Antrim? I can’t believe they would reject the Colonel!

  • Greenflag

    Good luck -True Blue 😉

    You’ll need it in West Belfast . But a good showing won’t do any harm for the Assembly .

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Well a UUP unopposed candidate in Fermanagh/south Tyrone will hardly be surprising. Indeed a very wise poster here has predicted this in three seperate threads (he keeps count of these things).

    The DUP will not stand.
    Not a pact of course. But the UUP will be able to say their hands are clean of sectarianism because in was a DUP decision.
    There will of course be a quid pro pro for the pact……er I mean non pact.
    A UUP token candidate in a DUP constituency where the result will not be in threat.

    Gin and Tonics all round in Orange Lodges, DUP and non sectarian UUP circles.

  • The Original Sam Maguire

    So much for contesting every constituency then.

    In fairness Turgon, you’re overselling it. Battle royal my hole – SF need to entice the Gerry McGeough contingent back into the fold and half Tommy Gallagher vote from 2007 to have any chance against a strong Unionist candidate. I know where my money is.

  • [i]Love to see Trevor Ringland win East Belfast as he is the only non-sectarian candidate standing there[/i]

    I think Alliance and the SDLP would have something to say about that.

  • Harry J

    Love to see Trevor Ringland win East Belfast as he is the only non-sectarian candidate standing there. Same with Strangford. ………….

    and how is Peter RObinson sectarian

  • slug

    How is David Vance, the TUV candidate, sectarian?

  • Driftwood

    Garza
    No, he had talks with some UUP members, but his business interests come first. Not this coming parliament. He would make a great Defence minister. (Though many at the MoD would be shitting themselves.)
    Loathe the idea of McCrea at Westminster, even prefer David Ford.

    nineteensixtyseven
    I was thinking of electable parties in that constiuency. Naomi is too far outfield and Ringland will harvest the liberal vote. Dawn Purvis will draw from a depleted DUP vote. No idea about the TUV there.

    Fitsjameshorse. You may be right but I think SF will win FST no matter what. That’s a pity given their abstentionist policy, but British democracy takes it course.

  • slug

    I wonder whether we can read anything into the fact that some seats are agreed now, and other seats have not been agreed, and no Conservatives have been stood yet.

  • Driftwood,

    Fair enough!

  • Driftwood

    HarryJ
    ‘Invasion’ of Clontibret
    On 7 August 1986, in protest at the Anglo-Irish Agreement, Robinson led a group of 500 loyalists into the town of Clontibret in County Monaghan in the Republic of Ireland. The loyalists entered the Garda station in the town and physically assaulted two Gardaí, before holding a quasi-military parade in the town square. Robinson was later arrested. He pleaded guilty to unlawful assembly and was fined IR£17500 in a Drogheda court to escape a prison sentence. As a result, Robinson briefly resigned from the DUP deputy leadership. There was also violence both before and after a court appearance in Dundalk, including Ian Paisley being attacked with stones and petrol bombs after Jim Wells and other Robinson supporters waved flags and sang Loyalist songs. At his trial the judge described him as “a senior extremist politician”.
    Ulster Resistance
    In November 1986, he spoke at the Ulster Hall demonstration which launched Ulster Resistance, an organisation which subsequently collaborated with the Ulster Defence Association and Ulster Volunteer Force to import arms from South Africa, Robinson was photographed wearing the loyalist paramilitary military uniform at an Ulster Resistance demonstration.

    At a rally in Enniskillen, Peter Robinson announced; “‘Thousands have already joined the movement and the task of shaping them into an effective force is continuing. The Resistance has indicated that drilling and training has already started. The officers of the nine divisions have taken up their duties’.

    On 30 October 2008 in his first extensive interview as First Minister interview for Hearts and Minds for BBC Northern Ireland, Peter Robinson publicly endorsed the controversial view, also shared by his wife Iris Robinson, that homosexuality was against Christian theology.

