Ford predicts two seat gain…

Interesting. I am not sure I would have entirely bought this line from David Ford last night, but after today’s Ipsos – Mori poll for the Belfast Telegraph, the idea that Alliance is on something of a resurgence holds some water. Whatever about the big game, he still faces a tough challenge in South Antrim – though he thinks he may just nick it off the SDLP.

  • SuperSoupy

    I was at a candidate meeting held by ‘Crumlin Together’ last night and the barely coherent Tommy Burns put on one of the worst public displays I’ve ever witnessed.

    Ford and McLaughlin did the business, Kinaham gave a good also ran. Even Whitcroft came across better than the stumbling Burns.

    Lucky for the SDLP the attendence was so poor. Maybe unlucky the local media was there to catch him being ripped apart by a local youth worker and youth?

  • Mick Fealty

    Interesting. If McLaughlin can consolidate in Crumlin, Toome, and the newer parts of Glengormley, you would think that leaves Burns and Ford for a nervous 11th count face off. But the figures in the Mori poll suggest that the SDLP will be more competitive than we may have given them credit for.

  • SuperSoupy

    And in case anyone thinks they were shinner plants – a 12ish year old girl (wonderfully 15 kids came in from the local youth club meeting downstairs) leapt to her feet to defend the local youth workers Burns decided to attack.
    Then the volunteer youth worker got stuck in too.

  • Crataegus

    Mick

    Crumlin town has become an extension of West Belfast. It would be partisan. Burns vote will be in the countryside and among the families that have been there for generations. His father was the local councillor before him. I’ve crossed swords with the pair of them over the years. Burns is very average but from what I have seen he does work and will have a solid base.

    Ford’s problem is with the move from UUP to DUP there will not be UUP transfers and probably two Unionists sitting without quotas and possibly with more votes than he has.

    He really needs to increase his vote or he won’t last to the 11th count this time round.

  • SuperSoupy

    I will readily admit that Burns seems a very decent man. A ‘local’. Utterly incomprehensible and lacking in any political ability but very vice.

    He is a crap public speaker and incredibly managed to offend the photo-op youngsters that came.

    I’m sure the Antrim Guardian will have a report on it, just like they had a front page story on him fighting with his running mate.

  • BonarLaw

    SuperSoupy

    re. Burns- are we talking about a Walker-esque performance or has a new low been set?

  • Crataegus

    SuperSoupy

    IF the mori poll is anything like correct you don’t have to worry about the SDLP share of the Nationalist vote. They will take a seat in S Antrim and so will SF as will David Ford. The party that will lose will be the UUP!

  • SuperSoupy

    He also ended up being shouted at by a local business man, resident of Main St and lifelong Crumlinite (supported by his table of local business men) over his crap response to an ASB question.

    Most of the panel was smirking.

  • SuperSoupy

    Bonar,

    I have never seen a worse public display.

    I can see the McClelland’s point.

  • darth rumsfeld

    you should have been at Billy Armstrong’s “Let’s talk” in Magherafelt last week.

  • SuperSoupy

    As for Ford:

    He dropped the tribalism and schooling message completely when speaking to the people of Crumlin. Not a peep on this schools stuff last night. Horses for course?

    Telling it like it is, unless it’ll cost you a vote?

  • Crumlin town has become an extension of West Belfast. It would be partisan.

    Not true and certainly not that meeting – Crumlin is a mixed town which happens to have a Catholic majority and there is a significant Alliance vote there. As well as SF, SDLP, UUP, DUP…

  • SuperSoupy

    Sammy,

    Where you there? Why did David clam up on the schooling question? Because the people without a choice in Crumlin are those that can’t get into the local school and those denied the choices in education that others receive?

  • He dropped the tribalism and schooling message completely when speaking to the people of Crumlin. Not a peep on this schools stuff last night. Horses for course?

    You asked for this one, Soupy…

    …when you have a track record of serving the community as a local elected representative for 14 years, you have plenty of local issues to talk to a local election meeting about. Which you might not have if you’ve recently carpet-bagged into the area from 60 miles away.

    I can see the McClelland’s point.

    From some of the stories I’ve heard about 2003, so can I. But it’s still not smart politics.

  • Where you there?

    No, but I heard a post match report.

  • SuperSoupy

    If he told you “Me and Mitchel were the only people on the pitch” he was right.

  • SuperSoupy

    Sammy,

    When the questions are from the floor you talk about them. Schools/transport was his weakest element IMO, he couldn’t play the APNI card because integrated post-primary provision exists in Crumlin while all others and those not accepted are on the bus to Belfast.

  • Elk

    “Not true and certainly not that meeting – Crumlin is a mixed town which happens to have a Catholic majority and there is a significant Alliance vote there. As well as SF, SDLP, UUP, DUP…”

    95% Catholic I believe.

  • 95% Catholic I believe

    75% actually.

  • BonarLaw

    Did I just hear Mitchell McLaughlin on Talkback call for postal workers not to process Water Charge bills?

    The Post Office Act 1953 is very clear on this- a PO official either opening or delaying mail is committing a criminal offence and in a Crown Court faces a maximum of 2 years imprisonment. Mitchell should ask some of his legal friends about his criminal liability for incitement.

    This is a clear act of criminality. Let’s hear a DUP view on how this inputs into their assessment of the Shinners’ fitness for government.

  • Redmo

    SuperSoupy, you are as tiresome as you are predictable.

    The partisan stuff is grand, but it’s much more interesting to read if you just try to act a little less obnoxious.

  • letter opener

    Just a wee word… the 1953 post office act still stands although not without revisions and not in its entirety. The delayal of mail is a very serious offence and the offender always gets the book thrown at them.

    Interestingly since this site is NI based there is a get-out on the opening of mail as the National (ie UK) returned letter centre is in tomb street belfast where 300 or so staff are paid to open mail contrary to the 1953 act!!!!!

    Formerly there were returned letter branches at major sorting offices before the RLC was set up in January 1993.

    And yes there is cctv!!!!

  • letter opener

    For those who havent had the pleasure of opening up to 1500 items of lost mail a day i will endeavour to enlighten y’all!

    Mostly its crap and fliers and bills and an unspeakable amount of pornography!! After that it contains anything from live rounds of ammunition,vast amounts of foreign currency, letters to felons stinking of cheap perfume, threats and stuff from complete wing nuts! That doesnt even scratch the surface!