“It isn’t that we’re hugely concerned..”

An odd iol report records Northern Ireland deputy First Minister Sinn Féin’s Martin McGuinness, MP, MLA, repeating what he was told at the North-South Ministerial Council meeting on Monday. There’s an associated Sinn Féin press statement. And this from the iol report

Sinn Féin president Gerry Adams said his party had called the meeting with Mr Cowen to help keep a focus on political developments in the North during the economic crisis. But he insisted they weren’t overly worried the Republic’s finances had eclipsed the peace process. “It isn’t that we’re hugely concerned, it is just necessary to keep a focus, it has to be business as usual on all of these other matters,” he said.

Well, we can’t have the The Process™ being eclipsed by an economic crisis. Either there or here. And those “other matters” discussed at the meeting? The yet-to-be-requested devolution of policing and justice powers. The “lost in the long grass” Bill of Rights. And an undeliverable, by those involved, Irish Language Act.. There was, apparently, also another North/South ministerial meeting where the Northern Ireland Regional Development Minister Sinn Féin MP for Newry & Armagh, Conor Murphy, was due to complain that Newry wasn’t included in Project Kelvin.. [What about those Irish chickens? – Ed] Cuckoo, cuckoo.. Or is that blasphemy.. Adds The SDLP have a meeting to “take stock” too.

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  • John O’Connell

    Gerry is trying to outdo the unionists at this key time as the marching season reaches its peak.

  • Another voyeuristic and almost incomprehensible post delivered with zealous fanaticism by our resident Fenian-watcher.

    Also, your devotion to all things poultry is admirable. Good on you, sir. Forget what the sniggerers say, they just don’t understand. You live your life how you want to – and don’t let anyone else tell you otherwise!

    In all seriousness, that “post” was very difficult to follow.

  • Jo

    I am sorry that this sort of post discredits blogging as a legitimate and sensible commentary on politics.

    But then I do believe that this form of political intervention is doomed because of the nature of those who become involved in it – and in that, of course, I include myself. I refer, self-consciously to the *online commentaries* referenced in Private Eye.

    Either no blogger knows of this publication, or else they’re too embarrassed to admit how representative the comments published there actually are. Hence the less frequent postings by yours truly. I do indeed prefer to have a life.

  • Pete Baker

    Jo

    I don’t tend to do op-eds.

    If you want one of those you’ll have to wait for someone else to come along.

    In the meantime, the references are linked for a reason.

  • dougal mcguire

    What the f*ck was that all about? Can we get a translation into English from that horrible Geekspeak / Irish nationalist-bashing original posting?and can someone please move Pete Baker to the front of the sense of humour transplant list

  • michael

    They would like you to blaaaaawwg for them.

  • Dave

    “What the f*ck was that all about?”

    Basically, the Shinners said that the need of the Irish government to focus their attention on the greatest threat that the Irish State has ever faced should not get in the way of the (obviously more important) need to pamper a bunch of useless begging bowl wavers in Northern Ireland who can’t even manage to resolve their own minor problems. Pete Baker drew attention to this and lightly mocked it in his own inimitable way, and thereby drew the usual whinges that masquerade as objections to how the information is presented when what the whingers really object to is that the information is presented at all. Does that clear things up for you?

  • Dave

    By the way, in the spirit of an all-Ireland economy, shouldn’t the Shinners be demanding that the toxic assets that are to be transferred to NAMA be shared jointly between the two states? At the very least, they should be demanding that Stormont assumes responsibility for the 20 or so billion of toxic assets that are owed on property in Northern Ireland.

    Oddly, there is not a sound from the little bunnies when it comes to making demands that debt from the Irish state be shared with Her Majesty’s dominion of Northern Ireland, but listen to them loudly squeal when it comes to making demands that wealth, investment, jobs, disposable income, taxes, etc, should be transferred from the Irish state into that Her Majesty’s jurisdiction. It is clear where their loyalties lie.

  • Indeed, Dave. Your interpretation of Baker’s latest bizarre, post-modern and irreverent musing inspired by (as you like to call it) his “inimitable way” is, quite obviously, correct. It’s just a great pity that he doesn’t have any hint of comedic talent to quite pull it off though.

    It’s also quite worrying to see you morph into John O’Connell before our very eyes: not all Taigs are PSF-loving apparatchiks, gleefully rejoicing at every sacred word uttered by Grissly – some of us hate the party as much as the next ultra-unionist bigot. So do think on before your next sweeping generalisation directed at all those who have the audacity to question the integrity and motive behind every sacred letter typed under the guise of Pete Baker.

    After some of his most recent, and invariably unsubstantiated, stunts (including ingeniously linking the attacks on the Romas with the GAA and his voyeuristic fascination with Larry Zaitschek) his spewing deserves careful scrutiny, however irreverent or inimitable his style may be – lawsuits pending, of course…

  • Dave

    I didn’t say that [i]all[/i] nationalists vote for the Shinners. I’m fully aware that it is [i]only a majority[/i] of nationalists who them who vote for them. I fail to see that can fall under the definition of a ‘sweeping generalisation’ when it applies to a verifiable majority and is not, therefore, an abstraction from a general rule.

