We wuz robbed

Gosh, only in Northern Ireland can a hand ball in soccer be seen as a divisive issue. I have little knowledge and less interest in the subject of the Henry hand job, but what I do find fascinating is the on-line response to it. At one point this evening, I got an invitation to join an on-line petition group to demand a replay of the match. I think there were about 500 names added to the list a couple of hours ago. It was quite amazing to note that 140,000 people had joined by 10 pm. In fact, it’s hard to keep up with the numbers of petitioners as it seems to be quite a lively subject. I wonder if the power of the internet will have any impact in this debate? UPDATE: Well the petition has over 200,000 signatories at this point in time. I don’t imagine it will have an impact but the discontent over this result continues to grow.

  • Fabianus

    Miss Fitz

    I’m all for this. It sort of deflects attention, to a small extent then, from the unhealthy and seemingly universal fascination with soccer.

    When did this soccer mania begin? And why has it even laid claim to our news bulletins? Since when is soccer NEWS? And should it be?

    I think we (the cultured folk) should be told.

  • Drumlins Rock

    Fabianus, you have to admitt it is preferable to starting wars as a way of sorting out national egos.
    Anyways its a great story mate, pitting wee Ireland, God love them, against haughty France (thank goodness it wasnt England! dread to think of the consequences) with the whole world cup campaign hanging on that match, and in the dying minutes the best known footballer in Europe cheats! stealing the result, if it was a film no-one would believe it!
    I dont follow any sport really, and wouldnt be an Ireland fan (still would have cheered them on in SA if they got through though) but I have been following the story all day, and almost signed the petition at one stage, mite yet lol.

  • Miss Fitz

    Funny, I was just looking at Mack’s earlier post about another petition on this vital and important issue. The petition there stands about 4 thousand votes. It says a lot about Facebook that even in the hour since I posted the above article, another 10,000 people have signed up.

  • I hear Sinn Fein / IRA are claiming that the hand-ball by Henry was due to Loyalist collusion, as the Frenchman was wearing a red, white and blue rig….they are now calling the it ‘The Hand of Prod’

  • joeCanuck

    Better than starting wars?
    Egypt has just recalled their ambassador from Algeria for “discussions” following their loss to Algeria in the World qualifiers last night.
    What a hoot!

    Submit word is “club” hehehehe.

  • PT Barnum

    I got it wrong.
    There’s more than one born every minute.

  • Mack

    Miss Fitz –

    The numbers on the petition site linked in that post are 1 hour out of data (cached) and have been growing exponentially. It’s certainly possible, if the server can keep up, that they are much higher.

  • Mack

    Well, make that was growing exponentially, looking at the times involved. If ever there was a demo of the power of facebook as social media – that was it..

  • Mason Powell

    “We wuz robbed.” (?)

    What you mean “we”, green woman?

  • smcgiff

    “they are now calling the it ‘The Hand of Prod’”

    No. Not they’re not. And if that’s the best joke you can come up with it looks like my stitches are safe.

  • Intelligence Insider

    The referee’s decision is final, though I have every bit as much sympathy with ROI supporters as I’m sure they had with supporters of England in 1986.

  • Fabianus

    I do so wish soccer was returned to the proles, where it belongs. It’s very tedious when “serious” people like Will Crawley waste valuable airtime discussing boyz’ games, as he did on yesterday’s Talkback.

  • borderline

    Can the prods get on message again please?

    The way it works is that you wish the ROI team all the best as we wish the NI team all the best.

    We all know what we really feel, but c’mon, get with the process.

  • KieranJ

    At 0615 this morning, warships of the Irish navy began shelling French military positions along the coast of Normandy. RTE is reporting that Irish troops were offloaded immediately following the naval operation and have begun a forced march toward St. Lo.

    Le Monde is reporting that French forces are en route to the country’s northernmost province in an attempt to stem the Irish attack.

    More on this as it comes in.

