Trap to get nod over El Tel

The long wait for Steve Staunton’s replacement as Rep. Ireland manager would appear to be over, with several media outlets suggesting that Giovanni Trapattoni agreed in principle to take the job once his current contract (with Austrian club side, Red Bull Salzburg) expires in May. The news will come as a relief to the supporters- and players- who had become increasingly vocal and agitated about the delay in finding a replacement, though I personally was disappointed in the manner in which Terry Venables was left waiting around for such a lengthy period of time. Trapattoni has a distinguished career in club management, having won championship titles in four different countries as manager. His spell as Italian national coach from 2000 to 2004 was not as successful, however, though he has continued in management with Stuttgart, Benfica and Salzburg since leaving the international scene.

As this youtube clip suggests, the Italian’s animated character at press conferences will be quite a contrast to Steve Staunton’s reserved style.

Interestingly, reports also suggest that Liam Brady will assume a role amongst Trapattoni’s backroom team; 28 years ago, Trapattoni as manager of Juventus brought Brady from Arsenal to Italy.

  • francesco

    you all have to learn italian now…

    forza trap

  • pith

    Excellent manager. Way ahead of Venables as a coach. Will be interesting to see how he copes with the step down.

  • brendan,belfast

    I hope i am wrong but i find this a disappointing appointment. Venables at least gets guys playing attacking football and would hit the ground running in terms of player relationships.

    Trap is a defensive style coach and he got caught out against South Korea and Sweden at major tournaments.

    God, i hope i am wrong.

  • kensei

    Trap is a defensive style coach and he got caught out against South Korea and Sweden at major tournaments

    Given our propensity to concede late, late goals, is this a bad thing?

  • janeymac

    Chris, much better Trap rant here with sub-titles. When you see this you might realise why the players would prefer El Tel!

    http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw&feature=related

    Hopefully he will be appointed rather than El Tel. And I wouldn’t worry too much about El Tel’s feelings. He turned down a job because he wanted to do it from London, not because he was waiting for the Irish job.

    Rumour has it that a businessman (possibly Mick Wallace of Wexford Youths fame and big fan of Italian football) is putting up a lot of the money for his salary.

  • Chris Donnelly

    janeymac

    I think Trapattoni is the right man for the job, but I don’t think the FAI (or rather, the Selection Panel) should’ve left Venables hanging around for so long- it only invited ridicule and, in the event of Venables having been appointed, would’ve been a clear signal that he really was the second best candidate in their eyes. As in the case of McLaren for England, that hardly would’ve represented a good starting position.

  • John East Belfast

    janeymac

    “Chris, much better Trap rant here with sub-titles. When you see this you might realise why the players would prefer El Tel! ”

    LOL ! God help them

    He looks and sounds like something from a 1930s Italian fascist rally !

    I wonder how he would ahve got on with Roy Keane

  • Dec

    I wonder how he would ahve got on with Roy Keane

    With 10 domestic League and 6 European trophy medals behind him, quite well I would have thought.

  • circles

    Can’t open that youtube clip but I’m praying his english is better than his german.
    I remember his time with stuttgart as being particularly shite by the way.

  • Twinbrook

    Trap brings a wealth of knowledge about the international game, something we`ve being lacking for quite awhile…

    El Tel without a doubt would also be a good shout but maybe its the baggage that comes along with him…

    Numerous business concerns, Television commentary home and abroad, don`t believe he would be able to fit in a role as a full time manager….

  • circles

    Got that clip open – deary me, the subtitles don’t do him justice! Maybe he’l get to visit one of Dublins famed language schools before he starts talking to our very own “flasche leer”

  • George

    People may laugh at Trap’s German but he got his point across. Everyone knew what he meant and the man was 100% correct about Struuuuuuunz!!!

    I’m a Trap fan and would be delighted with his appointment. Not least because all the players want El Tel.

  • brendan,belfast

    Venables business interests etc shouldn’t come into it. can he do the job? that is the only question which matters.

  • Juan Carr

    …And the answer is, no he can’t. As his record since the mid-eighties clearly shows.

  • republicanstoned

    As Trap doesn´t speak the colonial language of English, I think this is a good opportunity for a new manager to be eduacated in the native Irish language. It might make soccer more accesible to the youth who prefer GAA.

  • Doctor Who

    Kensei

    “Given our propensity to concede late, late goals, is this a bad thing?”

    One match against a Brazillian street kids xi and already Kensei is using the collective “our”.

    Did you really go to Croke Park Kensei, now tell the truth.

  • brendan,belfast

    Venables record “since the mid 80’s” shows that he won the FA Cup with Spurs and took England to a semi final penalty defeat in Euro ’96. when did we last reach the last 4 of a major competition? (no need to answer)

    Also took Australia to within a play off of their first World Cup finals in 2002.

    Venables has a sound track record.

