What did Iris say?

Three cheers for that bureaucratic pain, but first defence of human rights section 75 for taking Gay Rights to the top– even creating a ruffle in the Robinson household perhaps? And two cheers for the Belfast Telegraph for digging out the story under FoI ( great headline guys, you kept it simple). And to Pink News for, well, celebrating the news.

“First Minister to authorise grants despite wife’s outspoken comments
80,000 to gay groups within the next seven months — despite his wife’s controversial views on homosexuality.”

Officials have also confirmed that Stormont grant-aid totalling £100,000 was allocated to the gay sector during Ian Paisley’s period as First Minister.
It has further been revealed that money from the Office of the First Minister and Deputy First Minister (OFMDFM) helped fund this year’s Gay Pride parade in Belfast.”

So they were all at it! Mind you, the Bel Tel must have got a pretty broad hint when they read that Assembly written answer…
In a reply to a written Assembly question, Mr Robinson and Martin McGuinness stated: “The Coalition on Sexual Orientation (CoSO) contributed to the 2007 and 2008 Belfast Gay Pride Parade, awarding £5,750 and £5,000, from a fund of £230,000 which was awarded by the previous Direct Rule administration.”

Peter doesn’t sound as if he actually enjoyed making the award. We can take in for granted his junior minister isn’t best pleased either . Iris’s stout defender Jeffrey Donaldson has placed himself at the forefront of opposition to gay rights at every turn, resisting the Order making it illegal to refuse male gay partners a hotel room during that last “stick and carrots” period of Direct Rule.

The DUP jibbed at the time but they should thank Peter Hain for giving them political cover today. The fact is, Peter Robinson had no choice but to make that donation and he’ll find it impossible to refuse similar payments in future. His hands are tied. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s privately happy with that. He above all politicians has the wit to know that some battles are over and others are not worth fighting. He will bide his time until the penny drops with his backwoodspersons, including the one who shares the master bedroom with him.

This news is a clear case of the legal constitution taking precedence over the political constitution. Thankfully – and in NI especially – we no longer live in a world where everything a politician says, goes.

  • ??

    has any money been given to republican groups? I understand P.R. is opposed to them as well

  • Rory

    Are you suggesting that Mr Robinson participated in the award of funding to groups that celebrate homosexuality? How very dare you!

  • joeCanuck

    Of course not, Rory. A big boy did it and ran away.

  • Rory

    Minced away surely, Joe?

  • joeCanuck

    Hehehehe

  • Pancho’s Horse

    I have been driven off Pete(Newsletter) Baker’s site so I’ll try here. I have a dream. I think that cow jumpers and gay pride should hold a combined parade in Béal Feirste and they could walk down Royal Avenue hand in hoof and show the assembled masses their love. The children could try to spot which were beasts of the field and which were perverts. If funding is available to all because they pay rates and taxes, I want to put my spake(ulster scots) in for bestialisers and downloaders of pictures of 18 yr old babies being raped. We all pay taxes ergo we deserve funding. I want another horse(younger) and I would like the pink pounders to point me in the direction of the grant shack.

  • Pancho’s Horse

    sorry 18 month old babies

  • LURIG

    Will this funding come from official sources and budgets or be funnelled through back channels? Just curious!

  • DUP Voter

    Good old Peter. Making the right decisions as always!

  • Sam Graham

    Why are we wasting public money on this pink facist facade?

    However, it shows that a lot of lies were told by some Free Presbyterians to cover up when Big Ian was in charge. They are still claiming that he refused to transfer any money. Who is telling the truth? Perhaps Big Ian will bring a law suit against the BT and his own office for libelling him – dont hold your breath.

  • George

    Brian,

    Your blog is fairly inaccurate here. What possible “contitutional” reason would there be to make new payments? Section 75 certainly doesn’t operate that way.

    The reality is that this was a funding package agreed, announced and given before devolution. Such payments over an agreed and finite period of time – this would mean that to release funds it does not require any new Ministerial sign-off.

