BBC carry Wilson’s and Finucane’s denials…

If you want to keep tabs on the latest twists and turns Gerry Adams’ story regarding his brother Liam, check out Pete’s invaluable running timeline… As mentioned below the BBC have finally got round to reporting the Sunday Tribune story and they lead with the Cahill story (the one that never had any legal complications around it) and denials from two former IRA men cited in the original story. Neither are pressed on the specific allegations made by the victim about their behaviour at the time

  • Well that sounds about right for the beeb!

    At least it is a start and who knows they may be looking deeper than we yet know.

  • jtwo

    I’m guessing the lack of pressing is because the Wilson and Finucane stuff wasn’t an interview but a statement that their solicitors issued to all media. Unless they missed Slugger off their distribution list.

  • Eileen Calder

    Ms Cahill is clear that the investigation was carried out by “The Army” not Sinn Fein – and it was in that capacity she spoke to them.

  • Mick Fealty

    Corrected Eileen.

  • Damian O’Loan

    As Anthony McIntyre has noted on the Pensive Quill, and as I tried to suggest on Sunday, “M [who raped Cahill and sexually assaulted two of her relatives, aged 17 and 14] was a member of CRJ.” The protocol in place does not ensure that:

    a) he no longer has any connection with the justice system;
    b) CRJ (or NIA, its loyalist equivalent) are no longer involved in cases of domestic violence, abuse or sexual abuse, rape and other serious crimes;
    c) any involvement they may have had in such cases is fully documented;
    d) particpants in restorative justice processes (where the victim meets the offender) are free to refuse involvement;
    e) those exiled from certain areas by paramilitaries are free to return.

    CRJ and NIA receive funding from the taxpayer. Belfast’s Rape Crisis Centre does not.

  • jack

    Eileen ,are the army /sf not linked ?

  • wild turkey

    ‘lovely system of justice coming our way…. ‘

    ah so that explains the new kangaroo house being constructed at Belfast Zoo. The sign at the site says ‘Confidence Building in Progress’. hmmm

  • Moderators

    lorraine,

    Details of your last post will be sent to Mick for review. Please do not post allegations of that nature again.

  • Ulick

    Damian,

    “M [who raped Cahill and sexually assaulted two of her relatives, aged 17 and 14] was a member of CRJ.”

    Anthony McIntyre doesn’t mention that M was involved with them ten years ago, before they got funding or official recognition. I may be wrong, but I think about 4 or 5 years ago there were a set of strict criteria introduced concerning how they operate and who could be members of the panels.

    Obviously one would hope that if M has been on the run since 2000 and Ms Cahill reported her allegations to the PSNI, then that he isn’t involved with them anymore.

  • Damian O’Loan

    Ulick,

    You are wrong. The “strict criteria” you mention, introduced in 2006, do not exclude any of the concerns I listed above. You are thinking of the protocol I referred to.

    “Obviously one would hope that if M has been on the run since 2000 and Ms Cahill reported her allegations to the PSNI, then that he isn’t involved with them anymore.”

    Particularly when public money is being used, “one would hope” is not good enough. Look where Liam Adams ended up.

  • Mick Fealty

    Lorraine, just to reiterate the Moderators remarks, another breach like that and it will be a straight red.

  • Jimmy_Sands

    “Anthony McIntyre doesn’t mention that M was involved with them ten years ago, before they got funding or official recognition.”

    So nothing to worry about then?

  • jack

    THE C.R.J.have been ‘imposed’ on the areas they operate in ,some gobshites have been attracted by the lure of the deputy sheriffs tin badge syndrome, in the ‘ areas’ they are known as the H.V.P.s High visibility provos, in others they are called the P MEN .Have we not had enough of locally raised militia’s with a political agenda ?

  • Kathy C

    posted by Kathleen Collins

    I have searched but haven’t found what I am looking for…. is there any reference that Joe Cahill knew what had allegedly happened to his niece?

  • KathyC

    Yes. He was told, a long time after, he said she should have told him that he would have advised her to go to the RUC.

  • KathyC

    Silly of me I meant to tell you to look on the Sunday Tribune Website.

    It give all the details

  • paul kielty

    Just a few questions I feel need answered:-

    Why did Ms Cahill(MC) not approach the then RUC with her complaint?

    Why did MC not approach social services with her complaint?

    She states her belief that her alleged attacker was facilitated in going to Donegal, by whom?

    She said she wanted the man returned to Belfast, for what reason?

    She says she felt let down because nothing happened after she met GA in 2006, what exactly did she want GA to do?

    Is there an ongoing PSNI investigation at present, and are charges imminent?

    Clarity please anyone?

  • paul kielty

    Still waiting!!!

    I’m giving up on this thread!

  • paul kielty

    I will have a go, but the answers are already on the site.
    a – she wanted it dealt with ‘in house’
    b- handnt everyone been ‘warned off’?
    c – ahh, now, I know why I would want it, not sure, but surely IRA were supposed to punish offenders
    d – again I know what I would want him to do, perhaps it goes back to the ‘punishment’ question.
    e – yes, I think papers are being ‘sat on’ by PPS.

  • Stewart

    ‘she wanted it dealt with ‘in house’’

    Was that in the Tribune?

  • Kathy C

    posted by Kathleen Collins

    Hi ppippakin, Thank you. To be honest, I’ve read the story but the entire ordeal is so very upsetting…I guess it just didn’t register. Maybe I was hoping that Joe Cahill would have been a better uncle to his niece than Gerry was to his.

  • Stewart

    The lady, agreed to and went through, the charade of meeting activists, she has said she was disappinted with the result, and has also issued a statement disputing the content of the meeting as described by the activists. I preferred to say ‘in house’

    KathyC

    I know, I found it very upsetting. Joe Cahill was getting old then, he did say she would have been better off going to the RUC.