Anti-Protestant Media Taken To Task By Culture Vulture Campbell….

Fresh from his foray into Scottish football and whilst yet to issue that invite to All-Ireland Senior and Minor Football Champions, Tyrone, DCAL Minister Gregory Campbell has put down a Motion in the House of Commons calling for “balanced media coverage” in Scotland and the Six Counties regarding comments made about the ‘Roman Catholic community’ and the Protestant community.

Gregory’s motion reads as follows:
That this House notes the condemnation by sections of the media, particularly in Northern Ireland and Scotland, of those who use language which could be construed as “anti – Catholic” but also notes the lack of criticism or condemnation by similar sections of the media about comments which could equally be construed as “anti – Protestant” such as the former Policing Ombudsman in Northern Ireland Nuala O’Loan, who in August 2008 during a BBC Radio 4 interview for Woman’s Hour said “Protestants would have been taught as children that they could not trust Catholics”, calls for a fair and balanced media approach in trying to ensure that such ill informed and inaccurate comments cease to be made by all of those in positions of influence.

All very puzzling, given the obvious MOPEish taint of the motion. Yet, whilst Campbell’s stated focus is on comments attributed to Nuala O’Loan, there must be a strong suspicion that Gregory’s real target is the media’s reporting of comments attributed to fellow DUP MP, Iris Robinson, regarding homosexuality and the job of a government to uphold God’s will. Is this the DUP trying to strong arm the local media? The suggestion by Campbell that O’Loan’s comments received an “almost sympathetic and unquestioning hearing and acceptance” in the media would appear to be quite a stretch, but even if they were defended by some commentators, is the DUP arguing that such opinions should be censored? And, ultimately, isn’t it ironic that the party which historically provided the most juicy soundbites when it came to making derogatory statements about one particular Christian Faith would now be attacking the media for the reporting of such comments?

  • RepublicanStones

    The Third Proclaimer really loves Scotland, he seems to yearn for the blood and thunder days of yore.

  • ggn

    “The Third Proclaimer really loves Scotland”

    Hmmm. I doubt if he has much time for Catholic Scotland, whether of Irish descent or in the Highland pocekets.

    I doubt also if Gregory has much time for the Gaels of Scotland either, even if they are Free-Prespiterians!

    Maybe I am wrong, I would like Mr Campbell to prove me wrong.

  • Michael Shilliday

    Wow. Astounding. Chris Donnelly talking about MOPEry not a week after this MOPE fest. Whip hand of history and all that

  • Driftwood

    in Scotland and the Six Counties??

    Which British counties was he talking about? I strongly suspect Yorkshire, given that there is a very parochial viewpoint perceived as coming from there. My next county would be Somerset, rural carrot crunchers. Gloucestershire, almost Welsh? Can anyone enlighten me to the other 4 counties, other than Gregory’s own county Londonderry?

  • perry

    Deluded or not Gregory’s upset at the unfair villification of his tradition seems genuine enough. Top of his maiden speech agenda seven years ago;

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200102/cmhansrd/vo010626/debtext/10626-23.htm

    “My community is angry, disillusioned, discriminated against and marginalised, not only since the Belfast agreement but for decades before. The 1998 agreement only made matters worse. I am here to work for the revitalisation of that community. In most strata of society in Northern Ireland, Unionists feel that their cultural outlook has been ignored. The Northern Ireland of today is a place where Unionists feel their second-class citizenship acutely. The advantages that nationalists enjoy are considerable. I want to work for a society that all our people feel comfortable in and with.”

    Gregory needs a hug.

  • Billy

    Michael Shilliday

    Dear me, Michael.

    A very pathetic whataboutery attempt.

    This idiotic motion from Campbell is MOPEry at it’s very worst.

    All it will do is confirm the opinion that most MPs (and UK people) have of the DUP in particular and NI Unionists in general.

    It will simply draw futher attention to the ridiculous homophobic comments from the laughable Iris Robinson.

    I look forward to Campbell being pressed about this in the media – ample opportunity for his own one-sided comments to be given another airing.

    My goodness, with events such as those in Limavady recently and now this nonsense, is it any wonder that there is little sympathy for NI Unionists in Westminster or the UK in general.

    I can certainly understand why David Cameron wouldn’t want to be associated with any of this nonsense.

    What a crew the DUP have – Iris Robinson, Campbell, McCrea, Wilson and Simpson. Sinn Fein don’t need to attend Westminster – people of this “calibre” don’t need any assistance to bring ridicule on NI Unionism.

