UUP man breaks ranks to lay into Ritchie over handling of loyalist funds…

AFTER the recent Margaret Ritchie-UUP love-in, David McNarry’s vicious attack on the Social Development Minister over her handling of the withdrawal of funds from UDA-linked projects seems curiously out of step with the rest of his party, especially as his party leader is backing her version of events in the row over the loyalist scheme.

  • skinbop

    completely off topic – but was surprised one of the big stories this week is not covered here anywhere.

    thats the seagate closure in limavady by the way…

  • it’s no surprise that David ‘We [The Orange Order] bring this ‘province’ to a standstill” McNarry is rushing to the defence of the UDA. This is after all the same David McNarry who’s sickened to his stomach to hear Irish being spoken in Stormont.

    Sectarianism as sectarianism does….

  • Yeah what-ever happened to that Ritchie-Robinson thing?

  • cut the bull

    Like OILibhear Im not at all surprised at David Mc Narry’s remarks.

    His helpful input into the Garvaghy rd and Ormeau Rd stand offs was to threaten every body that the Orange Order would hold a parade through Belfast before marching up the Falls Rd to a rallying point in Andytown. Very wise indeed.

    That was around the time he chanted the mantra about bringing the province to a stand still.
    which almost happened with motorways,roads to Aldergrove and the Port fo larne being blocked.

    The end result of this was still no parade down Garvaghy or the Ormeau Roads but the almost total collapse of Larne Harbour millions of pounds lost as investors seen this state as a political backward entity stuck in a bigoted timewarp.

    Any way David I enjoyed your input. Who’s next is there any with any thing sensible to say.

  • Hogan

    McNarry is an interesting creature. His hardline views would have him in a natural home of the DUP but it is obvious his disdain snobbery keeps him in the traditional party of government. Same goes for Burnside.

    He was obviously spooked by the coviviality of events at the weekend.

    Does this guy have the political antennae of a retarded walrus?

    I know he is of the opinion that closer co-operation with SDLP is not in the UUP’s interest but did he not see the heat the Dupper/Shinner axis took over their attempts to attack MR for standing up to para – sites/militaries?

    Maybe he did and thought ‘i’ll have some of that’.

    So be it!

  • Hogan

    Maybe my spelling resembles that of a retarded walrus! 🙂

  • Porlock

    A few days ago Sir Reg was telling his conference delgates—in reference to the damage that internal disunity and do-it-yourself press releases had done to the party— that “those days are over.”

    He has to sort out the McNarry problem; preferably sacking him as chief whip and throwing him to the wolves. Nobody in the UUP gives a damn about McNarry and Empey has nothing to lose, and much to gain, by sorting him out.

    Porlock

  • Bemused

    McNarry a renowned nasty piece of work – comments entirely unsurprising in the circumstances.

  • Turgon

    This latest from McNarry is unsurprising. It might be criticism for Ritchie’s decision being legally challengable or such like but the perception will undoubtably be that he is complaining about stopping money to the UDA. McNarry should have known that this would happen and I have a suspicion that he does know this but does not care.

    This episode seems to be more about McNarry being annoyed by what transpired at the UUP conference; that he seems to be loosing the argument within the UUP about which direction to take next and that his leadership chances are continually receeding.

    I do wonder if McNarry would jump ship if Osama bin Allister and the prodiban do set up a party. He would, however, be very unlikely to get to be leader but I guess he could be deputy leader and assembly spokesperson. Although I have said before that a big name defection to the prodiban would be very welcome I do have some anxieties about the possibility that McNarry could be such a big defection.

  • Mark Fartlighter

    Turgon,

    Whats the story about the new unionist party / grouping? any updates?

    McNarry, hmmm, an angry man methinks.

  • BonarLaw

    Hogan

    “His hardline views would have him in a natural home of the DUP”

    No, he fits perfectly into the UUP.

  • Does this guy have the political antennae of a retarded walrus?

    The animal rights people will be on to you for insulting walruses.

    McNarry is possibly the most unpleasant man in Northern Ireland politics, but sadly he represents a strand of UUP opinion, along with Burnside and wannabe non-MLA Michael Copeland which is basically too stuck up to join the DUP.

