Allister attacks increased North-South spending

The News Letter is reporting that Traditional Unionist Voice MEP, Jim Allister is rather irate after discovering that North-South funding expenditure is rising – from £119 million in 2007 to £130 million in the period 2008-10. He forgot to mention the 30% increase for the Ulster-Scots Agency.

  • Kilsally, perhaps you should have read Jim’s article before you went off half-cock. The annex indicates that the Ulster-Scots Agency increase is 29.6% and the Loughs Agency 56.6%

    You’ve also left out the context of his irateness. Apparently he actually attacked the DUP for its failure to abide by its intent to have N/S budgets trimmed. Maybe you missed the NL headline: Allister blasts spend pledge.

    I must commend Jim’s staff for the work they’ve done to highlight various aspects of the Rathlin ferry ‘scandal’. Sadly, the relevant Stormont committees seem to have sat on their hands rather than exercise due diligence and scrutiny.

  • I`ve stopped reading most of his articles because he is always `girning`..it gets not only boring but down right depressing after a while.

  • Kilsally,

    So you stopped reading his articles but then proceed to post one up and ‘scrutinise’ it?

  • No I posted on the News Letter article.

  • I see you’ve linked into the Ulster-Scots website, Kilsally. There must be a bit of girning going on there, what with all those technical problems.

    Here are a couple of items to cheer you up: Mad Hare Day in Mosside and Santa’s Grotto.

  • “I posted on the News Letter article”

    Ahhhh. It’s usually a good idea to check a newspaper article against the source.

  • Jim Allister says: “DUP have broken another pledge and are now giving more taxpayers money to North South bodies”

    DUP says “Yes but…..”.

    In light of Jim’s actual statement maybe you should alter your ending to “The News Letter forgot to mention…”

    Nevin is spot on.

  • I suppose that rather depends on your definition of `cut out their waste of taxpayers’ hard earned cash.`. Jim presumably thinks an 30% increase for the Ulster-Scots Agency is just that?

  • Throwing an extra £758,000 at the Ulster-Scots Agency bringing its total to £3,335,000 does not justify the other £127 million being spent on the North-South Bodies. Jim has pointed at what the DUP promised on one hand and delivered with another.

    Legitimate questions. Maybe if the Ulster-Scots had been granted their increase due to efficiency savings elsewhere it would be a great success. But it was not.

    Again, I think you should change your last sentence. Jim did not forgot if it is included in the annex (which it is).

  • Perhaps this is a relevant section from the DUP 2007 manifesto:

    In 2003 we published proposals to cut the cost of Government, advocating:
    • Reducing the number of Government Departments
    • Cutting the number of Assembly Members
    • Abolition of the Civic Forum
    • Cutting North-Southery
    • Redefining the Equality and Human Rights Agenda
    • Cutting the costs of OFMDFM

    How is OFMDFM pruning coming along?

  • 6countyprod

    I have just spent a little while on Allister’s website. I’m curious why no other TUV members seem to be allowed to contribute anything to the site.

    Is the TUV that much of a one-man-band party that not only does it not have its own site, but none of its members are allowed to express an opinion?

    ‘Leading for Ulster’, more like ‘Leading for Allister’

    McCartney Mark II!

  • Bigger Picture

    Let’s cut the crap here, no matter who said what or ommitted to include the bottom line is this, Jim Allister is attacking a rise in spending which is directly linked to an increase in spending on the Ulster Scots Agency and Northern Ireland Tourism. Where is a Unionists logic to complain about this other than a pure and base hatred of the DUP? Is this the level that he has to try to go to to keep himself relevant? I know Mr Allister is avery experienced QC but if he got up in a Unionist Court with that argument he would be thrown out!

    And don’t get me started about that hot bed of Republican Socialism

  • Bigger Picture

    The Loughs Agency!!!!

  • I have no hatred of the DUP. But I smell bullshit in regards this post.

    BP – You could turn that around and point at the increase in funding the Irish Language in the North-South bodies, its only up by 2% but it gets a staggering £13,874,000 compared to the Ulster-Scots £3,335,000. DUP SUCCESS ALL ROUND BOYS!

    What a ridiculous stick to try and hit Jim Allister with. He is attacking a broken pledge, fair game.

  • picador

    Er…

    BP – You could turn that around and point at the increase in funding the Irish Language in the North-South bodies, its only up by 2% but it gets a staggering £13,874,000 compared to the Ulster-Scots £3,335,000.

    Irish is a real language. Ulster Scots isn’t.

  • Jim Henson – Muppett Master

    Allister is getting under the skin of the mandatory coalition protection crews.

    Remember the days when it was just Paisley speaking for the DUP? Indeed one wonders if that would be a better scenario than the current incoherent drivel spouted by the hordes of DUP MLAs.

    Gregory Campbell on Nolan yesterday is a prime example.

    So what is a Unionist Court – Big Picture?
    I have no idea what DUP unionism represents. See Nevin no 10 above. Relevant? Allister filleted the DUP on their “secret” position on academic selection at 14.