  • LURIG

    I can’t remember the Rangers supporter Gregory getting too worked up when his fellow Rangers supporters wrecked Manchester, looted shops and attacked the police at the UEFA Cup final; comment on the UEFA fines imposed on Rangers for sectarian singing of their fans; raised arm salutes in Israel from Rangers fans; singing of the racist, bigoted famine song by Rangers fans EVERY week in Scotland AND I can’t remember his rebukes for the thugs who attacked Neil Lennon in Glasgow. Campbell and many other Unionists DON’T like the media because they tell the truth about sectarianism in Norn Iron and Scotland. They are both hot beds of bigoted anti-Catholicism so stop trying to censor the facts Gregory because the stark truth hurts. Hopefully this ridiculous motion will be treated with the contempt it deserves and laughed out of the Commons. How stupid does he think people are?

  • Yvette Doll

    “They are both hot beds of bigoted anti-Catholicism ”

    When was the last time SF said something nice about the Pope, any Pope?

    SF will allow the Northern Bishops to get off the hook on historic child abuse, keep a few dark secrets of their own,

    the IRA were the police for decades in some places, they know stuff, they are hardly pro-Catholic in the ‘Catholic’ sense of the word.

    Holy Cross, Lower Ormeau, Garvaghy, that was anti-Catholicism, hijacked by SF for another purpose.

    Catholics need to wise-up and look at the SDLP and UUP in my opinion. Voting SF is a mistake, a vote to the SDLP or UUP is worth more. The UUP will actually do pro-Catholic stuff.

    Of course I’m prejudiced, SF has reacted very badly to my swinging hedonistic entirely gay happenings the Belfast child formerly known as ‘Yvette’ in the 1970s and 1980s.

    I’m getting charged 1,200 bucks for a FOI at the Lord Mayor’s office! I think they are homophobic.

    It is so shocking.

    Yvette

  • Cahal

    In the middle of the current economic crisis, i find it distrurbing that a member of the UK’s parliament spends his days drafting motions like this. He is utterly out of his depth, playing snap in a Vegas casino.

    How thoroughly depressing.

  • Michael Shilliday

    I didn’t say anything that you have contradicted Billy. It’s just that people in glass houses……..

  • Anto’s Fan Club

    Where is the media condemnation of Celtic fans singing “The famine is over why don’t you go home?” a dark time in Ulster’s history when there was a 19.8% decline in population and Orange Bands marched solemnly without music to remember their fallen brethren.

  • George

    This is the same Gregory Campbell who believed that thousands of southerners living in Northern Ireland were outraged as they weren’t entitled to automatic British citizenship he felt they all obviously craved.

    He even organised a postcard campaign so they could petition for this. Years have passed and we are all still waiting for the bold Greg to show one postcard.

    I know the Royal Mail can be slow sometimes but surely after 3 years Campbell should have received at least one card? Or maybe things weren’t as he thought and in fact such cravings never existed?

    Does the DUP sanction Campbell’s odd off the ball runs or is he simply given free rein?

  • Dec

    Given the antics of this man over the years, it’s hard to escape the conclusion that Gregory was at his happiest back in late 60’s Derry when he could shout abuse at civil rights marchers, from behind RUC lines.

  • Carson’s Cat

    Chris
    “and whilst yet to issue that invite to All-Ireland Senior and Minor Football Champions, Tyrone,”

    He’s already said that he’ll “look positively” on any request submitted for a reception and made the point on Radio Ulster recently that it took 2 months to arrange the Olympic reception.

    Tyrone won their cup less than three weeks ago (I think) – so is is special treatment you want for the GAA, do you believe it should be fast-tracked?

    What is it with GAA supporters who believe that equality for them is to receive special treatment. Get into the queue for your reception at Stormont. I’m sure the ‘great’ Tyrone squad can wait for a couple of weeks for their picture to be taken in front of Lord Craigavon.

    Its nice to see that you’ve descended to becoming Slugger’s equivalent of Barry McElduff though Chris….. you’ll definitely not be up for the blogging award next year.

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    “Protestants would have been taught as children that they could not trust Catholics”

    Is this not true then?

    But it would explain the ethos of the NI hardline religious folk, hence the obvious paranoia and anal retention!

  • Ulsters my homeland

    [i]former Policing Ombudsman in Northern Ireland Nuala O’Loan, who in August 2008 during a BBC Radio 4 interview for Woman’s Hour said “Protestants would have been taught as children that they could not trust Catholics”[/i]

    doesn’t O’Loan, President of the Republic (McAleese) and Father Reid not know the Pan Nationalist Front is dead?

