Following in grandpa’s footsteps…

The future King Billy’s younger brother, Prince Harry, has been forced to issue a public apology after using the term ‘our little Paki friend’ to refer to a military colleague in an incident captured on video and carried in the News of the World today. The incident follows on from the young prince’s earlier ‘gaffe’ in 2005, when he had to apologise after being captured on camera dressed in a Nazi outfit at a Hallowe’en party. As they say round these parts, he didn’t lick it off the pavement anyway…

  • cut the bull

    Are you really surprised honestly.

  • Billy Fish

    Donnelly, the one-trick pony, rides again!

  • cut the fish

    As in BBC, ITv, Sky News and all the print press one trick ponies ride again.

  • Chris Donnelly

    cut the fish

    You needn’t bother- it’s how ‘Billy’ copes.

    ‘Denial’ not being just a river in Egypt and all….

  • Billy Fish

    cut the fish

    pity you don’t seem to understand the term ‘one-trick pony’

    unlike your pal the media outlets you mention cover all types of stories. they avoid repeating the same mantra over and over again while simply changing the lead players from time to time.

    btw, it says a lot about you that you chose a screen name that threatens violence towards me. but then aggression is typical of closed minds.

  • Difficult one this: Ginger-pubes clearly does have a sense of humour.
    He appears to be taking the piss out of the army – which is no bad thing. When someone asks him if something – perhaps the camcorder – is his, he is able to give him a shirty brush off.

    And much of the army itself is racist like this, in the most unreflective way. So what do you expect?

    However, Ginger-pube’s balls are now in the hands of Capt Ahmed, who can be a decent sort and pretend that he rather likes being called Paki – and a helpful voice on the BBC even wonders if he suggested it himself, much as you or I might invite our betters to call us Paddy – or who might drop Harry and the army in the shit by telling us all what he really felt.

  • Breaking News

    Thick guy does something thick

  • Chris Donnelly

    Billy
    And from one who, on another thread minutes ago, suggested republicans were all street-drinking alcoholics.

    You couldn’t make it up!

  • cut the bull

    By the way its cut the bull slight typing mistake on my behalf. I dont threaten any violence towards you and I wish you good health and greta happiness. I dont know about Chris being my pal as I’ve yet to meet him but he has the right deal with the points which he believes are relevant.
    By the way I may let you know Ihave never threatened or been violent towards any bull ever I swear

  • cut the bull

    cross my heart and hope to die

  • blinding

    I have been watching the bbc news channel this morning and watching the verbal gymnastics that some of their newcasters and invited guest have been performing to make excuses for Harry have been cringeworthy and border on racism themselves.To watch experienced media performers try to defend the indefensible is amusing but at the same time very sad.An ordinary joe would have to fall on his sword but as this is not possible in a hereditery system all sorts of excuses have to be given serious credence.If anybody else in public life had shown such racism then they could not credibly carry on in their position.

  • Royal personage revealed to be thick and more than likely racist. News?

    But wait, hold your breath…who’s going to spurt out a post about it on Slugger?
    Yep, the blogging equivalent of the late, lamented Daily “Hun bastards ate my hamster” Ireland “journalists”.

    You don’t generally do the more reflective type of posts on here Chris, do you?
    Your thoughts, for example, on the antics of the junior wing of your party this weekend would have made an interesting post…what happened, not got it past the politburo’s censors yet?

  • Chris Donnelly

    oneill

    Ahh- Unionism’s finest to the rescue, with the classic ‘Donnelly’s having a go at us’ line.

    As I’ve said before on Slugger, it is a tribute to nationalists and republicans on the site that they generally refrain from attacking the messenger when threads highlighting nationalists or those deemed as being important to nationalists in a critical manner are opened.

    It is something many unionists could learn from.

    In any case, not likely to stop me opening threads which only the most blinkered of unionists could see as relevant.