    Robinson said: “It wasn’t Iris Robinson who determined that homosexuality was an abomination, it was The Almighty. This is the Scriptures. It is a strange world indeed where somebody on the one hand talks about equality, but won’t allow Christians to have the equality, the right to speak, the right to express their views.”
    The comments angered LGBT Christian groups throughout the UK.

    The Office of the First Minister and deputy First Minister is tasked with promoting “better community relations” and “a culture of equality and rights” in Northern Ireland, including for Christians and gay people.

    I could go on.

    If Trevor Ringland has a similar history please tell us.

  • And who exactly is “Gildernew”? This person (I presume its a person) being the only one in your post without a fore- or Christian – name.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Naomi is too far outfield

    How did she – convincingly – beat the UUP Party Leader in 2007 then ?

    You may be right but I think SF will win FST no matter what.

    Why, is Gildernew outfield as well ?

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Driftwood,
    No, he had talks with some UUP members, but his business interests come first. Not this coming parliament. He would make a great Defence minister. (Though many at the MoD would be s****** themselves.)

    I fully take this point.
    Personally I find Tim Collins a military bore and I think he is more likely to have a career as a minor celebrity on TV.
    But the record of people doing Cabinet jobs that they actually know something about is not good. For example the “Minister for the City of London” was a City insider.
    Likewise that Goldsmith guy will be a disaster for the “Environment”.

    Unfortunately the comparison that comes to mind with Tim Collins is……Colin Mitchell.
    Gung ho colonel in Aden.
    Media darling.
    MP for just 4 years. Monday clubber. Pro Rhodesia. Pro white Seth Effrikka.
    He eventually became a nutter.
    Collins looks remarkably sane but a career in Westminster would do him no good at all.

  • slug

    Naomi isn’t outfield. East Belfast is a constituency the yellows could actually win.

  • slug

    “the record of people doing Cabinet jobs that they actually know something about is not good. […]. Likewise that Goldsmith guy will be a disaster for the “Environment”.”

    Er, when was Zac ever in the Cabinet?

  • I think, given the Alliance Party’s 2007 performance, a split in the Unionist vote could well mean that they are in with a chance.

  • Garza

    [quote]No, he had talks with some UUP members, but his business interests come first. Not this coming parliament. He would make a great Defence minister. (Though many at the MoD would be shitting themselves.)[/quote]

    Yeah we would make a brilliean MoD!

    [quote]Loathe the idea of McCrea at Westminster, even prefer David Ford.[/quote]

    Amen brother! But funny that the UUP candidate that could be facing McCrea is an apparent homophobe. Fate is not without a sense of irony lol lol.

    [quote]I wonder whether we can read anything into the fact that some seats are agreed now, and other seats have not been agreed, and no Conservatives have been stood yet.[/quote]

    Yes, i would say the areas left have conservative candidates contesting. Good, because the UUP candidate in my con – East Antrim is kind of uninspiring, imo

  • New Blue

    #6 Greenflag

    Thanks for the wishes, it is appreciated. Hopefully this election can be the start of something new.

    For obvious reasons I will not be posting again for the forseeable future.

    Bill

  • Garza

    Good luck Bill!

    And good answer to my question btw on facebook 😉

  • Driftwood

    Comrade
    Alliance have made a point that they are NOT unionist, citing your republican membership, remember the letter?
    By outfield I meant in electoral terms. Purely anecdotal but several people from East Belfast who I work with would be Alliancey. Not just because they don’t like Robinson(s). Ringland is manna from heaven for that constituency. But you obviously know the constituency better. Naomi would be preferable to Robinson but ‘the wisdom of crowds’ etc.