  • Ulsters my homeland

    Everyone Protestant in N.Ireland should send O’Loan, McAlease and Father Reid a letter of disgust. I did. I have told these Fascists that I have many good Catholic friends, one of my best friends is Catholic and I couldn’t get a better friend if I tried.

    These people, O’Loan, McAleese and Reid are most likely the ones who have lead a secluded life free from Protestants. In fact, coming out with statements like they have, proves they haven’t much knowledge of Protestant people.

  • dosser

    Wasn’t O’Loan born and raised in Hertfordshire?

    I must have missed it when Hertfordshire became a bastion of the counter-reformation.

  • Hugh Dubh Oneill

    UMH oh god the “some of my best friends are black/catholic/jewish” defence.

  • neil

    made the point on Radio Ulster recently that it took 2 months to arrange the Olympic reception.

    It didn’t take two months, Greg was talking shit. The Special Olympics only ended on the 24th August. The event was held on the 13th Spetember. That’s nineteen days, not two months.

    The GAA final was on the 21st September. That’s eighteen days ago, so if equality were applied the reception must be tomorrow. So how about some of that equality then? No? Didn’t think so.

  • Republic of Connaught

    It isn’t about “Protestant” people. It’s about the culturally belligerent mentality of Protesant NI people. Not Protestants in the South or England or anywhere else.

    Gregory Campbell is a raving loony. He deserves a retirement plan that includes permanenet confinement to a cuckoo’s nest.

  • Democratic

    “It’s about the culturally belligerent mentality of Protesant NI people.”

    Nice way to tackle sectarian tosh Republic of Connaught – by fighting fire with fire…..

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]UMH oh god the “some of my best friends are black/catholic/jewish” defence.”[/i]

    And what’s wrong with that Hugh? it’s the truth and proves O’Loan, McAleese and Reid are wrongfully trying to type-cast all Protestants as bigots.

  • My my, what a great bundle of fluff in my navel…

  • Republic of Connaught

    Democratic, everyone on these islands sees NI Unionists as an aggressive tribe. Fair enough, being on a small island where 80 per cent of the people are of a different politicial and religious view has made you that way.

    But NI Prods are prickly people. One need only look at Gregory Campbell’s terrible twin, Nigel Worthington, after a defeat to see that.. 🙂

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]My my, what a great bundle of fluff in my navel… “[/i]

    knit yourself a willie warmer for Christmas.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]Democratic, everyone on these islands sees NI Unionists as an aggressive tribe. Fair enough, being on a small island where 80 per cent of the people are of a different politicial and religious view has made you that way.”[/i]

    Fighting Irish Fascism is a proud and noteworthy discipline.

  • churchill = terrorist

    Fighting Irish Fascism is a proud and noteworthy discipline – UMH

    You must really loathe yourself then.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    Nothing Fascist and Irish about me churchill. I’m a good loyal Ulsterman of Gaelic origin who never turned into an Irish Fascist like the others.

  • Rabelais

    ‘These people, O’Loan, McAleese and Reid are most likely the ones who have lead a secluded life free from Protestants. In fact, coming out with statements like they have, proves they haven’t much knowledge of Protestant people.’

    ,It isn’t about “Protestant” people. It’s about the culturally belligerent mentality of Protesant NI people. Not Protestants in the South or England or anywhere else.’

    UMH and Rep of Conn,
    Neither of you seem to know anything about Ulster Prods. There a pretty diverse bunch, neither all belligerent nor likely to write en masse to O’Loan, McAlease and Father Reid, or anyone else for that matter.

    If northern protestants have anything to complain about its there stereotypical representation as dour and aggressive. A stereotype some of protestant contributors seem happy to perpetuate

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]If northern protestants have anything to complain about its there stereotypical representation as dour and aggressive. A stereotype some of protestant contributors seem happy to perpetuate”[/i]

    We’d rather be dour and agressive than have the Irish steal our land and identity.

    “tell our Irish enemies, that they may take our lives, but they’ll never take our freedom”

  • thats a good boy

    umh I’m a good loyal Ulsterman of Gaelic origin who never turned into an Irish Fascist like the others.AHHHH now i see a wee man who took the soup.Explains a lot keep on ranting.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]AHHHH now i see a wee man who took the soup.Explains a lot keep on ranting.[/i]

    What if my forefathers did eat Protestant soup? at least they didn’t have to starve to death to pay St. Peters pence, which was paying for the Bishops French wine anyhow.