    But you can always try, lads…

  • LURIG

    You see Chris you threaten the Unionist dominance of Slugger and they don’t like it. You infringe and shine light under their dark puritan 17th century stone. Like Brian Feeney you easily expose their hypocrisy and double standards and it is quite entertaining. It is hilarious listening to them condemn Mary McAleese while their beloved House of Windsor makes the BNP look forward thinking and liberal. Keep up the good work.

  • As I’ve said before on Slugger, it is a tribute to nationalists and republicans on the site that they generally refrain from attacking the messenger when threads highlighting nationalists or those deemed as being important to nationalists in a critical manner are opened.

    Are you serious? Have you read any on the recent threads on people like McIntyre, McDonald and no doubt, Willie Fraser as soon as Turgon’s latest is digested?

    On the wider point, Chris, you have told us that as an Irish republican, you have implied that you have found it funny that a member of the British Royal family uttered a racist remark. I have ambivalent feelings about the monarchy; I further think Harry is an idiot and since racism is a close bed-partner of idiocy, it wouldn’t be that big a surprise to find that he is a racist idiot.

    But seriously, it’s hardly pushing forward the boundaries of political blogging in NI is it? Call me weird, but it would be more interesting for me as a Unionist to read things slightly outside the comfort-zone from both your and my point of view, stuff that I don’t get to read anywhere else. You also seem to forget that you are not only preaching to the converted on here, but also an audience that may be undecided now, but could be potential SF or United Ireland voters in the future- think their intellects are stimulated by this kind of sub Sunday World tabloid shite?

    But if you want to continue along the same one-dimensional line, you go right ahead, there’s still plenty of those post-boxes out there needing painted green.

  • Greenflag

    God shave the Queen and may the same God (assuming he /she or it exists ) deliver Prince Harry a kick in the arse for his non diplomatic language .

    It’s tough being a ‘royal ‘ these days eh:( Why back in the good old days any oul royal could hack off the arms of any insolent peasant who questioned the ‘divine’ right to rule .

    Old Quote

    When asked if would like to visit the Soviet Union ?

    Prince Philip replied

    “The bastards murdered half my family

    ”When asked if she would like to visit the Irish Republic ?

    Queenie replied

    ‘The bastards murdered Uncle Louis ‘

  • Chris Donnelly

    Glad to see a bit more sense in your latest offering on the thread, oneill.

    I have started hundreds of threads on Slugger in my time, many which some republicans/ nationalists/ unionists would find either interesting, challenging or indeed boring, provocative and otherwise.

    That your initial reaction to the opening of this thread was to launch a personal tirade agin the messenger is disappointing as much as it is revealing of a mindset on Slugger from some which seeks to limit threads to those consistent with their chosen narrative- and indeed there may be nationalists who tick that box, as well as the many unionists who, like you, feel instinctively obliged to engage in messenger shooting.

    PS As noted by cut the bull, the ‘sunday world tabloid shite’ has been extensively covered and dealt with by the media in Ireland and Britain- but apparently you believe should be beyond the scope of Slugger.

    And I wonder why….

  • J O’Donovan

    The Paki is a disgrace for joining the British Army. Just like the Polacks who join the RUC on the Catholic quota. Few of us will shed tears for Captain Paki if he gets an OBE (one behind the ear), so who cares what a fellow Brit calls him. Non story.

  • Tony

    Chris Donnelly….Republicans don’t have time to attack the Unionist bloggers, they’re too busy verbally threatening them in the street [e.g. Londonderry] or politically threatening them in Stormont. Furthermore, if Unionists were to learn from Republicans, then we would all be murderers, terrorists and liars.

  • I have started hundreds of threads on Slugger in my time, many which some
    republicans/ nationalists/ unionists would find either interesting,
    challenging or indeed boring, provocative and otherwise.

    I must have been unlucky then… or not paying attention because I’d estimate 95% of those that I’ve read from you have been of the “Themmuns are bad’uns” variety.