  • Danny O’Connor

    All Irishmen are now going to stop shaving in protest until henry gets the sack from promoting razor blades

  • “I hear Sinn Fein / IRA are claiming that the hand-ball by Henry was due to Loyalist collusion, as the Frenchman was wearing a red, white and blue rig….they are now calling the it ‘The Hand of Prod’

    As an ROI supporter, I have to admit that’s a funny one, RangersFan.

  • oneill

    No word on the matter yet from Bazza McElduff?

  • Jimmy

    Well, Ireland, that’s what you get for giving us Jedward..
    Karma’s a bitch isnt it.

  • Mack

    We should have a whip round on facebook to teach them French. That’d do the trick!

  • Jimmy

    Its ironic that a Frenchman handled a football, seeing as since 1940 the French have always had thier hands raised.

  • greagoir o frainclin

    OK folks get over it, we don’t won’t to be going on about it for the next 20 years as England did over the Maradonna incident.

    Look, the French won the match fair and square, according to FIFA and the result stands!

    So let’s hope they go all the way and win the World Cup.

    Henri is one of the greatest players alive today and a great role model for kids.

    Vive le France! Vive le Republique!

    …..Jedward to win the X Factor!

  • Moochin Photoman

    wasn’t it

    “the hand of frog” ?

  • Seamus – Belfast

    Tis over now and its time to shave again. Time now to go back again and support the French as I always do when Ireland is out.

  • Mack

    It’s made it onto Sky News too..

    http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/Hand-Of-Gaul-No-Replay-Of-Ireland-France-World-Cup-Play-Off-After-Henry-Handball-Says-Fifa/Article/200911315459101


    The incident all over the radio again this morning. I’m with Tom Dunne 😉

    Why should we stop rattling the cage? You have the incredibly blatant cheating and the rule changing incident together, coupled with FIFA’s attempt to brush the whole thing under the carpet (re- their website).

  • Mack

    In today’s Indo –

    Professor Mike McNamee, an expert on ethics in sport at Swansea University and founder of the British Philosophy of Sport Association, said: “What Henry did was obviously wrong. The issue is whether justice was served and clearly it was not. In that case, there should be some form of restorative justice which FIFA is prepared to use, such as ordering the game to be replayed, with or without Henry, and at a neutral venue.

    “We must also be careful about the message this sends to wider society. Shakespeare said ‘lillies that fester, smell far worse than weeds’. Thierry Henry is one of the most graceful players to have lived and a role model to millions of people around the world. We should be calling a spade a spade — these players have an obligation to honesty that overrides their self-serving commitments.”

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/a-real-matter-of-conscience-and-morality-for-french-1949364.html

  • Mack

    Fancy yerself as a Theirry Henry – have a go

    http://www.jeu-de-main.com/

  • greagoir o frainclin

    According to FIFA, it’s all about winning, so fuck fair play!

  • greagoir o frainclin

    Fair Play – Noble words and all that but they mean fuck all.

  • Brit

    1. Henry is, and always has been a git (I speak as a wholly unbiased Tottenham fan who had to endure his provocative celebrations after goals against us at WHL and Highbury – as then was).

    2. The hypocrisy is amazing given that this is the man who graceslessly complained about Barcelona cheating when Arsenal were beating on the CL final a few years back.

    3. There is absolultely no way the result is going to be rescinded. It would set a precedent, open a can of worms whereby any result could be re-opened or challenged if any diving/cheating was identified.

    4. Are you all going to support England now?

  • Seimi

    ‘1. Henry is, and always has been a git (I speak as a wholly unbiased Tottenham fan who had to endure his provocative celebrations after goals against us at WHL and Highbury – as then was).’

    No he wasn’t, he was, and still is, and always will be, an Arsenal legend, and his goal celebrations, especially those against that bunch of idiots down the road, where brilliant 🙂

    ‘2. The hypocrisy is amazing given that this is the man who graceslessly complained about Barcelona cheating when Arsenal were beating on the CL final a few years back.’