  • thats a good boy

    You poor little boy its ok we understand you now calm down calm down it’s all going to be ok.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “You poor little boy its ok we understand you now calm down calm down it’s all going to be ok.

    Posted by thats a good boy”

    I don’t need your pity, your pity is the last pity I need. Are you a priest?

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    Folk should just ignore the utterings of the religious zealots on Slugger!

    A people that are firmly locked in the past have nothing to contribute!

    Just ignore them and their inane utterings!

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]Folk should just ignore the utterings of the religious zealots on Slugger!”[/i]

    That would be like going into a sweat shop and being allowed to taste the sweats. Don’t be an Irish Fascist.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    Edit to the post above: [u]not[/u] being allowed to taste the sweats

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    Sweats = ?

    Sweet …doh!

    ….as in SFA to say!

  • Ulsters my homeland

    ”Folk should just ignore the utterings of the religious zealots on Slugger!”

    why Greagoir O’ Frainclin?

  • Ulsters my homeland

    come on Greagoir O’ Frainclin, have you any answer?

  • RepublicanStones

    You eat sweat???? That must be salty as f**k, I’d say it leaves ye’ fair thirsty hi. Best to put it on the soup 🙂

  • Ulsters my homeland

    who invited you RepublicanStones? Can’t you get the hint, you aren’t wanted.

  • RepublicanStones

    Wow, didn’t realise Slugger was invitational only. Watch any Paul Newman movies yet mo chara?

  • Rabelais

    ‘We’d rather be dour and agressive than have the Irish steal our land and identity.

    It’s because unionism is percieved as dour and aggressive that it is friendless. This is a lamentable state of affairs for many northern Protestants not of the fundamentalist strain. But then again the dour and aggressive have always been more vocal in putting their case. UMH, there is no point unionism complaining about media bias if it is content to live up to its reprehensible stereotype. In other words, don’t piss in the swimming pool and then complain when yu swallow some of the water

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    Very true Rabelais.

    Another chap recently admitted to being a religious bigot on another thread!

    Obviously some elements of NI folk are somewhat proud of their aloofness and unapproachability! It makes it harder for everyone else when these people hold the reigns of power.

  • ggn

    In some ways I feel sorry for Gregory Campbell.

    I mean, imagine watching Braveheart and being on for the English!

    Bring back Pootsy, all is forgiven!

  • Democratic

    Embarrassing thread – Like I said to yer man from Connaught – it seems the best way to combat a complaint of anti-protestant bias from certain quarters in the media is to engage in pathetic sectarian stereotyping….you go guys!

  • Greagoir O’ Frainclin

    “it seems the best way to combat a complaint of anti-protestant bias from certain quarters in the media is to engage in pathetic sectarian stereotyping”

    Please see above… “We’d rather be dour and agressive than have the Irish steal our land and identity”

    You fail to realise that some folk are proud to admit to be a pathetic sectarian stereotype!

  • Democratic

    “Some” may be my friend – and perhaps that is a very important word missing from several posts on this thread….besides I honestly have reckoned yer man UMH is a troll for quite a while – he admittedly does “my lot” no favours…

  • rabelais

    I hope he is a republican troll looking to discredit ulster unionism. If not and his opinions are representative of any significant section of northern Protestant opinion we’re doomed.

  • neil

    Unfortunately we all have em. A gentleman by the name of Pat springs to mind, haven’t heard anything from him for a while. I believe he basically excluded me from the nationalist community because I was originally from Ballymena. Bless him.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    “[i]besides I honestly have reckoned yer man UMH is a troll for quite a while – he admittedly does “my lot” no favours…”[/i]

    Democratic, Your lot as you put them need to open their eyes, and understand how the rest of the world really does see UU as dour and aggressive. It’s nothing to be ashamed of, they’re a product of their environment, shaped by endless Irish Fascism directed against the freedom they once upheld.

    Pretending that Ulster Unionism is some rosy garden will ultimately send you blindfolded into a United Ireland. How many people followed Paisley over the years, only to find out they were being lead blind? Hiding all the blemishes in Unionism does not expose the forces which shaped those blemishes in the first place.

  • rabelais

    UMH,
    What will send you into a united Ireland quicker are the analytical skills of the average 10 year old.

