A November Night Revisited

Paddy Kielty is the star in the latest showing of the Marie Jones play ‘A Night in November.’ The setting for the play is the infamous World Cup qualifier between the two Irelands, played at Windsor Park in November 1993. Kielty’s own observations about how the main theme of the play remains relevant today have been attacked by the (unduly sensitive?) chairperson of the Amalgamation of NI Supporters, Gary McAllister, who in a moment of petulance remarked, “I think you’ll struggle to find any Northern Ireland supporter who would pay to watch that play.”Kielty pondered two questions which prompted the attack from Gary McAllister. Firstly, he wondered whether or not the Republic of Ireland team would be applauded onto a Windsor Park field today, even 14 years after the original match; and secondly, he wondered whether catholics/ nationalists would support the Northern team in such a match or the Republic, even though they were born in the north.

Innocuous enough questions, if you ask me.

Kielty’s own conclusion, that people are still entrenched over their soccer allegiances due to the sport’s working class roots here, is hardly controversial. But that, in itself, doesn’t resolve the queries he raises, which, as we have discussed here before, have more to do with the willingness- or otherwise- to afford equal respect to the national identities of the two communities residing in the north of Ireland.

  • Self-Righteous

    Visited slugger for the first time today in at least 6 months …OMG..what a shower of sad w@nkers you all really are…Cyber Warriors….sheesshh!

  • Then don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.

  • martin

    The play gets an excellent review in today’s Irish news – just booked for next week.

  • Same as the Maze, all talk but there is absolutely no doubt that, as they haven’t got 2 pennies to rub together, that’s where they’ll end up

    Tell you what, let’s have a wee bet on that with all proceeds going to charidee.

    I bet you 20 of the Queen’s finest that the Northern Ireland football team, Ulster Rugby and the GAA “do not end up” at the Maze.

    If I’m right, you send a donation to the Northern Ireland Cerebral Palsy team

    If I’m wrong, I’ll pay up to any sporting charity of your choice.

    So, you up for it, fancy putting your money where your mouth is?

  • wallace


    You said over on your forum

    “The more they spout their bilious lies, the stronger we become”

    Who is/are they? Northern Ireland supporter Marie Jones ?

    Are you a football fan or a piss poor politician?

  • kensei

    “And you seem incapable of understanding that FIFA eligibility rules have nothing whatsoever to do with the GFA.

    FIFA resent political intervention – as Mr Dermot Aherne will testify.”

    Actually, it has direct impact because it impacts on citizenship.

    Willing to take my bet. Proceeds can go to charity of choice. Seeing as FIFA has already stated that people here can play for either team, it’s pretty tipped in my favour, but well, you clearly know better.

    “You really do wonder when the penny will drop with republicans. Meantime, they do a great job dividing Ireland.”

    Course, you can just address Dr Who instead of addressing the points I raise. And as you have absolutely no interest in a United Ireland regardless of what I do, why bother with this line?

  • chewnic

    Realist et al would say that the IFA were not responsible for the division of Irish Football.
    The attached sourced from the FAI on the creation of the FAI makes for interesting reading

    ‘However, there was always a feeling among clubs from outside the Belfast area that the IFA favoured Ulster based, Protestant, clubs – especially when selecting sides for international matches. Despite this, it was not until after the 1916 Rising and the rise of Nationalism that southern affiliates, such as the Leinster FA, took an aggressive approach in their dealings with the IFA. The clubs often threatened to break away, and in early 1921, Bohemians, St. James’s Gate and Shelbourne all withdrew from the Irish League, though all three sides decided to remain involved in Cup competitions.

    The matter reached crisis-point when later that year, the IFA reneged on a promise to play the IFA Cup final replay between Shelbourne and Glenavon in Dublin and scheduled the match for Belfast. Shelbourne refused to comply and forfeited the Cup. A meeting of southern associations and clubs was arranged and on June 1 1921, the Football Association of the Irish Free State (FAIFS) was formed in Molesworth Hall in Dublin.’

    Illuminating that the sectarian and discriminatory actions of the IFA in Belfast led to football on the island becoming divided.

    80 years later? ,not much has changed, has it?

  • willowfield

    Actually, it has direct impact because it impacts on citizenship.

    As I understand, people from NI were eligible to be Southern citizens before the GFA, so what is the “direct impact”?