  • pith

    Brenda,belfast,

    It hardly compares with Trapattoni’s record does it?

  • Juan Carr

    Venables record “since the mid 80’s” shows that he won the FA Cup with Spurs and took England to a semi final penalty defeat in Euro ‘96. when did we last reach the last 4 of a major competition? (no need to answer)

    Also took Australia to within a play off of their first World Cup finals in 2002.

    Venables has a sound track record.

    ER…You call that a sound track record???

    England didn’t even have to qualify for the Euros in ’96 and they had a massive home advantage in every game they played.

    Australia SHOULD have qualified for the WC in ’02. The fact that they didn’t was down to Venables’ poor management. As I understand it, he didn’t spend very much time in Australia and the time that he did spend there was mostly spent talking to accountants, handing out business cards, singing in Karaoke bars and topping up his tan.

    Won the FA Cup – so f*cking what?

    Not much of a return for the last 25 years.

    ‘Ee’s a geeeezaah, innit? And not one that seems to give much of a toss about football anymore.

  • brendan,belfast

    Winning the FA Cup is F*** all? winning cups? thought that was what it is all about.

    Engerland didn’t have to qualify for ’96 but they did come out of their group, then beat Spain then take Germany to penalites. That ain’t bad going in anyone’s book.

    He may be a Dagenham Dave but holding that against him smacks of racism.

  • Dec

    And the answer is, no he can’t. As his record since the mid-eighties clearly shows.

    Whilst his record since the his mid 70s – mid 80s heyday isn’t as impressive, 4 domestic titles and a UEFA Cup isn’t too bad.

  • George

    Brendan,
    it would have been Australia’s second World Cup appearance, not first.

    This is an Australian team that had enough talent to give the eventual World Cup winners a real go four years later in Germany.

    Dec,
    Jack Charlton’s record in the 70s and 80s isn’t bad but his day is over. So is Venables’. I just don’t think he has the hunger anymore but I’m sure he’ll take the one million + a year contract if offered.

  • De

    George

    We (or more accurately, I) have our wires crossed here. I was referring to Trappatoni. My mistake, as at time of posting, I thought that was to whom Juan was referring to.

  • Twinbrook

    to the lurker who seems to follow me around this board….

    Tel`s was at times at loggerheads with the English FA over his business interests and especially when these same interests led him to court a cause of embarrassment to the FA at the time…

    Now it seems only logical to expect a full time manager not to be side tracked by any other issues…

    oh wonderful T`internet creation and warrior…

  • Twinbrook

    and by the FA Cup isn`t the greatest Cup competition in the world…..

    I suppose that every manager that achieves the honour of having a team capture this trophy should then be in the running…..

  • Irish In Sydney

    You’ve all got your wires crossed – Venables was the Aus manager trying to win qualification for the 1998 World Cup, not 2002 and it was 8 years later that the Socceroos took the eventual world champions to the limit. The squad was different – less household names, much less strength in depth, Bosnich in goal (although a young Kewell and Viduka when they were still half-decent). They were unlucky not to qualify but yes, ultimately Venables reign ended in failure.

    On-topic, Trappatoni is an awesome appointment for a relatively poor-performing team. He obviously sees potential…

  • Irish In Sydney

    Should also mention that under El Tel, Australia drew with Brazil, beat Norway, Mexico, South Korea – all of whom were at the 98 World Cup – although they were also hammered by Brazil and beaten by Saudi Arabia.

  • simon

    Trapattoni is a real capture by Ireland, even if he is costing a reported 2 million per year.

    Has a wealth of experience and with a solid core of experienced premiership players to start with, he has the potential to repair the damage done by Stan and move the team forward.

    Trapattoni also plays a very ‘hands-on approach’ with the underage teams, so hopefully will be visiting the 6 counties quite a bit to eye the talent 🙂

  • kensei

    Dr Who

    One match against a Brazillian street kids xi and already Kensei is using the collective “our”.

    I was using it before. How about that?

    One match yes. Which is 1/5 of my live football viewing. I’m sure I’ll see another at some point but I think I probably need to go see Leeds again first.

    I enjoy footie but not obsessed. Doesn’t mean I don’t want to see my club or country win, though. But if it makes you happy run with it.

    Did you really go to Croke Park Kensei, now tell the truth.

    I know it burns you I’ve destroyed your only line of argument, but I never lie. It was freezing and the highlight of the first half was a Mexican wave going around the ground 3 times in a row, which says all you need to about the football. The second half was considerably better.

  • Gréagóir O’ Frainclín

    Great appointment! From the rediculous to the sublime, from Staunton to Trappattoni.
    Much rather have ‘il Duce’ than ‘el Tel’. El Tel is a bit of a Del boy, in all honesty, loves the money and the limelight!
    Where as his old boy Trappattoni’s takes his football more seriously. His CV is very impressive. Looks a robust hardy old git too. He’ll definitely scare the shit outta the boys. No more lazy arse careless play on the field else the Trap will give them a rap!