  • The DUPes that are currently the ‘main’ voice of Unionism never kept a promise in their life….founded by Paisley, who could never be a part of anything but had to be Leader of everything….e.g. The Free Presbyterian Church, the Independent Orange Order [he’s always the main speaker at their 12th July demonstration, usually around Ballymoney], his cohorts have taken over the Apprentice Boys’, they control many of the County Grand Lodges of the Orange Order, an example being the City of Londonderry, where every officer bar one is a card-carrying DUPe, their influence in the Ulster-Scots Agency not only involves the Board, where many card-carrying members are Directors, e.g. Leathem and Humphries, as are most of their Development staff, the Ulster-Scots Network where McCausland is ‘boss’ and the Ulster-Scots Heritage Council where Humphries is Director and majority of the hierachy are DUPes….the list is endless and just like Sinn Fein, who control the Voluntary & Community Sector in Nationalist / Republican areas, the DUPes seek to control all groups that have influence within the Protestant / Unionist community.

    Allister is correct to expose their lies / deception / duplicity and whilst I would not vot TUV as my number 1, I would certainly vote them 2 in preference to the DUPes.

  • 6countyprod

    William, it sounds like you are still pretty sore about the fact that the OUP has lost out to the DUP in its influence with the unionist people. You’ll get over it eventually.

    btw, Dr. Paisley, I believe, was never a member of the Ind. Orange.

  • fair_deal

    William

    That post really cheered we up this morning. Here was me wandering about complaining about the lack of coherence and organisation in the DUP but all along I have been part of this all embracing conspiracy. The DUP are even under your bed run for the hills!!!! Where to begin with this drivel.

    “the Independent Orange Order [he’s always the main speaker at their 12th July demonstration, usually around Ballymoney],”

    He was never a member of the IOO and he hasn’t ‘always’ been the main speaker as the IOO’s demonstration started before he was even born.

    “they control many of the County Grand Lodges of the Orange Order, an example being the City of Londonderry,”

    Will you inform Tom Elliot of this or will I? With such control its strange how the Grand Master criticised being in government with Sinn Fein on the Twelfth and happily attended a TUV Eleventh night bonfire. With this control it is strange that the only other Unionist politician besides Tom given a spot on a platform this year was UUP MLA David McNarry?

    “their influence in the Ulster-Scots Agency not only involves the Board, where many card-carrying members are Directors, e.g. Leathem and Humphries”

    ‘Many’ and then you name the only two who do. You overlooked the UUP member, Ian Adamson.Again offer as evidence the two who are prominent to make a false claim about the rest of them. I’m sure the ones from the Irish republic aren’t likely to be DUP card carriers neither would the UUP member or the person from a respected historical organisation. So this DUP control amounts to 2 of 8 people.

    “as are most of their Development staff….the Ulster-Scots Heritage Council where Humphries is Director and majority of the hierachy are DUPes”

    Complete fantasy land and BTW if you going to bash someone at least get their name right it is William Humphrey not Humphries.

  • William,

    I have to agree with FD on your post. Getting past the obvious lack of background knowledge you have of these organisations you are as bad as those you are trying to vilify. Mirror image if you will.

    Nothing annoys me more than self-righteous unionists who quite simply hate the other party end of story. We’ve had a few Freudian slips in the past from some contributors nevermind the bloggers!

  • William

    I stand by everthing I said about the DUPes…I notice that none of the 3 critical posters said anything about my mention of the ‘lies, deception and duplicity of the DUPes’. Perhaps my comments took a too ‘broad brush’ approach….being specific, of course the U-S Agency has a majority of people on the Board who are not DUPes but the recent appointments, Leatham and Humphrey are both DUPe Councillors. I never said Paisley was a member of the Ind. OO…he wears his Apprentice Boys of Derry Collarette to every type of parade but for the past 30+, probably more years he has been the Preacher and it was only tin the last couple of years that he didn’t make a barnstroming political speech, slandering fellow Unionists for something that he did himself, i.e. go into Government with Sinn Fein / IRA and with a much worse Agreement [hence the months of Executive inaction that we have just seen].
    As to ‘6CountyProd’ [a strange name for a ‘unionist’ – small u intended]….I’m not a bit sore about the UUP losing out….when people lie to get into power and the voters fall for it, as a Democrat, I accept it. However, when the next Election comes around, I forsee many of those who ‘lent’ their votes to the DUPes and indeed many 30+ year DUPe voters deserting them in droves. The TUV showed in Dromore that they can take votes from the DUPes and were that to be the case around the Province, the DUPes would, I reckon, lose at least 25% of their seats in both Council and the Assembly. That was reason why Arlene Foster delayed the next Council Elections by three years – scared of the Democratic process and hoping the electorate will have forgotten the DUPe treachery by then…..however, real Unionists have long memories and the UUP will be in pole position once again. The Party of Carson, Craigavon and Brookeborough is the Unionist party will is honest and delivers. Paisley is just a gulpin and one of the strengths of his reign as First Minister was that he didn’t have a eejit like himself shouting ‘Lundy’, ‘Traitor’, ‘Judas’ at him, in the manner he did at previous Leaders of Unionism like Faulkner, Molyneux and Trimble.

  • fin

    A quick glace at the accounts for the bodies involved, I looked at waterways ireland and tourism – which is £90m for 2008- show that north and south pay their own way but efforts are maximised by a united front

    I think Jim and his supporters are wrong on this one, but obviously happy to be corrected

  • Is the funding increase inline with inflation? The DUP pledged to cut waste, they are not against North-South bodies as some anti-Republic agenda, they use commonsense and where North-Sout bodies are sensible just like East-West bodies then it is prudent to work such bodies for the people of Northern Ireland – certainly that is how I feel about it and I am not a card carrying DUP member.