    That your initial reaction to the opening of this thread was to launch a
    personal tirade agin the messenger is disappointing as much as it is
    revealing of a mindset on Slugger from some which seeks to limit threads to
    those consistent with their chosen narrative- and indeed there may be
    nationalists who tick that box, as well as the many unionists who, like
    you, feel instinctively obliged to engage in messenger shooting.

    I don’t know you personally, all I know of you is what I read on here. I’ve attacked the nature of your posts, not you personally, so let’s not develop too much of a persecution compex here. I’m not looking to limit, but to broaden “narratives”; if I want to read your type of “narrative”, then there’s hundreds, probably thousands, of the same “narratives” elsewhere on the net. If I’m looking for intelligent republicans arguing a more nuanced way forward, then I start to struggle.

    PS As noted by cut the bull, the ‘sunday world tabloid shite’ has been
    extensively covered and dealt with by the media in Ireland and Britain- but
    apparently you believe should be beyond the scope of Slugger.

    And I wonder why….

    The self-same media’s probably (if I could be arsed reading it) relating the latest adventures from the latest reality-show abomination. The argument” that “everyone else is doing it” is not necessarily a quality recommendation.

  • Prionsa Eoghan

    Oneil

    Hypocrisy becomes you, if your site didn’t attack Scottish nationalists you would have nothing to talk about. A clear case of Scottish bastards ate my British hamster.

    All harry is guily of is being a “normal bloke”. Anyone who mixes with different crowds knows a Harry. Casual racism is still pretty normal.

  • Catholic Observer

    I have no time whatsoever for these inbred tax dodgers but I don’t believe Harry is a racist. In colloquial parlance Pakistanis very frequently self-identify themselves as Pakis. The term Χριστιανός (‘little Christ’, or Christian) was once perceived as derogatory too. St Peter urged his followers not to ashamed when so teased but “let him glorify God in that name”. Pakis would also do well to take that advice.

  • Tony

    Catholic Observer…..you’re displaying a bit of commonsense in your post. This political correctness gone mad approach is beyond belief…I heard Michelle Markham, Liz Kennedy and William Crawley discuss the ‘Harry incident’ on Radio Ulster this morning and to listen to the three of them, you’d have thought Harry had shot someone. I wonder does Captain Ahmed, the Pakistani born Army Officer have a view on what was said? I guess he’d tell the News of the Screws and all the other moaners / whingers / political nonesense brigade to get a life and live in the real world.

  • Hypocrisy becomes you, if your site didn’t attack Scottish nationalists you would have nothing to talk about. A clear case of Scottish bastards ate my British hamster.

    That’s harsh Prince.

    “English/Irish/Ulster/Welsh nationalist bastards ate my hamster” would be a much more accurate summary;)

  • Prionsa Eoghan

    Fair play oneil. Still pretty shamelessly hypocritical though no?

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]I have no time whatsoever for these inbred tax dodgers but I don’t believe Harry is a racist. In colloquial parlance Pakistanis very frequently self-identify themselves as Pakis.”[/i]

    Totally agree Catholic Observer. Harry has said it as a nickname, a shortening of Pakistani. Gerry Adams frequently calls the British as the Brits and there’s no one shouting for his head.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “Difficult one this: Ginger-pubes clearly does have a sense of humour…..”

    As I’m a ginger-minger fair-hair blondy type, I find your comments very insulting Malachi and very racist indeed…..sniffle!
    I’m sure Greg Campbell would be appalled, as well as Reggie (comb over) Empey, and not forgetting Marty (waving good bye) boy too!

    Stand up gingers-mingers everywhere, we shall overcome some day!

    ….only kidding 🙂

    Jaypers, those English royals can be quite loose with their tongues and comments. I’m sure all NI Unionists found the prince’s comments out of order too for he practically insulted a great number of people belonging to the British Commonwealth of Nations.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    ….and that wearing of a Nazi uniform stunt (Swastika and all) just wasn’t funny, considering the annual British Commeration of the war dead on Cenotaph Sunday!