  • Gréagóir O’ Frainclín

    Trapattoni to lead the way….

    “I am the way the light…..”

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0213/ireland1.html

  • circles

    I think that this guy, Trappatoni, is over the hill and over-rated. Much better to have a young, dynamic manager like Nigel Worthington. Worthington is a smart cookie as he showed when he negotiated a small fortune from the IFA-I think we got the better deal alright.

  • Donnacha

    Maith an fear, trap. He looks very much like Father Romeo Sensini in the picture, don’t you think? Or perhaps a more stylish Eamonn De Buitlear.

  • Diluted Orange

    Have to say, as a Northern Ireland supporter, I’m elated you guys have got Trappatoni.

    He’s done nothing since the late 80s. He’s the Italian equivalent of Howard Kendall – would you have been happy with that appointment?

    His last stab at international management says it all. Couldn’t get Italy out of their group in Euro’04, yet Lippi could get the same team to win the WC 2 years later … Anyway, at least he’ll be better than Steve ‘The Gaffer’ Staunton!

  • polluted orange

    Diluted Orange? -more like Sour Grapes.

  • david

    ‘Diluted Orange? -more like Sour Grapes. ‘

    🙂 🙂

    We should have poached that hugely successful manager Nigel worthlesston from the wee 6, lol.

  • kensei

    He’s done nothing since the late 80s. He’s the Italian equivalent of Howard Kendall – would you have been happy with that appointment?

    Trap:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giovanni_Trapattoni#Honours

    Kendall:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Kendall#Honours

    Stan:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Staunton#Honours

    I think we’ll cope.

  • Diluted Orange

    Sour grapes?! Hilarious! I’m not the one petty enough to choose not to support the country I was born in.

  • lee

    ‘Sour grapes?! Hilarious! I’m not the one petty enough to choose not to support the country I was born in.’

    Point being, we are supporting the country we were born in.

    Its the same as the scarf Trap was holding up.

    An ireland scarf.

    The same country that has players from Derry,Belfast & Dublin playing in their international team.

    Got a problem !!! Contact FIFA !

    We support Ireland – you support the Rangers 2nd 11.

  • Alan

    Ireland is, in the eyes of the world except our wee Unionists, one country with two states. Personally I support both teams. The 26 county team is for Irishmen; the North’s team is for British Irishmen. Being simply an Irishman the South’s team is my 1st choice. But I also like to see our comrades do well for the 06. They wear the sacred green of Ireland too if I remember correctly.

    Trap is a great appointment. One of the world’s most successful coaches. Not much different to Capello and only a few years older.

  • Gréagóir O’ Frainclín

    “Have to say, as a Northern Ireland supporter, I’m elated you guys have got Trappatoni.

    He’s done nothing since the late 80s. He’s the Italian equivalent of Howard Kendall – would you have been happy with that appointment?”

    Sour grapes?….The familar taste of very bitter oranges morelike!

    Uuuugghhhhh!

  • Gréagóir O’ Frainclín

    Regarding Cappello…

    Capello has won about 9 titles I think whereas Trapattoni has won 19 titles.

    “At the end of the day,” we got a marvellous deal landing Trapattoni who has a great track record. Thanks to an Irish billionaire too!

  • Juan Kerr

    I have to say, and I’ve had this suspicion for quite a while now, that looking back on the 2002 cup, it looks awfully dodgy and I think either something went awfully wrong on an awful lot of occasions in a marvellously coincidental manner, or referrees were taking bribes. I submit the eventual exits of spain and Italy as exhibit A and Exhibit B.

    I fully believe that the fix was on in our 2nd round match against Spain because South Korea did not want to play Spain in the quarter final as it would look too suspicious if they beat them. Hence Spain had 2 goals disallowed aginst us and we were awarded 2 penalties (yet still failed to get through. The 2nd penalty we got was a perfectly good one, I can’t remember much about the 1st one, but as far as I can recall Spain’s 2 disallowed goals were perfect and they should have beaten us about 4-0 in that game, instead of it going to penalties like it did.

    Spain then went on to have THREE- yes THREE – goals disallowed against S Korea in the quarter finals. I didn’t see this game myself but I am told the 3 goals again were perfectly good goals but were all ruled out for offside and S Korea eventually won the game.

    I don’t recall the Italy exit, but I’m told it was equally suspicious, a lot of dodgy decisions and goals disallowed for offside etc. Of course people never have much sympathy for Italians when it comes to accusations of corruption but my point is that I wouldn’t worry about Italy going out of the 2002 World cup early, because I think that whole tournament was corrupted to enable Japan & S Korea to get as far in the tournament as could realistically be explained, and I’m sure FIFA had plenty to do with it because of the amount of money at stake in making football a popular sport in Asia.