    McNarry’s defence of UDA money fits comfortably in with Burnside’s past discussions about becoming UDA Press Officer and Michael Copeland’s wannabe 1916 Somme Colonel attitude down the Newtownards Road.

    I know most ‘decent people’ in the UUP can’t stand him, but he did get elected on their ticket so he’s their responsibility, like it or not.

    I do wonder if McNarry would jump ship if Osama bin Allister and the prodiban do set up a party

    Turgon, what does ‘prodiban’ mean. I mean, I know who they are, but where does the word come from. A google search produces only Slugger and a few documents in Hungarian!

  • gareth mccord

    he is nothing short of bigoted loyalist who is an embarrassment to the human race!!

  • Nevin

    Sammy, it’s the Taliban from .. Tullyban.

  • cut the bull

    If David McNarry ever decides to take a break from all the hustle and bustle of what is the political reality of the Assembly.

    He may in his free time consider joining the Pride of the Raven flute band and becoming hte band spokesman.

    Most of the band spokesmen talk non sense and are wary of people knowing who they are.

    At least he not concerned about people knowing who he is quiet happy talking non sense in relation to parades. I remeber him wanted the Orange Order to have a protest parade up the Falls Rd to a rallying point at Andytown. He’d fit in well there.

  • BonarLaw

    Sammy Morse

    what makes you think McNasty could fit into the DUP we have seen since devolution? The natural home for his attitude and politics is firmly within the UUP. One more well managed election from the DUP (ie well controlled candidate selection) will complete the process from old to new DUP and leave McNasty and his ilk stranded within the wannabe party of unionism.

  • veritas

    Empey should learn from Trimbles mistakes,if there is a cancer -cut it out-dont let it grow.He should eject him and allow him to join the bnp or some other group of supremacists.

  • GavBelfast

    McNarry comes across as a supremely unimpressive figure.

    His ill-tempered walkout from a live Radio Ulster programme a couple of years back typified him.

    Reg: learn from Trimble.

  • BonarLaw

    “learn from Trimble”- a phrase I thought I’d never, ever hear!

  • veritas

    Bonar Law
    suggesting that he learns not to repeat the mistakes that trimble made in allowing dissenters to effectively create party dis-unity.

  • Interested Observer

    So the Lion of Strangford strikes again. What a guy. Of course, there are a number of explanations for his behaviour:

    1. he is a sectarian bigot

    2. he likes to think that loyalist thugs are his friends

    3. he wants to mobilise the vast numbers of UUC delegates who voted for him during the leadership election.

    Margaret Ritchie received a standing ovation on Saturday. This complete prick has decided that he knows better and issued his Press Release without any authorisation. Just to make it even more interesting, he released it the same day that UUP MLAs received a letter from the aforementioned Lion of Strangford instructing them not to speak to the media about opposition.

    Daithi McNarry, Lion of Strangford – captain of the Stormont Star Trek Appreciation Society, poster-boy for the Irish Language Act lobby, devotee of Iris Robinson’s speeches on fisheries and now business counsultant for the UDA.

  • UUP Future (?)

    McNarry’s views are the total opposite of the 90%+ of the UUP members who rightfully gave Margaret Ritchie a standing ovation last Saturday.

    What kind of party allows its own “Chief Whip” (ROTFL!) to attack the views of the Party grassroots like this??

    If Reg has any credibility left he has got to show some balls and come down hard on McNarry here.

  • Sammy, it’s the Taliban from .. Tullyban

    Duh! Me stupid boy.

    1. he is a sectarian bigot

    2. he likes to think that loyalist thugs are his friends

    3. he wants to mobilise the vast numbers of UUC delegates who voted for him during the leadership election.

    The first two are correct. The third is just bitchy. But funny.

  • Comrade Stalin

    I remember McNarry as the champion of the Loyalist Commission, which appeared to be a mechanism to achieve nothing other than allow people like Johnny Adair to be seen in the company of unionist politicians and churchmen, and thus buff up their public image.

    Interested Observer summed it up well, the man likes to think he’s cool because he hangs around with tattooed thugs. That is no doubt the motivation behind this latest outburst. Hopefully his grave misjudgement of public opinion in Northern Ireland will lead to the end of his political career.