  • Jimmy

    Prince Harry made the remarks in the context of a male Macho environment,How can one be expected to be always aware of whats said?, he’s just a bloke like he rest of us, he’s only downfall is that there is an obsessed media ready to pounce on his every word and an army of Professional Rascism Hunters ready to be ‘offended’. Was the Pakistani trooper actually offended by the remarks? who knows.
    Lets face it, the media and the PC junta choose what they find offensive,example, Harry dressing up in a NAZI uniform some years ago, would there have been as much indignation and revulsion if he wore a Soviet costume a Che Guevara T-Shirt? I think not, surely one was just as bad as the other.
    This says more about the working culture of political correctness than genuine offence caused, as usual white middle class liberals and Media-news editors are more interested in a story rather than searching out real racism.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]….and that wearing of a Nazi uniform stunt (Swastika and all) just wasn’t funny, considering the annual British Commeration of the war dead on Cenotaph Sunday!2[/i]

    Remind me on fancy dress to never to wear that Spanish Inquisition dress, Bishops hat, or roman cross as I might offend some ancestors of the Reformation.

  • First, no need for any apology from Harry. This is the rise of politically correct language fascism and unless the guy concerned took offence, why do so many here jump on this pathetic media- bandwagon? Oh yes – because they instinctively hate our Royal family and use any pretence to indulge their venom. I seem to recall that Prince Harry’s mother was rather fond of a Pakistani heart surgeon so not sure where all this racist talk hails from.

    Also, this story is three years old and yet it make a shock horror splash today! How pathetic news is that?

    Brits, Paddies, Pakis – god (or should I say Allah for the benefit of the Fedayeen) forbid that the vernacular of the Army does meet with pc liberal approval.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]Also, this story is three years old and yet it make a shock horror splash today! How pathetic news is that? 2[/i]

    you what?

  • Mike

    Chris Donnelly

    “As I’ve said before on Slugger, it is a tribute to nationalists and republicans on the site that they generally refrain from attacking the messenger when threads highlighting nationalists or those deemed as being important to nationalists in a critical manner are opened.

    It is something many unionists could learn from.”

    Ah yes, the old Donnelly schtick…nationalists/republicans good, unionists bad.

    Interesting by the way that a nationalist/republican blogger such as yourself suddenly finds it interesting to be blogging about the Royal Family, when there’s a negative story to be had.

    The agenda couldn’t be any plainer and it’s a sad blow to the quality of Slugger.

  • Prionsa Eoghan

    >>Remind me to wear that Spanish Inquisition dress, Bishops hat, or roman cross<< I knew it, haven't I been saying all along that you were a frustrated priest. After all no-one can be as obsessed with the church without secretly wishing to be on the inside;¬)

  • J O’Donovan

    Is the Greek his grandpapa? Yes, if Noddy Big Ears (who wants to be a tampon when he grows up) is the pop. Has a DNA test been done?

  • Ri Na Deise

    Breaking News!

    Scientists have today discovered that inherent stupidity may be related to inbreeding…

  • Prionsa Eoghan

    Well reminded J O’D

    Isn’t that cad Hewitt supposed to be Harry’s Da;

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/2273498.stm

    A chip aff the auld block.

  • The rancid racism on display here from the republican fringe makes Harry seem quite erudite!

  • Ulsters my homeland

    The incident occurred three years ago but yet that august newsheet The News of The World chose to splash it today and then it was picked up by Al Beeb and the rest. Hardly news, more history.

  • Jimmy Sands

    “This is the rise of politically correct language fascism”

    Typical of those fascists and their pesky anti-racism.

  • Wonder what Slugger’s fedayeen make of a Pakistani who prefers to call himself a Paki? http://suspectpaki.com/ Even better, he’s one of yours! So, he he a racist? Yes or No?

    If not, why is the word racist? And it the word is not racist, what’s the problem? Oh, that’s right – it’s a member of the Royal Family, talking three years ago, in a military atmosphere. Cue predictable response from the running dogs…

  • David

    We really live in a wierd little world.

