“He did sneak out the backdoor..”

Mark Devenport might have thought about reminding the Sinn Féin leader, Gerry Adams, that he had previously responded to a ‘stupid’ question by praising the “indigenous” deal “put together by SF and the DUP” but, with Adams avoiding the cameras, he didn’t get the chance. Instead Mark Devenport reported from Downing St while Martina Purdy sat in the Stormont Live studio.

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  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Pete,

    not just as simple as you thought – that this was just a problem for SF because they got it wrong at the Ard Fheis. The DUP will be now be under pressure to move on P and J. Plug pulling will be delayed (presumably, hopefully) but Robbo will undoubtedly get the message/warning from Grizzly and Gordo.

  • Incredulous

    SF must be mad to think that while the Brits are pushing through a 42-day detention order for terrorist arrests that they are going to go along with them about handing over Policing and Justice to them while the IRA Army Council is still knocking about. Have they no sense whatsoever or are they so up their own holes they cannot see the light of day when they come up with their harebrained ideas?

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Incredulous,

    the old adage of trying to avoid opening up a second front – particularly one that has recently closed probably applies.

    But it is quite incredible how Grizzly can grab Gordo’s attention in the middle of Labour’s mid term crises. He some boy.

  • Sammy

    Grizzly’s going soon.

    How Adams will go! (Straight from The Book of Revelation Revealed – click on my name)

    “I think that the prophecies pointed to the unpleasant good-bye gift of Gerry Adams’ involvement in the cover up of the Paul Quinn murder and to what can only be described as the indifferent complicity of Ian Paisley. This comes from the verse, “he [i.e. the Antichrist] once was, now is not, and yet will come” (Rev 17:8). The Antichrist who “once was, now is not” is a reference to the fact that Adams was acting once as the Antichrist (i.e. during the Troubles) and “now” is no longer acting in that way. “Yet will come” indicates that before the prophecies will end, he will return to being the Antichrist. This has happened now with the death of Paul Quinn and Adams attempt to help cover it up. The Gordon Brown premiership was crucial to understanding that Adams was about to return to his wicked ways and also, very importantly, to understanding how Adams was going to be plagued with informants. How?

    O’Connell’s answer to that question was detailed. “Interpreting the next verses gives a timescale for the fulfilment of the prophecies. “The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits. They are also seven kings,” (Rev 17:9). The seven hills symbolise Rome, built on seven hills, so the author of Revelation is attacking the Roman Empire. The comparable empire in our context and era is the British Empire and the city comparable to Rome is London. So the seven kings come from London.

    Adams to go under Gordon Brown

    “Those kings are described as “Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come” (Rev 17:10). Coincidentally during the Troubles, the Troubles being the key timeframe, five London PMs have fallen: Wilson, Heath, Callaghan, Thatcher, and Major. “One is,” or the sixth PM, must refer to Tony Blair under whom much of the changes to the North took place. Of course, the meaning of “one is” must be further interpreted as meaning that Blair was undefeated when he left office and therefore hadn’t “fallen”. The other five leaders have “fallen”. The seventh king who has not yet come is remarked: “…but when he does come he must remain for a little while” (Rev 17:10). I think that this must refer to Gordon Brown who won’t be PM for long by this account.

    “The fact that Blair is referred to as “one is” demonstrates that the major prophecies occur under his rule while he “is”. But the whole sequence of verses, ante-ceded with the proviso, “This calls for a mind with wisdom,” (Rev 17: 9), making them the most mysterious verses in the Book of Revelation, also signals that the whole framework will have outworked itself by the time of the seventh king, “who has not yet come, but when he does come he must remain for a little while”. So when Gordon Brown, the seventh king, stops being PM, which won’t be long according to the prophecies, Ian Paisley and Gerry Adams will be disgraced and in turmoil, or “thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulphur” (Rev 19:20). The intriguing question is what happens under Gordon Brown that leads to this outcome.

    Gerry Adams’ informer problem

    “The answer to that is that there is an intriguing prophecy that suggests that the beast belongs to the seven kings. “The beast who once was, and now is not, is an eighth king. He belongs to the seven and is going to his destruction.” (Rev 17:11) Could this be the reason why, under Gordon Brown, the seventh king, it all ends in turmoil for Adams and Paisley, the two beasts of Revelation? Adams is the “seven headed” (Rev 13:1) beast of Revelation. Does the seven-headed beast, or the seven headed army council of the IRA it symbolises, “belong” to the British government (or seven kings) such that they can at any moment damage Adams beyond repair. Will this be the way that Adams goes in disgrace? Will the British securocrats end their malign influence on Northern Ireland in their undue haste to convince the world that they defeated the IRA during the Troubles by penetrating and controlling their organisation with informers? Revelation more than hints that this may be so.”

  • joeCanuck

    Keep at it John. With a bit of luck you’ll convince yourself eventually that you’re on to something.

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    Johnny,

    get yourself straight down to Paddy Power – they will give you good odds, my hot tip is Ireland to Beat the All Blacks on Saturday – definitely good odds on that.

  • JoeC

    Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it out. I don’t ask you to believe unquestioningly, but to test my assumptions and conclusions.

    I think you’d like my book, not a lot, but…

  • Sammy

    Ditto

  • It was Sammy Mc Nally what done it

    John,

    a serious religious question. Not being a great bible reader myself but I do overhear bits and pieces from time to time.

    What has the bible got to say on the subject of incest? and how come incest did not make it into the 10 commandments – coveting your neigbour’s wife but nothing about coveting your own sister or even ( worse ) your own mother? As most sexual crimes take place in the home seems a suprise ommision dont you think?

  • Sammy

    I’m afraid you really aren’t a Bible reader. All that stuff is covered by hundreds of laws that Moses wrote after the Ten Commandments.

    But the lawmaking is all ineffective rubbish in the Old Testament in my opinion.

    The New Testament clearly sets the rule that you do unto others as you would have them do unto you. This covers everything.

  • Rory

    If I found myself in a room with you, John, what I would have you do unto me is that you would leave me alone. So, in the spirit of New Testament reciprocity, I now resolve to leave you alone and never to read your ramblings again.

  • In politics you do unto others before they do unto you …

  • USA

    John,
    You should start taking medication as you are obviously a complete nutter.