“Do you need percentages?”

On the Politics Show European campaign special, the DUP candidate, Diane Dodds, managed to unite all three incumbents, the chairman of the meeting, Jim Fitzpatrick, and the audience.. and all with one letter from Defra..

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  • Pancho

    TUV, double standards? Get outta here!

    If Dodds is so big into this unionist malarkey then why did she stand?

    Did anybody from the UC think of telling Nich it’s maybe a good time to let it go. Brussels is a bit boring anyway. Sure, Parsley was their next choice. He’s perfect for them, he’s mentioning Trimble already. He does have almost the same name as the “biggest” unionist and most UC voters don’t have the best eyesight these days anyway. Like every Alliance member he is a right-wing unionist painted yellow, he just don’t wanna say much as he has found a cosy place on the fence. Oh Alliance, Nicky Clegg would be proud.

    Alban just seems a bit tired. Something must be coming up because he was scared to be dangerous. What did the SDLP do, he seemed like a really good candidate until then.

    i’ve been told that Allister is the only candidate he is working for our farmers and fishermen. Thats a bit silly of the other candidates not to do that. The Greens can’t hate cows that much. I wonder what he has done? Him and his magical powers of persuasion can be awesome in europe without any friends! Just look at the PUP’s influence is in stormount! I can’t move without hearing about that Purvis woman. I know Jim’s odds are even more against him in europe, but shucks he’s awesome. Anybody who talks about themselves in the third person is.

    Does debrun really need to turn up to anything. If people are complaining about the DUP ticket then watch this mamma ride on the Shinners one right to the top of the poll. She really doesn’t say that much but then seems to have done well to people. Is she exempt from abuse? I hope she hasn’t saved a cat from a tree because then I would feel really bad.

    Dodds…..I’m guessing the DUP now wonder where Jeffery’s wife was! Or even Paisley Jnr. Jnr, Bob McCartney. I’ve been told a Mr. Stone was first choice.

    Mr Green, the man everybody blame for problems they probably refuse to believe in. I myself don’t believe that his beard has enough scientific proof to be real, his chin is a part of his head therefore his beard is his head of hair cut short. Duh. The man knows the most about europe, hasn’t a flaw in his manifesto, is positive, likable and wants to bring Northern Irleand forward………..he’s up to something and I don’t like it. I dunno what, but when the Greens unite Ulster with France don’t come crying to me.

  • Pancho

    TUV, double standards? Get outta here!

    If Dodds is so big into this unionist malarkey then why did she stand?

    Did anybody from the UC think of telling Nich it’s maybe a good time to let it go. Brussels is a bit boring anyway. Sure, Parsley was their next choice. He’s perfect for them, he’s mentioning Trimble already. He does have almost the same name as the “biggest” unionist and most UC voters don’t have the best eyesight these days anyway. Like every Alliance member he is a right-wing unionist painted yellow, he just don’t wanna say much as he has found a cosy place on the fence. Oh Alliance, Nicky Clegg would be proud.

    Alban just seems a bit tired. Something must be coming up because he was scared to be dangerous. What did the SDLP do, he seemed like a really good candidate until then.

    i’ve been told that Allister is the only candidate he is working for our farmers and fishermen. Thats a bit silly of the other candidates not to do that. The Greens can’t hate cows that much. I wonder what he has done? Him and his magical powers of persuasion can be awesome in europe without any friends! Just look at the PUP’s influence is in stormount! I can’t move without hearing about that Purvis woman. I know Jim’s odds are even more against him in europe, but shucks he’s awesome. Anybody who talks about themselves in the third person is.

    Does debrun really need to turn up to anything. If people are complaining about the DUP ticket then watch this mamma ride on the Shinners one right to the top of the poll. She really doesn’t say that much but then seems to have done well to people. Is she exempt from abuse? I hope she hasn’t saved a cat from a tree because then I would feel really bad.

    Dodds…..I’m guessing the DUP now wonder where Jeffery’s wife was! Or even Paisley Jnr. Jnr, Bob McCartney. I’ve been told a Mr. Stone was first choice.

    Mr Green, the man everybody blame for problems they probably refuse to believe in. I myself don’t believe that his beard has enough scientific proof to be real, his chin is a part of his head therefore his beard is his head of hair cut short. Duh. The man knows the most about europe, hasn’t a flaw in his manifesto, is positive, likable and wants to bring Northern Irleand forward………..he’s up to something and I don’t like it. I dunno what, but when the Greens unite Ulster with France don’t come crying to me.

  • oracle

    The DUPers should be ashamed of themselves, they briefed Dodds with the wrong information, everytime she opened her trap she looked completely stupid.
    She’s a hard worker on the ground and welled liked in her local area but the party made a complete arse of her on prime TV.