  • Brian Walker

    George, While it does not directly apply here, section 75 sets important parameters for non-discrimination in the public sector against which policy can be judged publicly and if thought necessary, in judicial review. You can see how it permeates every section of the public sector. Payments to Gay Pride as such are of course not a constitutional or otherwise legal requirement – discretion come into it. But it’ll be hard to stop them or similar payments without causing a huge and I suggest, unprofitable furore. A cry of discrimination would have potency. If Gay Pride payments ceased, the Executive would have to show lack of discrimination to defend itself by producing evidence of payments to similar groups. The “legal constitution” is among other matters, the battery of anti-discrimination laws enforced and interpreted by the independent and quite activist judiciary, which the “political constitution” ie the Assembly and Executive must abide by, like everybody else.

  • Gregory

    To block funding, CP prosecutions, prostitution, public sex, activism along similar lines, etc. If they are tame enough to clear that, who cares?

    Gay is the new straight, Brit officials were meeting the COC in Amsterdam.

    Sometimes a gay org, are pedophiles. The difference between the PNVD and the COC, is as about as wide ideologically as RSF and SF. On the root issues, it is just method.

    And it shows, The PNVD and COC both target uncle tom queers. To be anything, in that business, one has to be a pedophile.

    If a gay rg wants a grant to buy a few frocks, well, is that such a downer, however always beware of “gender seg” with gay rights, because the pedohiles are never far behind.

    If you see gay acronym apartheid, it is a pedo phenomena.

    Gregory

    Pedophilia and the gay movement.Sandfort T.
    A history of literature and views existing within the COC (Cultural and Recreational Center), the major Dutch organization of homosexual men and women, regarding pedophilia and its relationship to homosexuality are discussed, beginning with definite separation between the pedophile and homosexual identities and ending with an abolishment of oppression towards pedophilia, for which the COC is in part responsible. The article argues that the homosexual identify is by no means a “constant” but a fluid identity, based on societal views and conditions. By accepting pedophilia, the COC hopefully will broaden the idea of the gay identity.

    PMID: 3302030 [PubMed – indexed for MEDLINE]

  • Gregory

    “Will this funding come from official sources and budgets or be funnelled through back channels? Just curious! ”

    The COC ( who are a pedophile org) have funding for primary schools in England.

    ( The PNVD broke with the COC over the issue of UN participation)

    The COC are opposed to romantic love, monogamy, gender, faith, family, that kind of thing, they are campaigning for the withdrawal of gay related primary books with gay princes falling in love and ending up as two gay kings drinking ovaltine together in their throne like rocking chairs.

    The PNVD, are just the same but have a better sense of humor, the PNVD wanted to sell pedophilia on a direct line,

    the COC had missed the target date of 2000 for legal pedophilia and decided they needed to go forward doing something else.

    Until fairly recently, public meetings for both parties had parents legally consenting to men using their children for sex,

    The COC use to advise fathers to have sex with their sons, their little sons.

    ‘The gay movement was aware of this, but it had given up and chosen side – it wanted to become straight. The homosexual man had chosen to be wallowing in humiliation under the Straight Man, whom he adored, but who sure as hell hated him anyway.’

    Article ‘The age taboo or how homosexuality went blunt’ by Karl Andersson (in parts based on David Thorstad’s article ‘Man/Boy Love and the American Movement’ published in ‘Male Intergenerational Intimacy, New York 1991); Destroyer #1; May 2006

    http://www.martijn.org/page.php?id=2172006

    Dutch pedo magazine.

    It is that queer enough thing, the reference is to the ‘sell out in the USA, the PNVD people are accusing the COC of betraying the struggle.

    The COC has’t booted a single pedophile, they just campaign on broader issues these days. They’re still a pedophile org.

    All the best

    Gregory

  • Rory

    God! Gregory, you are such a very naughty boy.

    How did you find out about all this kind of stuff?

    I am a Christian but I find that I have strange, disturbing feelings when a good man like you brings up this kind of thing.

    Do you think that it might be possible for me to meet a kind Christian man to discuss my confusion?

    p.s. Do you think that sex is A GOOD THING? My aunty Minnie sez not, but then if you ever met my uncle Jimmy you might understand where she stands (so to speak).

    What do you think?

  • Tazia Doll

    I’m a bit busy at the moment. Being queer is so last millenium, Sarah Palin, now that’s hip, give me a girl who can handle an assault rifle.

    The COC FYI were always pedophiles. They have three LEAs in their pocket in England. They are doing primary schools. Think of it as the national Margaret Hodge program.