    The words of a young Royal reported 2009.
    No one died, although many had hurt feelings.

    The actions of Pakistani’s in Mumbai 2008.
    Hundreds shot dead & many injured.

    The actions of Pakistani-Brits in London 2005.
    Dozens dead & injured, many maimed for life in the bombings.

    Lets put a little perspective into all this for goodness sake. Yes words matter & certainly Harry & the rest of the Royal family should guard their mouths.

    However, when the media & public put as much time & effort into exposing the heart of darkness that is militant islam, of the Pakistan variety & elsewhere as they do the words of a young royal, then we will all gain. It is the elephant in the living room that the whole western world chooses to ignore.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “First, no need for any apology from Harry. This is the rise of politically correct language fascism and unless the guy concerned took offence, why do so many here jump on this pathetic media- bandwagon?….”

    Jaypers, remember the outcry from certain folk when President Mary McAleese refered to Nazi’s in her speech!

    “No one died, although many had hurt feelings.”

    Indeed!

  • For McAleese to describe Protestants as akin to Nazis show her own vicious racism. I don’t think Harry addressed all Pakistanis in the vernacular, did he? Sorry Gregory.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    BTW, UMH, I happen to be extremely anti-Nazi, as there is a fringe of loonies throughout the world who still adore Hitler and a penchant for anything associated with the Third Reich.

    I found the Prince donning the Swastika a rather offensive geature, particularly when my great uncle died in the war fighting for the British.

  • Greagoir O Frainclin

    “For McAleese to describe Protestants as akin to Nazis show her own vicious racism. I don’t think Harry addressed all Pakistanis in the vernacular, did he? Sorry Gregory.”

    David,

    President McAleese is from Ulster like yourself, who grew up during the Troubles. Whatever she witnessed or experienced whilst growing up in such an environment may have coloured her views. Those particular comments (which she later apologised for) were made soon after the whole Holy Cross affair when Catholic children were harassed whilst going to school.

  • Prionsa Eoghan

    Dave Vance

    The idea that you could accuse anyone of viscious racism is absolutely astonishing. You must have lost a few stone dancing in celebration of the deaths of all those Palestinians.

  • Ri Na Deise

    Vance is a troll.

  • John K Lund

    Greagor o Frainchin.
    Field Marshall Earl Alexander of Tunis, Irish born, wore very well cut uniforms which out shone the cut and tailoring of all the Bosche, Hitlerite, Fascist, Hun, Nazi Military uniforms that Cpl. Shickelgruber or Night Soiler or colloquially transalated Shit Shoveller’s armies that he was fighting. This type of behaviour is typical of all good military organisations. It is their own brand of black humour and mateyeness and helps maintain unit morale; another thing is that most well trained and disciplined soldiers see themselves in the role of peace makers defending their National Sovereignty and defending their people as well as liberating people from genocide and despotic little tyrants like Mugabe.

  • Bimbo

    Typical British officer behaviour.

  • ZoonPol

    Do you not mean the future Kink Liam Chris 😉

  • Dec

    In order to move on from this non-story (Senior Royal in racism shock), can someone start a thread on why Harry looks fuck-all like his bother?

  • Dec

    Brother

  • Isn’t this a very good example of cognitive dissonounce where a tabloid newspaper invades the privacy of a new trouble-making member of the royal family, and the public goes bonkers over it – leaving the most expensive, and quite destructive royal family still firmly on the throne?

  • cut the bull

    I have listened to several local broadcasters stating that people from here get called Paddy when they go to england, but its a bit softer than a Pakinstani being refered to as a Paki.

    Some broadcasters have even questioned if the term Paki is racist as if said in a non antogonistic manner it’s just an abbreviated form of the title Pakistani.

    So if this is the case then it would be quite acceptable then to refer to someone from Nigeria as Nigger if it’s said in a polite manner. No it would not.Lets be honest about it and stop the it’s not racist but Nonsense.