    Sinn Fein may be unpleasant but they aren’t fascists and responding to them as if they were will not help your political cause because you have entirely misrecognised your enemy. Also to say that unionism is purely the product of its environment is a remarkably deterministic understanding of political formation. You seem to be suggesting that Ulster unionism has no historical agency of its own and ultimately is simply formed in opposition to Irish republicanism (you say fascism). How do you feel about belong to a political community the shape of which you seem to believe is utterly dependent upon the machinations of Irish republicanism?

  • ggn

    Take the oppurtunity to send tthe minister a message, loud and clear.

    An Ghaeilic Abu!

    BEIDH AN GHRIAN AG SOILSIÚ AMÁRACH!
    The sun is going to shine tomorrow!

    BÍGÍ LINN AGUS BÍGÍ LINN GO LUATH!
    Be with and be with us early!

    MÓRSHIÚL AR SON ACHT NA GAEILGE
    March round Belfast City Centre for the Irish Language Act!

    Ó Cultúrlann McAdam Ó Fiaich ar 11.45 rn / am

    Ó Theach Mhic Reachtain, Bóthar Aontroma ar 12.00

    Ón Droichead, Sráid Cooke ar 12.00

  • Yellowford

    UMH. You espouse some partisan rubbish! You flutter from thread to thread until your arguments hit a wall and then you abscond like rat after the lights have been turned on. Grow up, get real and open your eyes man…

    BTW – do you even know what fascism is? O’Duffy et al flirted with the idea in the 30s, but as far as i’m aware, that was fascism at its peak. Dev could have went that way but chose not to. I recommend you read more before engaging in topics you obviously know little about.

  • Martin loves Franco.

    Are you kidding Yellowford?

    What’s not fascist about the IRA’s aim for a sudetenlike annexation of the six counties as ancient tribal territory regardless of current indigenous opinion, their claim that national economic and cultural decline has been suffered as a result of foreign forces, their recurring graveside sacrament of the blood sacrifice, their love for the vigour of “physical force” politics, their desire for a national rebirth through distinctive “national” sporting and cultural pastimes?

    Who but a fascist takes workers from a bus, singles out those from the treacherous foreign minority and shoots them dead. And who but a fascist seeks to remove their state from all forms of international cooperation (from NATO to the Commonwealth to the EU to the WTO) so as to protect its national purity.

    Who but a fascist attacks social democrats in their homes for the crime of speaking out against political violence?

    And who but a fascist insists that all community representatives must be branded according to their tribe before they can particpate in government – and calls anyone who opposes this a traitor?

    Where are the progressive aspects of Sinn Fein’s politics? Where is their trade union movement? Where is their open support for women’s rights. Nowhere. Sinn Fein know that for all their pretence at international socialism the bedrock of their support is right-wing tribalism and a desire for cultural supremacy. That’s why their mirror image in the Orange Order disturbs them so much. Like the Orange Order they can’t bear even the display of difference.

    The mark of a fascist is their hatred for accomdodation – they can only see liberals as traitors or a more cunning and deceitful enemy. “Unionist Lite” and “The Northern Ireland Office Front Party” is the description given to Alliance by republican cheerleaders. Pure fascism.

    Genuine fighter against fascism, Marshall Tito only had to take one look at the IRA to recognize immediately the Catholic ultra-nationalism of the Ustachi. “Clerical Fascists” he called them. He was spot on.

    Perhaps the reason you can’t see it is that you’re the kind of person who comes to a website intended to promote conversation amongst northern Irish people wrapping themselves in the memory of a 410 year old battle between Gaels and Englishmen. You think the battle of Yellowford unfinished business. Perhaps you’ll live to see Eire purified and wiped clean of foreign influence. Get rid of all those “Westbrits” eh?

  • Yellowford

    A long post MLF. A lot to go on, but i’ll do my best. First of all fascism; i don’t know about you but since the inception of the IRA, or even the Provos, I cannot see where they have been ideologically driven by the fascist model. Taking isolated incidents to prove hollow points is misleading, however i can see how extreme nationalism can be mistaken for fascism. The best definition of fascism that i know of is Roger Griffin’s.
    Many of SF/IRA’s policies cannot be said to be fascist in nature. If anything, most of them veer on the left. Dermot Ahern said last year that SF were a Marxist party. I firmly disagree with him and i disagree with you.

    International Socialists they are not, they’ve had to play the centre-right game with various socially leftist inclinations to survive.