    The hypocrisy may be amazing, but if he says Barcelona cheated to deny Arsenal – then he’s right 🙂

    ‘3. There is absolultely no way the result is going to be rescinded. It would set a precedent, open a can of worms whereby any result could be re-opened or challenged if any diving/cheating was identified.’

    Agreed, however Henry/Les Bleus should be punished in some way.

    ‘4. Are you all going to support England now?’

    No.

    Submit word – respect – whoulda thunk it? 🙂

  • Brit

    Well clearly we aren’t going to agree about Mr Henry as man, though I have to concede that he was one of the best players to grace the PL.

    I would, however, imagine that the Irish Arsenal fans (both Irish Irish and second/third gen. Irish in London) are going to feel a certain degree of conflict over this incident

  • Brit

    But seriously who are you going to “support”?

    I supported Holland in the Euros when England failed to qualify then switching to anyone other than Germany or France.

  • greagoir o frainclin

    Handballs happen in the game. Folk should just accept it! Henri is an excellent player and an excellent role model for children ……and shavers!

  • Seimi

    ‘I would, however, imagine that the Irish Arsenal fans (both Irish Irish and second/third gen. Irish in London) are going to feel a certain degree of conflict over this incident’

    Absolutely. The guy, as I mentioned, is an Arsenal legend, but what he did on Wednesday was shitty. I don’t even mean the handball, it was the lies he told afterwards, about it being an accident, that really get me.

    ‘But seriously who are you going to “support”?’

    Now that Ireland are out, I won’t ‘support’ anyone in particular. I will enjoy the matches as they come along, and will have my favourites in each one. As to who I would like to see winning it – Spain? Argentina? Brazil? I haven’t decided yet. But not England. I know I know, now I’ll be accused of being anti-English, but I don’t really care about that. I just don’t want England to win it. Maybe that partly comes from being Irish, but I also don’t want to see Germany or Italy win it, so what does that make me? I don’t think England are good enough to win it anyway. Individually, they are some of the best footballers around, but as a team I’m not convinced.

  • Erasmus

    The breaks went with us with the rugby and against us with the soccer. C’est la vie.

  • borderline

    Brit,

    I will support England in the Finals.

    Unless they are playing a country with which Ireland has a greater affinity, obviously.

  • Marty McG

    Hi Miss Fitz….

    Perhaps ‘Anree’ thought he was playing Bog Ball or as incorrectly called ‘Gaelic football’, seeing he was playing the incorrectly named ‘Ireland’, i.e. the correctly named Republic of Ireland.

  • Marty McG

    Hi Miss Fitz….

    Perhaps ‘Anree’ thought he was playing Bog Ball or as incorrectly called ‘Gaelic football’, seeing he was playing the incorrectly named ‘Ireland’, i.e. the correctly named Republic of Ireland.

  • Prionsa Eoghann

    >>But seriously who are you going to “support”?<< Abbreviated to ABE I believe, now including the French, thus ABE+F..................for fuckers! How can FIFA expect to be taken seriously over all their 'fair play' guff if they allow such a blatant and obvious infraction to go unpunished. In all the fuss we have forgotten the other fuckers dive. Bunch of cheating bastards the lot of them!

  • RepublicanStones

    ‘Are you all going to support England now?’

    As I’ve said many a time, nobody supports the schoolyard bully in a fight. Sure watching the hype surrounding England build and then spectacularly fall goes a little way to alleviating the hurt of 800 yrs 😉

    ‘I would, however, imagine that the Irish Arsenal fans (both Irish Irish and second/third gen. Irish in London) are going to feel a certain degree of conflict over this incident’

    As a gooner, I would have to agree, but im pretty sure some of the people building the gallows for henry at the minute would be rubbing their hands with glee if the shoe was on the other foot.

    A spurs man Brit, perhaps that explains our polar viewpoints 😉

  • Prionsa Eoghann

    Pardon me but I just noticed Miss Fitz was back in the fray/fold. Good stuff!

    Pardon my ignorance, just shows that I am a man of substance and not influenced by personality. Aye right!

  • AW

    Fine words butter no parsnips