    All voters, however, vote for parties who offer only the economics of the begging bowl. That’s a shame because Northern Ireland has more than enough talent to become a very prosperous region.

    If Ireland is as one as the Shinners claim when making demands that wealth (from Ireland) be shared throughout the island (i.e. with Northern Ireland), then it is also as one when it comes to sharing debt (from Ireland) throughout the island. It’s nonsense, of course, to claim that “Crossgar is as Irish as Clonmel” when it comes to the matter of sovereign debt, and it is equally nonsensical to claim that (as the Shinners did regarding Irish chickens) when it comes to sovereign investment. Yet the Shinners don’t apply their own wayward logic when it comes to matters that would displease their masters (the British government) – they only apply it when their masters will gain an economic advantage.

    I’m not going to defend Pete Baker because there is no case to answer. If you don’t like his posting style, why don’t you skip his posts? I have an email from a former employee of mine that simply says: “Hi, —-. Just a short note to let you how much you suck hairy balls. It’s quite a lot actually.” I thought that was hilarious, but why bother sending it?

  • Dave

    Typo: “Hi,——. Just a short note to let you [b]know[/b] how much you suck hairy balls. It’s quite a lot actually.”

    It’s a shame to ruin a good punchline. 😉

  • fin

    Dave,
    “the greatest threat that the Irish State has ever faced” …..really, guess history wasn’t you’re strong point in school

    “they should be demanding that Stormont assumes responsibility for the 20 or so billion of toxic assets that are owed on property in Northern Ireland” …..meaning the property is now owned by the state, the amount of the loan is 20B, there are assets ye know

    “It’s nonsense, of course, to claim that “Crossgar is as Irish as Clonmel” when it comes to the matter of sovereign debt, and it is equally nonsensical to claim that (as the Shinners did regarding Irish chickens) when it comes to sovereign investment” ………no its not, its about getting people to see an all island economy (to go with the all Ireland infrastructure)

  • John O’Connell

    It’s also quite worrying to see you morph into John O’Connell before our very eyes: not all Taigs are PSF-loving apparatchiks, gleefully rejoicing at every sacred word uttered by Grissly – some of us hate the party as much as the next ultra-unionist bigot.

    I don’t hate Sinn Fein. I don’t hate Gerry Adams either. I hate their philosophy which conflicts in so many ways with the Christian way.

  • Märsta

    Pete

    I have tried to read your posts, really, I have. I know it is probably my fault but I simply can’t focus on what you are trying to say because of all the hyperlinks.

    Please try to remember that not everyone can follow your train of thought (and subsequent multiple cross referencing).

    I’m sure your aware of the KISS system?

  • Märsta

    Just counted them;18 hyperlinks. Gott in himmel!

  • not worthy

    “I have tried to read your posts, really, I have. I know it is probably my fault but I simply can’t focus on what you are trying to say because of all the hyperlinks.” And it’s always the same points repeated ad nauseum.

    “Just counted them;18 hyperlinks. Gott in himmel!”

    Sssh, that makes him feel very important and intelligent. He is not, I repeat NOT a quacking bore (TM).

  • John O’Connell

    Notify me of follow-up comments?

    Is anyone else finding that this facility is not working and they’re not being emailed about comments made after theirs?

  • Micky

    Yes John, I detect the treacherous, Satanic hand of Gerry Adams at work here. What sayeththee, my gentle Lamb? Id love to discuss your scholarship with you in depth. Do you fancy a friendly pint down in The Dungloe or how about luncheon in The Mandarin Palace soon afternoon soon?

  • John O’Connell

    Micky

    I detect the treacherous, Satanic hand of Gerry Adams at work here

    one that has a hand in letting his brothers starve themselves to death for his political gain.

    As to your kind offers, I’ll have to give them a miss as I don’t trust anyone who would know a Satanic hand when he sees it. But thanks for asking.

  • RepublicanStones

    ‘Is anyone else finding that this facility is not working and they’re not being emailed about comments made after theirs? ‘

    Lets be honest John…..who can seriously follow up any of your comments, its like expecting Billy Connolly to warm up for Patrick Kielty 😉

  • Micky

    But John, ’tis only through your virtuous teachings that I have begun to realise and recognise the duplicitous Satanic treachery of Adams. And you too have repeatedly asserted His Satanic virtues, therefore am I to understand that You, the Lamb of God, don’t trust yourself? I really think that as should meet up to discuss this further as well as your other revelations and to further behold your beautiful mind. When are you publishing your next work and what is it about, my Lord?

  • Dave

    “really, guess history wasn’t you’re strong point in school”

    Kindly name the threat that you think is greater than the one that “the Irish State” presently faces. I think my knowledge of history must be as deficient as described because damned if I can think of one.

    “there are assets ye know”

    There are? That must be why some bright spark added “assets” to the term “toxic assets.” Now that we have established (thanks to your helpful intervention) that there are assets, why don’t you enlighten me about what toxic assets are? Is it, like, someone accidently spilled Radium all over them or is it, like, an asset that has a realisation value that is considerably less than its value on a balance sheet?

    “no its not, its about getting people to see an all island economy (to go with the all Ireland infrastructure)”

    Oh right, so it’s sort of like a PR campaign?