IRA decom on it's way…

At last. The IRA is to finally dump all weapons. According to the Guardian it is to start within days, and should be complete within the next two weeks. The Sunday Times reports that preparitory internal moves have begun already. What most striking is that this move is now not likely to be the deal maker or breaker. The DUP, the party democratically enfranchised to pass or fail the IRA’s moves, has a longer term game in mind. The activity or non-activity of the IRA is the key factor. Off record, even their most vehement critics believe they’re playing in the right direction, so far.

  • Denny Boy

    Good news!

    I thought they might welsh again (with apologies to the Welsh).

  • Alan McDonald

    Yes, it is good news.

  • Comrade Stalin

    I’ve a couple of reasons to be cheerful this evening – the above announcement, but also the news that Ian Paisley is willing to meet with Sean Brady to talk about the ongoing sectarian attacks that are happening. Granted, it should have happened a long time ago, but any remote signs of willingness on the part of unionism to reach out so that we can all face down paramilitarism together have to welcomed.

  • Henry94

    Paisley’s statement about the sectarian violence was a step forward too. The main division in our country is between those willing to use violence and those who oppose them.

  • Visioneer

    They’ll have it ready for the Labour Party Conference.

    However it will never change Unionists thoughts on the game.

  • fair_deal

    Better late than never has a hollow ring when it is 1800 people too late.

    Good, get on with it, do it properly, cease criminality and go away/disband and the same goes for the rest of them.

    PS And if you genuinely want devolution back sooner rather than later allow truly independent witnesses, photographs and a full inventory. I don’t care if it might bruise an ego in south Armagh we have a more important task to be getting on with building a normal and humane society.

  • circles

    “Better late than never has a hollow ring when it is 1800 people too late.”
    I fully agree – and lets hope that those responsible for the remaining 1800 murders follow this lead and are jolted into action.

  • slug

    1. I am very unhappy about the return of the on the runs without proper trial.

    2. I agree wtih J Donaldson’s idea of having a locally-recruiting and overseas-serving RIR based in NI instead of Oxfordshire.

    3. I think at least a year should follow the completion of decommissioning before the DUP takes any steps with regard to powersharing; at that time and in the event of a good outcome they might consider a consultation exercise with the broad unionist electorate.

  • Sean

    I think we should be more worried about the loyalist paramilitaries than this continual harping on about the ira.

  • SlugFest

    It’s time for the loyalists to step up to the plate. While i understand while some people feel the need to continually bash the IRA, let’s not forget that the majority of the other half of those killed during The Troubles were done so by the hands of loyalists.

    The DUP has no cause to argue one more year pass by before powersharing takes place … instead, they should make damn sure that the loyalists decommission.

    Enough pointing fingers … it’s time to get on with it.

  • levee

    Good news, and good comment from fair_deal! I’m no ‘RA fan, but it’s time the Loyalist paramilitaries stared scaling down and taking on board the idea of peace.

    I still think the decommissioning is more a gesture than anything. Remember, these people can stock up again without too much difficulty. The gesture shows that they are committing to peace for now at least.

  • The Watchman

    Have I missed something?

    Where has the IRA said explicitly that it will dispose of all its weaponry? Anyone with chapter and verse?

  • slug

    Loyalist decommissioning should be raised by nationalists at the negotiations. They have singularly failed to prioritise this issue.

  • Oilbbear Chromaill

    Loyalist decommissioning should be raised by nationalists at the negotiations. They have singularly failed to prioritise this issue.

    They have never harped on about decommissioning to the same extent of unionists, the Brits and the Staters, sure, but that’s because they see the unionist paramilitaries as part of a bigger war machine comprising the British, the police, the ‘intelligence’ services et al – all working hand in glove with one another. The d word was always about delay more than anything else and given that one doesn’t need semtex to burn out a car or throw a petrol or pipe bomb or one doesn’t need anything more deadly than a knife to murder a schoolboy, then decommissioning isn’t much good in that context, when unionist paramilitaries are stepping up their campaign against nationalists with, it seems, a benign and supine police force to ensure they never have to account for their evil doing.

  • slug

    Decommissioning of loyalist arms is, however, something in the Belfast Agreement so I think it is something well worth persuing. I have never believed that the decommissioning of arms is just a red herring. For a group to decommission their weapons is to say they are moving on to purely political means. If anything the tendency to ignore the issue of loyalist arms has left things unbalanced. It’s in the Agreement and its outstanding, and I would welcome greater focus on it.

  • The Watchman

    Olibbear Chromaill,

    Do you think the IRA has any “evil doing” to account for?

  • D’Oracle

    This decommissioning thing has to be stopped at all costs ; if it goes ahead think of the implications- the DUP will have no reason to exist, the Indo will have nothing to write about and thats just for openers.

    I wonder what could be done to stop it?

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    “I wonder what could be done to stop it?”

    Sectarian attacks on innocent catholics, DUP intransigence, bad policing, errr…

    Despite the above the PIRA seem to be committed to achieving their aims through political means. Surely that’s to be applauded !

  • DaithiO

    Apologies for the repetition,

    I didn’t realise my comments had been accepted !

    D

  • T.Ruth

    No one answered the Watchman. Here we are with a grovelling Blair showering concessions on the criminal classes without the prospect of anyone seeing an end to paramilitary activity. There is no sign of genuine decommissioning,no evidence of a break between Sinn Fein and IRA criminality, and no prospect ofthe dispersion /disbandment of the IRA.

    If the nationalist/republican community is genuinely interested in devolved government then it will be necessary to meet the reasonable requirements of the democratic Unionist community.
    These include visible ,verifiable decommissioning,disbandment of paramilitaruy groups,an end to Sinn Fein ‘s links with criminal activity,institutions of government that are subject to the will of the NI Assembly,Ministers directly responsible to the electorate via the Assembly on critical matters,and an end to regulated and organised interface tension. Full support for the PSNI as the legitimate police service for the community and full accepance that for the forseeable future NI will remain within the United Kingdom are prerequisites.
    It is time for those interested in the future of our community and especially our children to develop a society which is based on mutual respect,democratic dialogue,and respect for the Law. If we do not act soon the paramilitary groups will have an unbreakable grip on the weakest and poorest members of our province.

  • D’Oracle

    Daithi,
    Yep -a few useful ideas there, right enough. Wonder, though, if there a few loopers out there who get get em worked up and in play before its too late.

    Sure the Shinners are on the level but what about all the dark forces for whom this no bang -bang scenario is terminally inconvenient.

    BTW Seen a few double-ups here -even the odd trebler -but 9 times(or is it ten ?); thats very strange.

    Maybe you have a twitchy trigger-finger or something ?