    I think Allister just got elected

  • oracle

    What about a political party with Caitriona Ruane, Dianne Dodds, Silvis Heron, it could be called “Not a fucking clue party”

  • The Big Man

    “oracle”

    Well liked NOT to get elected to the Jokes on the
    hill
    Diane Dodds ” swans in ” says the right thing and then disappears to her posh home in County Down

    Diane D thinks the votes are to be counted on 8/5/09 she makes the late Cecil Walker look professional
    I notice in the Daily Telegraph that Mr Mc Crea claimed £10,000.00 for furniture for his second home
    What will happen to the furniture and assets if Mr Mc Crea ceases to be MP for the area?
    The furniture is recently purchased and should last a long time bearing in mind that these second homes are only just spasmodically

  • salem

    Starry Plough – ALL BRAN ???

    you must be one of the genuis shinners that thought up that wee gem in south armagh !

  • The Big Man

    “oracle”

    Well liked NOT to get elected to the Jokes on the
    hill
    Diane Dodds ” swans in ” says the right thing and then disappears to her posh home in County Down

    Diane D thinks the votes are to be counted on 8/5/09 she makes the late Cecil Walker look professional
    I notice in the Daily Telegraph that Mr Mc Crea claimed £10,000.00 for furniture for his second home
    What will happen to the furniture and assets if Mr Mc Crea ceases to be MP for the area?
    The furniture is recently purchased and should last a long time bearing in mind that these second homes are only just spasmodically

  • AJJM

    The only candidates who came out of that looking better than when they went in were Parsley and Maginness.

    Despite having little of the actual time (Diane Dodds saw to that), no notes, and looking slightly lost over at the side, Parsley’s conclusion was damning.

    Diane Dodds was just nauseating. She had little grasp of the real issues, made false claims, tried to play the victim, laughed loudly at other candidates (ironic, non?), and was generally her usual hypocritical self. I feel sorry for the DUP volunteers, and Deputy Leaders who have to put up with her.

    Jim Allister wasn’t much better. However, he actually has a grasp of the issues, seems to be more principled (however much I disagree with him) and isn’t as deceptive as others.

    Whatever your opinion of them, Bairbre de Brun (whose policies and party are deplorable at best) and Jim Nicholson looked like good candidates in comparison with Allister and Dodds. They had an ounce of respect, and knew the issues. They also appeared to actually be productive in the European Parliament. They looked quite shifty on the expenses issue, which is concerning.

    Maginness was pretty much the same, but was more effective when he spoke, and certainly more ‘on-the-ball’.

    Agnew seems like a nice enough bloke who has strong beliefs, but just seemed like he was out of his depth. If you are out of your depth against the other candidates, what would he be like in Brussels?! That said, I think he’d make a decent enough MLA.

    To conclude, there was no-one inspiring in the slightest. For me, after weeding out people I’d definitely not vote for with a gun to my head (which leaves me with 4). I’ll be voting for who I think will represent me and my personal views best – in terms of party and the personality of the candidate (leaving me with 2).

  • AJJM

    I see alot of people are talking about how Parsley would be a good UCU candidate. He has quite a few Tory links he doesn’t talk about much…

  • A Tosser

    Indeed there is definitely ‘something of the night’ about little boy Parsley. That permanent smirk on his face and his bizarre shaped head are nauseating.

    Not many people know about his privileged, English private
    school upbringing.

    Although, Alliance are hardly the beautiful people’s party are they? Ford.. Long.. ghastly.

  • New Blue

    I wanted to post on this thread yesterday, but it has taken me this long to control my laughing to a level where I can use the keyboard again.

    Dodds is by far the best anti DUP campaigner I have ever seen. The woman has spent the whole of this campaign making her party look dafter than they have ever looked (and that is some achievement).

    On the back of the show, I found Alban to be quite straight and sensible, Parsley would do very well with a good strong political machine behind him and Agnew seems like he knows his stuff.

    Jim Nicholson was, without a doubt, the strongest pro-union (not Unionist) candidate, it was great to see him let the children get on with it, even his ‘party unity’ crack was excellent (DUP TUV are the same party after all).

    It surprises me but, for my first party election I believe I am going;

    1 Jim Nicholson – The days of ‘little Ulster unionism’ are very much over.

    2 Parsley – he will make a very successful CU candidate one day.

    3 Maginness – I’m shocked, but I think the SDLP are getting this “GFA sorts out the UI agenda, let’s get on with the politics” thing.

    I would have voted for Diane Dodds if she had have been standing in ‘Britains got talent’ I think her Majestic Majesty (the Queen, not Dodds), would enjoy watching the ‘shreiking harpy’ (Dodds not the Queen) as part of the variety performance.

  • AJJM

    AT, Parsley is one of the better candidates. What’s really nauseating is the way you are playing the man. Who cares about his upbringing!? That doesn’t impact how good a representative he would be!

  • danielmoran

    tal…. msg 23.
    ‘minority in a 32 county republic’
    out of the sick counties, four are already finished for unionists. coleraine showed what it would be like in ‘our wee country’ if such a thing ever existed.

