Towards a new GAA

Ordinarily I try to avoid linking to the YU blog, but over the past couple of weeks, an interesting discussion has been taking place on this thread by former UYUC Chairman (and UUP DARD spokesman) Kenny Donaldson.

He states that he is not a “GAA basher”, but wishes to see the GAA move beyond its “outdated, discriminatory practices”.

128 thoughts on “Towards a new GAA”

  1. maca,

    How exactly are they not?

    One incident involved a few drunks in a pub participating in some sectarianism during a football game, and the other was, ermm, a few drunks…….

  2. Maca/Billy Pilgrim
    “You back that up by posting an article which doesn’t even mention the GAA …”

    From this evening’s Telegraph:

    “The charges follow a riot which broke out in Castlederg after marchers returning from a demonstration passed through the nationalist Ferguson Crescent – a route approved by the Parades Commission – where dozens of Tyrone supporters were celebrating their gaelic football team’s victory over Dublin”

    Obviously not the fault of the GAA itself, but proof surely in parts of N.Ireland,Gaelic fans can be every so much bigotted as any football fan?

    Maca,

    I can’t see much of a difference between drunken Loyalist yobs singing “The Billy Boys” in the Bot and drunken Republican yobs attacking 70 year Orangemen.

    Both are sectarian scum and the GAA (in Northern Ireland anyway) has as big a part to play in eliminating sectarianism from elements of its support base as the IFA does.

  3. Realist
    “How exactly are they not?”

    The difference is obvious as i’m sure you well know.
    One was a loyalist parade through a nationalist area which itself is a centensious issue and always likely to cause trouble.
    The other is football fans singing sectarian songs after a game. If GAA fans left Croker singing sectarian songs maybe then you’d have a comparison but here you don’t.

    Paul
    “From this evening’s Telegraph…”
    We know about that already. BFITH used an article to back up his point which didn’t even mention the GAA. That’s all I was pointing out.

    “I can’t see much of a difference between…”

    That’s not the comparison.

  4. Maca, as a Republican and fellow Irishman – PLEASE – stop posting – you’re an embarrasment. If you insist on persisting then at least learn to spell ‘contentious’.

  5. maca,

    The comparison is as basic as it is stark…there are sectarian bigots within the ranks of both GAA supporters and NI football fans.

    This “we don’t have a problem with sectarianism” head in the sand stuff is most regrettable.

  6. Bored
    “Maca, as a Republican and fellow Irishman – PLEASE – stop posting – you’re an embarrasment. “

    If Mick has a problem with me posting he can ban me. You on the other hand can kiss my winky. :-p

    Realist
    “The comparison is as basic as it is stark…there are sectarian bigots within the ranks of both GAA supporters and NI football fans.”

    Your comparison is false.
    Yes there are bigots among both organisations supporters, there’s no doubt about that and that’s not what we were discussing.

    “This “we don’t have a problem with sectarianism” head in the sand stuff is most regrettable.””

    Please now Stewart, cop on to yourself.

  7. maca,

    I’m not playing games, I’m merely stating facts.

    Fact is this…some so-called Tyrone GAA supporters decided after a few bevvies on Saturday to physically attack a RBP parade in Castlederg.

    That is an act of blatant sectarianism.

    I would concur with the viewpoint that the RBP should have been allowed nowhere near a staunchly nationalist/republican area of Castlederg by the PC, but that does not detract from the fact that sectarian bigots decided to have some “sport” by beating seven shades of shit out of old men.

    I would also concur with the viewpoint that the incident had nothing to do with the GAA hierarchy…similarly, the IFA cannot be held responsible for the actions of a couple of bigots who go into a pub to watch a football match.

  8. Paul – my father is English, my mother is Irish. Calling myself English during the course of the thread you’ve so impressively recalled was probably (on mature reflection) stretching things a bit to make a point.

    I am Irish and consider myself so, that said, am I a “historically magnificent, pure-blooded Gaelic beacon of light”? Given my parental provenance, plainly not.

    I just felt at the time that you were making assumptions about my ‘Irishness’ which were untrue.

    The ironly of all of this is that my 04:41 PM to Maca was actually meant as a joke. He had commented on my need to deploy a spell-checker on a previous post (See – “What’s to love?”) and I was just returning the favour in what (I thought) was a suitably transparently piss-taking tone.

    Apologies all round folks.

  9. “In what regard lala?”

    It just bores me. I sometimes watch match of the day, but a full game almost makes me fall asleep. Damn it bores me, I can’t see the excitement. Whereas I almost have a fit watching my county play gaelic. So exciting. I also have fundamental problems with soccer players. The money they get paid is ridiculous, and I find it hard to support any team.

  10. maca,

    How exactly are they not?

    One incident involved a few drunks in a pub participating in some sectarianism during a football game, and the other was, ermm, a few drunks…….

  11. maca,

    How exactly are they not?

    One incident involved a few drunks in a pub participating in some sectarianism during a football game, and the other was, ermm, a few drunks…….