    As for the cultural activities. I feel the they should be preserved so as to road block the juggernaut of exported corporate globalisation. Who really wants a McDonald’s in every town in Ireland? With de Valera’s grandson funding the OO in the border regions, orangeism’s place in Irish history is well preserved.

    Alas, how can someone see the tri-colour as their own and then object to orangeism?

  • rabelais

    There’s a lazy habit of referring to any group we don’t like as fascist – islamo-fascists, orange-fascists, irish-fascists etc – to the point were the term becomes almost meaningless in common parlance.

  • MLF

    There is Rab and normally I’d avoid it. Swept away in my own ranting.

    YF. Agreed. Fianna Fail have in recent years found the best of themselves and they’re actions and stagecraft have justified proper Irish republicanism to a generation of northern prods. by their actions. The humanity and humility of the Islandbridge ceremony, the openness of the UCC historical conference on the Rising and the commitment to peacekeeping shown in the Easter Parade were great displays of the true intentions of the best of Republicans.

    Tangent regarding the Tricolour. Apart from its very tricolouriness it’s an odd “Republican” symbol. If the Green represents the 18th century Republicans (many prods) and the Orange denotes the Williamite constitutional monarchists (some catholics) then it seems more a symbol for a an early saorstat trying to reconcile republicanism with commonwealth post-colonialism than an aggressively republican banner.

    As a northern non-subscribing prod I find it a pretty generous mixture. At least we have the gaelic associations of the president’s standard to give us a bit of plain old Irishry.

  • Ulsters my homeland

    UMH,
    What will send you into a united Ireland quicker are the analytical skills of the average 10 year old.

    Sinn Fein may be unpleasant but they aren’t fascists and responding to them as if they were will not help your political cause because you have entirely misrecognised your enemy. Also to say that unionism is purely the product of its environment is a remarkably deterministic understanding of political formation. You seem to be suggesting that Ulster unionism has no historical agency of its own and ultimately is simply formed in opposition to Irish republicanism (you say fascism). How do you feel about belong to a political community the shape of which you seem to believe is utterly dependent upon the machinations of Irish republicanism?

    fuck you lot talk some shit, hi. The IRA/Sinn Fein propeganda isn’t wanted here.

  • Emmett

    Jesus umh now I know you just post for laugh

  • Emmett

    Jesus umh now I know you just post for laugh

  • lee

    ‘fuck you lot talk some shit, hi. The IRA/Sinn Fein propeganda isn’t wanted here.’

    Oh Dear!!

  • Ulsters my homeland

    Yellowford

    “[i]First of all fascism; i don’t know about you but since the inception of the IRA, or even the Provos, I cannot see where they have been ideologically driven by the fascist model.” [/i]

    The Facist model is best described by Robert O. Paxton.

    ‘A form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy but effective collaboration with traditional elites, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal restraints goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.’

    “[i] UMH. You espouse some partisan rubbish! You flutter from thread to thread until your arguments hit a wall and then you abscond like rat after the lights have been turned on. Grow up, get real and open your eyes man… [/i]

    Why should I spend time talking to the likes of you, when you have the audacity to state Dev/the IRA or PIRA weren’t Fascists. Give me one good reason why I should stick around talking to the likes of you ?

    “[i]O’Duffy et al flirted with the idea in the 30s, but as far as i’m aware, that was fascism at its peak. Dev could have went that way but chose not to. [/i]

    Dev was as much a Facist as O’Duffy, his Fianna Fail was determined that the country be rooted in Catholic Nationalism rather than pluralism. He famously said, “Since the coming of St Patrick 1500 years ago Ireland has been a Christian and a Catholic nation”.

    He allowed the RC Church to continue the ‘purity’ of the Irish Nation by ethnically cleansing the country of Prods, refusing children of mixed marriage be brought up Protestant. He said, “If I had a vote on a local body, and if there were two qualified people who had to deal with a Catholic community, and if one was a Catholic and the other was a Protestant, I would unhesitatingly vote for the Catholic”. He later supported the move by Mayo council to refuse a library job to a Protestant graduate on the grounds that he was a Prod.

    The Republic’s claim that the whole island formed one national territory, is a Fascist idea, and that was only removed in 1999 through Unionist pressure.

  • Ulster Irish Fascism’s Homaeland

    “Some people have told me that we need fascism. We have the Orange order. We have the B-Specials. What need have we of fascism?”

  • lee

    I wonder will Gregory Campbell be complaining to the IFA about Northern Ireland supporters singing the ‘Famine song’ in Slovenia last night?