  • The Raven

    Skinbop wrote: “completely off topic – but was surprised one of the big stories this week is not covered here anywhere. thats the seagate closure in limavady by the way…”

    Skinbop, I must agree, but actually, it’s SO NOT here, that I am beginning to think we separately dreamt it, and indeed it was all a baaaaaaad dream.

  • Truth & Justice

    The reality is the UUP thought they would go with the popular route yet the reality is if the desision back fires and is declared ilegal then they will have egg on their faces again once again it also shows the splits in the UUP are still there.

  • Sean Og

    McNarry is great company. I met him a few times and he is really good craic. I like the man.

    The timing of this press release shows however that as a politician he hasn’t a f**king clue!

  • URQUHART

    T&J: “the reality is if the desision back fires and is declared ilegal then they will have egg on their faces again”

    If the decision is declared to be illegal it shows that the people who drew it up are idiots. Margaret Ritchie still did the right thing in stopping the funding and the UUP (apart from the dullard McNarry) did the right thing in supporting her.

    A question – are Farset really going to take the Minister of the Department that they most need to do their work, to court? If they do, they might just be more stupid than the people who got them into this mess (UDA). Surely if they are actually interested in making a difference in these hard-to-reach areas they will take Margaret Rithcie at her word, come back to her with ideas for legitimate programmes, and have them funded???

  • URQUHART

    that should read, ‘it shows that the people who drew up the contract are idiots’. Sorry

  • The Raven

    URQUHART wrote: “Surely if they are actually interested in making a difference in these hard-to-reach areas they will take Margaret Rithcie at her word, come back to her with ideas for legitimate programmes, and have them funded???”

    Well perhaps..if the funding is still there and hasn’t been subsumed into another budget. And what do you mean by “legitimate” programmes? Was their contention not that these programmes were legitimate? Indeed, wouldn’t any programme put forward by Farset now be tainted – incorrectly, I might add – and have the screaming Nolan masses baying for blood? I can almost hear “Outraged of Holywood” now…”this is just funding the UDA by the backdoor”.

    (Day 3 of the Search-for-Seagate-on-Slugger-watch)

  • Turgon

    Martin Fartlighter,

    Sorry to take so long to answer, I have been busy this evening. I am no wiser than anyone else about a new grouping. Sadly contrary to my frequent appearences here (which demonstrate only that I have to spend too much time away from home with work and that I have no life) I am not in the counsels of Osama Bin Allister or any other prodiban leaders. I am a humble prodiban foot soldier waiting in my cave in the Belfast extension of Ballymenastan for the great leaders to begin to follow in George Mallory’s heoric footsteps, though I may be moving caves to Fermanaghasatan soon.

    Sammy Morse,
    The term prodiban was coined by someone other than me. I just thought it was fun and quicker to type than new unionist grouping and since everyone now knows what I mean it is also more informative. Also, I do not have very right wing views on social and economic matters and so find the term “right wing unionist” somehow inappropriate for me.

  • NIRSucks (in Romania)

    Just to point out that “Prodi” is a lake in Eastern Hungary, not far from the Romanian border.

    “Prodiban” in Hungarian means “in Prodi”.

    So now you know. 😉

  • URQUHART

    Raven, Margaret Ritchie was very clear that farset is legit and an important delivery agent.

    ‘legitimate programmes’ are programmes that aren’t designed to buy off UDA thugs.

  • Pastures New

    Interested Observer/Porlock calls it likes they sees it. Wholeheartedly agree.

    Time he was moved on by Reg. After all, McNarry recognises how transient a role the Chief Whip’s post is. Among his many walk outs in his career is his recent walk out on the Chief Whip’s job itself. My understanding is that he resigned a while back and actually submitted the letter of resignation. Perhaps someone in CunningPlan House should re-acquaint this buffoon with his obvious desire to move on. What with all this stomping about he’s clearly unhappy… perhaps it’s time for him to consider pastures new (BNP?).

  • The Raven

    Urquhart wrote: “Raven, Margaret Ritchie was very clear that farset is legit and an important delivery agent. ‘legitimate programmes’ are programmes that aren’t designed to buy off UDA thugs.”

    I don’t doubt it. Now read what I wrote, again. My implication was that until this dies down, and dies down to a footnote in Assembly business, anything delivered by Farset is going to be tainted in the public eye.