  12. Maca/Billy Pilgrim
    “You back that up by posting an article which doesn’t even mention the GAA …”

    From this evening’s Telegraph:

    “The charges follow a riot which broke out in Castlederg after marchers returning from a demonstration passed through the nationalist Ferguson Crescent – a route approved by the Parades Commission – where dozens of Tyrone supporters were celebrating their gaelic football team’s victory over Dublin”

    Obviously not the fault of the GAA itself, but proof surely in parts of N.Ireland,Gaelic fans can be every so much bigotted as any football fan?

    Maca,

    I can’t see much of a difference between drunken Loyalist yobs singing “The Billy Boys” in the Bot and drunken Republican yobs attacking 70 year Orangemen.

    Both are sectarian scum and the GAA (in Northern Ireland anyway) has as big a part to play in eliminating sectarianism from elements of its support base as the IFA does.

  13. Maca/Billy Pilgrim
    “You back that up by posting an article which doesn’t even mention the GAA …”

    From this evening’s Telegraph:

    “The charges follow a riot which broke out in Castlederg after marchers returning from a demonstration passed through the nationalist Ferguson Crescent – a route approved by the Parades Commission – where dozens of Tyrone supporters were celebrating their gaelic football team’s victory over Dublin”

    Obviously not the fault of the GAA itself, but proof surely in parts of N.Ireland,Gaelic fans can be every so much bigotted as any football fan?

    Maca,

    I can’t see much of a difference between drunken Loyalist yobs singing “The Billy Boys” in the Bot and drunken Republican yobs attacking 70 year Orangemen.

    Both are sectarian scum and the GAA (in Northern Ireland anyway) has as big a part to play in eliminating sectarianism from elements of its support base as the IFA does.

  14. Maca, as a Republican and fellow Irishman – PLEASE – stop posting – you’re an embarrasment. If you insist on persisting then at least learn to spell ‘contentious’.

  15. Maca and Co

    I wouldn’t expect the BBC to make any references to GAA fans being involved. However, the coverage of the incident in the Sunday Life and UTV makes reference to it.

  16. Maca and Co

    I wouldn’t expect the BBC to make any references to GAA fans being involved. However, the coverage of the incident in the Sunday Life and UTV makes reference to it.

  17. Maca and Co

    I wouldn’t expect the BBC to make any references to GAA fans being involved. However, the coverage of the incident in the Sunday Life and UTV makes reference to it.

  18. Bored
    “and I was just returning the favour in what (I thought) was a suitably transparently piss-taking tone.”

    Note the smiley at the end of my response, it was ‘transparent’ enough 🙂

  19. lala,

    I guess it’s whatever rocks your boat.

    There are some very poor soccer games (you should see the Irish League), but every now and again there’s a game which is sensational…last seasons Champions League Final being a case in point.

    I’m sure the same applies equally to Gaelic football….I believe many of the pundits slated some of the earlier games in this years Championship for example, but there have been some crackers of late.

  20. Bored. You’re an Irish Republican? Seriously? I’ve read many of your insultingly disparaging threads on the working class people of Belfast, not to mention your bull….on this thread.

    You’re an embarrassment. I actually wince when I read your posts. I wince an Irish Republican wince.

    I don’t always agree with what Maca has to say about numerous topics, but he is always succinct, balanced, non-sectarian and not a complete w”£ker, which is a serious change from reading anything that comes from you.

    I’ve appealed to have you banned before, I appeal again. You offer this site nothing.

    English or Irish, it’s obvious that you aren’t very bright. You are a snob and a bigot.

  21. “not a complete w”£ker”

    *sniff* that’s about the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me … today at least *sniff*

  22. “Bored. You’re an Irish Republican? Seriously? I’ve read many of your insultingly disparaging threads on the working class people of Belfast, not to mention your bull….on this thread.”

    Firstly Baluba I haven’t at any stage of any thread ever criticised the ‘working class people of Belfast’. Kindly provide examples if you disagree. I HAVE criticised the refuse to work class people of Belfast on a regular basis and make no apologies for it.

    Secondly, even if I had criticised the working class people of Belfast how the fuck is that incompatible with being a Republican (and bear in mind before you lurch for your keyboard that I’m a Republican in the French rather than the Ardoyne sense of the word) ?

    Thirdly, as regards your petulant and puerile appeals for my banning from this site – they appear to have gone unheeded – does that tell you anything?

    Feel free to call for my expulsion from the site as often as you see fit.

    P.S. you’re prissy primary school style of self-censorship e.g. ‘w”£ker’, ‘bull….’ etc. say it all.

  23. “not a complete w”£ker”

    *sniff* that’s about the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me … today at least *sniff*

  24. in response to aye(8th of august).i am a memeber of cathal brugha waterpolo club and if u’ve not realised it by now waterpolo clubs are not part of the GAA and have no republican/terrorist affialiations apart from the name

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