  • Greenflag

    I this finally looked at this debate . Two words only come to mind

    ‘jayzuz wept’

    If this is what ‘unionism ‘ has to offer – will somebody please turn off the light and lock the door on their way out .

    Now I can see why Nigel has that forever ‘hunted ‘ appearance . But to give Mrs Dodds her due I’d say she could hold her own in a chin wag in Moore St – As for the EU Parliament?

  • cynic

    Silverline

    Haven’t had a good laugh since watching the Politics Show yesterday. Could you rescue my day by repeating once more that you are an Alliance supporter? Ha ha ha ha ho ho ho, sorry just practicing!

  • Forget the rest, Parsleys the best.
    But still not sure about the order of my 2,3,4,5,6 & 7 in the rabble section yet.

  • the original sam maguire

    My vote will be calculated to cause as much chaos as one vote can for Ulster unionism

    1. Babs – she’ll probably top the poll anyways and I think wee Diane might just cry if the old spinster did and she loses the Rev’s proud tradition, so I’ll contribute to that impending sense of despair.

    2. Maginness – very likeable, honest chap. Not only would I love to see two nationalists take the seats on offer but I’d like to see him come third on a personal level.

    3. Allister – to stoke, in any way that I possibly can, the flames raging as a result of the unionist civil war.

    Snap. The fact that Alban comes across as a decent skin is probably the only reason I’d bother giving the SDLP a transfer.

    And as much as I’d like to transfer to Alliance and the Greens, I think the thought of Allister getting over the line as a result of Nationalist transfers would be very very funny.

  • Outsider

    A lot of people on here consider Allister a bigot due to his refusal to have any dealings with Sinn Fein. I think this is an unfair assertion as Sinn Fein is a party that many across NI are uncomfortable with, Allister also doesn’t seem to have any issues with the SDLP or Catholics in general so I don’t understand where the tag ‘bigot’ comes from.

  • Outsider

    Comrade Stalin

    Below is one of the Alliance parties principlies, this in my view makes them a Unionist Partly, albeit a very moderate one.

    The Party’s founding principles were expressly in favour of Northern Ireland remaining part of the United Kingdom, although in contrast to the Unionist parties, this was expressed in socio-economic rather than ethnic terms.

  • Conquistador

    I think outsider they got rid of that.

    As it stands the Alliance Party don’t address the constitutional question.
    The major thing that affects Northern Ireland’s electorate is simply not talked about by the alliance party, making them much cleverer than the likes of us.

  • moyle rover

    Dunno if it means much but when driving through bushmills on saturday saw four dodds posters vandalized, Allisters and Nicholsons appeared to be untouched. DUP in trouble in the heartland?

  • Sam

    Carlsberg don’t do annoying politicians, but if they did….

  • Pancho

    I’ve always thought that the Greens where only the true centre party. Something about the Alliance is very sneaky and Parsley doesn’t help.

  • misogynist

    What about a political party with Caitriona Ruane, Dianne Dodds, Silvis Heron, it could be called “Not a fucking clue party”

    Been there,done that. They were called the Womans’ Coalition

  • Tochais Si­orai­

    Is there anyone in the SDLP who has enough cop on to see that if they thought outside the box in picking a candidate for this election they’d have a right good chance of geting a seat?

  • the original sam maguire

    Is there anyone in the SDLP who has enough cop on to see that if they thought outside the box in picking a candidate for this election they’d have a right good chance of geting a seat?

    Out of curiousity, whom would you suggest?

  • Tochais Si­orai­

    Hi OSM _ It’s actually easier coming out with the glib statements! When I actually thought about it it’s quite hard.

    It obviously would have to be someone who could both cut into SF’s vote & bring out the garden centre Taigs (for want of a better term) & I don’t think the SDLP have anyone to do this on their own bat right now.

    As for actual names – they could go south but I’m not sure parachuting someone from the Republic would work unless they were very high profile – the only name i can come up with off the top of my head is someone like Jarlath Burns who might take a share of SFs vote & who seems to come across as an articulate enough individual.

  • the original sam maguire

    Interesting suggestion TS, however, given Jarlath’s Brother Colman is the outgoing SF Mayor of Newry and Mourne it would be very unlikely.

    That’s the reason I asked, when I thought about it there’s no-one within the SDLP at the moment that could pull it off. Margaret Ritchie could perhaps drop the falloff of the SDLP vote on the strength of her ministerial performance but I don’t think she would make sufficient inroads West of the Bann to take her over the top

  • samuel Jones

    Theres not a chance of Jarleth Burns ever holding elected office in SF because Connor Murphy is scared shitless of him and will veto him. he is not trusted by the south armagh brigrade because he was never ‘active in the movement’
    jim allister is going to win a seat, the DUP vote is collapasing in some areas and even dyed in the wool UUP are giving him a first preference based on his ability, hows maginness doing, the stoops seem to think hes pulling back votes from SF