    As I basically said above, this is an incorrect perception, but perception is everything. Anything Farset is funded for from here on in is going to be scrutinised to death by everyone from the fools on the hill to their familiars in the NIAO.

    *Just* in case the UDA get biscuits with their tea when they hire a room for a meeting.

    (Day 3 of the Search for Seagate on…oh fuck it, why bother…it’s only jobs outside of Belfast and Derry…who cares?)

  • what makes you think McNasty could fit into the DUP we have seen since devolution?Surely if they are actually interested in making a difference in these hard-to-reach areas they will take Margaret Rithcie at her word, come back to her with ideas for legitimate programmes, and have them funded???

  • Tkmaxx

    McNarry is a fool – out of step with public opinion -not that he ever knew or cared what that was – two he is out of step with his party – not that ever was a bother either and thirdly he is out of step with the issue – the man is an idiot. As for Farset -despite their protestations – they were irresponsible not issuing protective notice – and anyone in DSD – OFMDFM or Finance or DSD not noticing this does not undertand employment law -and as I have said before go to court – there is clearer thinking there.

  • Interested Observer

    Just to confirm what Pastures New said last night. McNarry did ‘temporarily’ resign as chief whip in June of this year after a difference of opinion with the Leadership. The ‘misunderstanding’ was (unfortunately)cleared up over a weekened and he re-appeared as Chief Whip at a Tuesday group meeting – he missed the Monday group meeting as he was still throwing toys out of the pram.

    All that said, it is fairly clear that even before he decided to break yesterday with the Party’s support for Margaret Ritchie, a no-confidence vote in the Chief Whip was coming from a very disgruntled Assembly Group. After all, there is only so many times that a Chief Whip can tell his MLA colleagues to “f*ck” themselves (I kid you not) before they decide enough is enough.

  • dewi

    What foolishness is this? So politically bizarre – to what constituency is he pandering through this? Very odd and off message.
    Sammy and Turgon – Devenport used the P word on the tele – laughed out loud – someone needs to claim invention…

  • BonarLaw

    Interested Observer

    the previous Chief Whip wasn’t adverse to physically pushing rebellous UUP MLAs against the nearest wall. Perhaps somewher in Cunningplan House is a job description that requires a total c**t to fill the post.

    On that bais it is clear McNasty got the job on merit alone.

  • Pastures New

    Truth & Justice talks of splits in the UUP. Well, kinda. The UUP is splitting away from McNarry (for innumerable valid reasons, including that outlined by IO).

    McNarry misunderstands sectarianism to be ‘real unionism’. His principled stand against Irish? He has been heard to say ‘I f*****g hate everything Irish’ and then seem pleased about it – as though that’s a political position. (*Hint* It’s not.)

    Referring to republicans as Klingons and the SDLP as lead players in a pan-nationalist front is just loopy. And attacking an individual which the party leadership has so publicly backed in the executive and on the floor of its party conference makes no political sense. (Though it can be explained by a personal antipathy to the idea of fraternising with Catholics/nationalists; or out of the desire to defend the honour of UPRG/UDA.)

    There’s very little that’s political about this man. Peddling sectarian tripe as ‘real unionism’ does no one any good whatsoever.

    IMHO – he talks alot about unionist unity, but in reality he’s got to be the most divisive figure in Unionism. The UUP could do no better than have a second (pre-signed?)resignation letter waved under his nose – if only to show the world that the reform process is well and truly underway.

  • Interested Observer

    Bonar Law – I’d be fairly relaxed about chief whips slapping rebellious MLAs around the head etc. By Westminster standards it is all fairly mild.

    What makes this Chief Whip different is his somewhat unorthodox interpretation of the role i.e. instead of being the Leader’s enforcer he thinks it is about providing him a platform to rant in KKK fashion. The role of a Chief Whip is to shut the f*ck up precisely so he can tell others to shut the f*ck up.

    If the Leadership and the Assembly Group are intimidated by Daithi at Monday’s Group meeting, it is time to turn the lights out. Daithi McNarry has publicly undermined the Leader and the entire Party after Saturday. On Monday he should be told, in his own words to the Assembly Group on a past occasion, to “go and f*ck yourself”.