    Garza- my Mystic meg prediction is for Sammy to return there. Having met him reguarly, he’s the only DUP guy I actually like and respect. Sometimes you gotta say OK. Sylvia must be odds on for North Down also.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    slug,
    Goldsmith has NOT been in the cabinet…which is why I said WILL BE a disaste.
    My point being that doctors make very bad Health Secretary
    Bankers make poor City ministers

  • LabourNIman

    the saga continues…

    If Alliance put Long up as their westminster candidate all we will hear about is how she is willing to triple job. The party should be building the party in East Belfast, not continually shoving her down our throats.

    Vance will get destroyed in East Belfast.

  • Marcionite

    Will the SDLP do their usual thing and help the IRA supporter by standing aside in FST if there is an agreed unionist standing? They did it twice before for Robert Sands and then his election agent Owen Carron. Yeah, SDLP, a real anti terrorist party for sure.

    Have the TUV announced it’s candidates yet?

  • Harry J

    driftwood, again you provide nothing to show robinson as sectarian

    Please give me an example where discrminated against catholics

    Ringland supports a leader who is in the Orange Order, which according to th tories is a huge sectarian organistation.

    It seems ringland has no problems supporting sectarianism

  • martin r

    FLASH HARRY IS STANDING FOR ELECTION!!!!!

    This is absolutely brilliant, ………..seriously. I hope he gets elected, this is exactly the sort of change we need to politics in this wee place.

    A tv presenter, a rugby player, and a Freddie Mercury impersonator, beat that DUP!

  • Comrade Stalin

    Alliance have made a point that they are NOT unionist, citing your republican membership, remember the letter?

    Yes, and ?

    By outfield I meant in electoral terms.

    In electoral terms, Naomi is a success. “outfield” is a strange way to describe someone who is a mainstream and consistently popular politician in the constituency.

    Purely anecdotal but several people from East Belfast who I work with would be Alliancey. Not just because they don’t like Robinson(s). Ringland is manna from heaven for that constituency. But you obviously know the constituency better. Naomi would be preferable to Robinson but ‘the wisdom of crowds’ etc.

    I don’t know East Belfast that well actually, but I do know about Naomi’s profile there. I also know that Northern Ireland constituencies, with the exception of North Down, are boringly predictable. Candidates with a good profile and a history of constituency work do well. This is one of the main reasons why the UUP/SDLP were supplanted by the DUP/SF. The incumbents were just too damn lazy.

    If Alliance put Long up as their westminster candidate all we will hear about is how she is willing to triple job. The party should be building the party in East Belfast, not continually shoving her down our throats.

    I’d have to check, but I think Alliance’s policy is that people have to stand down from one position if they are elected to two legislatures. Personally speaking, though, it’s notable that people in places like East Belfast and East Antrim have been endorsing having the same representative in two legislatures for some time now. I don’t have a problem with it, and I don’t think the electorate do either.

  • BryanS

    Delighted to hear through this and other posts that Boyd black has moved from the lunatic left to something approaching normal politics. Well done boyd – better late than never.

  • granni trixie

    Naomi has the distinction of being somebody who worked her way up the ranks from a primary school in East Belfast (was it Dee St?) to Lord Mayor of Belfast – Dick Wittington couldnt have asked for for a better story.

    Plus – she is awesome doing politics!

  • RobertEmmett

    is there anybody left in Sinn fein in east Fermanagh?

  • Framer

    Presumably this means another (unionist) vacancy on the NI Human Rights Commission when Daphne Trimble is elected, following Jonathan Bell becoming an MLA.

    That would leave 5 nationalists and no unionists on a body that was statutorily obliged to be representative of the community.

  • Drumlins Rock

    best job would be just to scrap the commission Framer.

  • cynic47

    Martin R

    The three you name could be an interesting trio in Parliament. One could ask the tough questions, one could charm them with music and song and if all that fails the third could knock the crap out of them!

  • cynic47

    Mr Vance might well get wiped in EB but every vote he gets will probably be at the expense of Mr Robinson. In a STV election that wouldn’t be too damaging but in a first past the post situation every vote could be vital in a tight count. This election is not just interesting in relation to who actually wins the seats but will also be unique in the fact that certain parties or candidates being on the ballot papers could allow a few surprises to be sprung. God help us!!!

  • Drumlins Rock

    Cynic, I actually think Dawn Purvis if she stands will do Peter more damage and possibly out poll the TUV.

  • LabourNIman

    ‘I’d have to check, but I think Alliance’s policy is that people have to stand down from one position if they are elected to two legislatures. Personally speaking, though, it’s notable that people in places like East Belfast and East Antrim have been endorsing having the same representative in two legislatures for some time now. I don’t have a problem with it, and I don’t think the electorate do either.’

    But she hasn’t.. she is Mayor (a full time post) in Belfast and a MLA.

    I personally have no problem with her, however this is either a ego exercise by Ms Long or your party is so desperate to grab every last vote that they won’t let someone else break through the ranks and stand in the election. Speaks volumes.

    I would like to see Dawn Purvis get a good result in the election. Has she announced she will be standing?

  • iluvni

    As usual the local Unionist MPs demonstrate their effectiveness in the Commons. Not a single one there during Energy and Climate Change questions.
    No DUP double jobbers nor the Lady.

  • This is one of the main reasons why the UUP/SDLP were supplanted by the DUP/SF. The incumbents were just too damn lazy.

    I think that’s more the narrative, rather than what was actually true.

  • PaddyReilly

    Yeah, SDLP, a real anti terrorist party for sure.

    All major parties in Ireland were founded by insurgents or have broken away from a party founded by insurgents. Unionists will of course conveniently forget to mention in mixed company that they go back to the UVF, but in private they are cheer leaders for the Larne gun-smugglers.

    Fianna Fáil is the party of the anti-treaty IRA; SF of the Provisional IRA.

    But what is important is not what you were when you started, but what you are now.

  • Alan N/Ards

    I can’t believe that people believe the SDLP are a non sectarian party. This is the party that is calling for protestant citizens to be discrimanated when applying for jobs in the police.

  • Harry J

    A tv presenter, a rugby player, and a Freddie Mercury impersonator, beat that DUP!
    Posted by martin r on Feb 25, 2010 @ 08:53 AM

    aint gonna happen , UUP vote has fallen since the Euro elction, the DUP will safely hold these seats

  • Drumlins Rock

    considering the only vote since then was in
    Lurgan not sure where your figures are from (and the tele survey was highly suspect to put it mildly before you quote it)

  • mcclafferty

    Comment #8 Sam

    I too believe McGeough would be the only candidate to beat him in South Tyrone.

  • Gonga Din

    I would love to see TC 2nd BATT Royal Irish Rangers(SAS)stand, a good down the line chap.

    I hope the DUP get a good digging.

    Hate them.

    I’m born and bred Cumberland St,Shankill Rd.

    Bring back Jonny McQuade.

  • Alan N/Ards,

    So was Martin Luther King a racist then for supporting affirmative action?

  • mcclafferty

    It was the likes of McQuade that put the IRA back in business!

  • mcclafferty

    Alan, not quite sure I understand your question?

  • claire

    Marcionite, post #28, the SDLP has contested the last seven consecutive Westminster elections in Fermanagh South Tyrone constituency, 1983, 1986, 1987, 1992, 1997, 2001 and 2005. It will stand again in 2010.

    Your remark that the “SDLP do their usual thing and help the IRA supporter by standing aside in FST” is wrong and either prompted by your own ignorance or your maliciousness.

    Please now have the decency to withdraw this slur.

  • granni trixie

    Claire: was thinking that myself.
    Marcionite, do the right thing.

  • Dunumian

    Any word on SOUTH BELFAST

  • The Original Sam Maguire

    That’s not exactly what I meant Mcclafferty but regardless

  • 9th of june, can’t wait to see what freaks are put in this time 🙂