Big Billy versus Big Mickey [#AE17] election rendered in one picture…

Leaving it to the eloquent Martyn Turner...

  • articles

    One size fits all.
    That sadly is how we are viewed.

  • mickfealty

    Sadly it’s also an accurate depiction of how we are really behaving.

  • Jag

    The cartoon fails to recognise that even within tribes, there are choices. If you’re fed up to the teeth with the rank incompetence, quite probably worse, and the brazen refusal to take responsibility when enjoying the trappings of power, then you have the UUP, TUV, Independent unionists, and even Alliance, People Before Profit.

    The message to political parties is, “fine, you can play the Orange/Green card, but you have natural competitors and if you screw up on a sufficiently outrageous scale, we have choices”

  • ted hagan

    Foster should be speaking out, she should be demonstrating an urgency to save powersharing government, not making feeble gestures. One big speech could do it and perhaps restore and least some of her credibility. Does she have it in her?
    She’s been getting mediocre advice so far.

  • Nevin

    There was always something bogus about power-sharing. There was a sharing of baubles but decisions often came down to a tribal/sectarian count or who was or wasn’t acting for a powerful vested interest. Indeed, there were times when bumbling bureaucrats rolled over at the slightest whiff of pressure.

    Where’s the tug-of-war rope? Where are the chattering-class slippers – and half-pints?

  • articles

    Increasingly they choose not to exercise their vote from which we can infer they feel their vote doesn’t count ie they feel they don’t have a choice.

  • MainlandUlsterman

    are you suggesting power-sharing is over?

  • AntrimGael

    Turner is nowhere near as good as Ian Knox who is the REAL deal.

  • Nevin

    MU, I’m suggesting it has never taken place. During the course of the past ten years or so it’s been a horse-trading carve-up, not working together for the greater good.

  • Sliothar

    I would be inclined to agree with you there, AG. Turner, imho, is a good draftsman/caricaturist but not an incisive political cartoonist/commentator. He reminds me of the late Rowel Friers who, while you admired his skill with the pen, couldn’t wield a scalpel. Likewise, Turner, it seems to me in around 80% of his work, merely states the obvious.

  • Roger

    Turnout is surprisingly high in my view given the peculiar system in UKNI.

  • Cináed mac Artri

    ‘These boots ain’t made for talkin’.

  • MainlandUlsterman

    well, that’s largely true; though power-sharing was always going to involve a little carving up too, the two aren’t mutually exclusive.

  • mickfealty

    I wouldn’t like to have to choose between the two of them.

  • mickfealty

    This one is nearly pitch perfect, right into the detail of the very words on the shoes. I don’t think he can be expected to hit them out of the park this one every day…

  • Jag

    Whatever about the division on tribal lines, the election is on…

    “Time for the people to have their say – O’Neill”
    http://www.sinnfein.ie/contents/43021

    SF crossed the Rubicon on Monday afternoon.

  • nagantino

    I like the cartoon well enough, he hits some vitals. The Belfast Telegraph is for children, lacking the taste for the jugular. Did anyone see Knoxs cartoon yesterday? He’s no respect that man. Brilliant though.

  • Jag

    Off-topic, the Irish Times is reporting MMG has this nasty condition, Familial Amyloid Cardiomyopathy

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3501197/

    There are treatments but the clinical course and prognosis are not good.

    MMG isn’t commenting on the IT report, and, understandably, there is hostility towards any invasive reporting. MMG isn’t any ordinary Joe though, and perhaps a clarifying statement would be constructive for all.

  • AntrimGael

    Indeed but you find that 99 times out of 100 Ian Knox captures perfectly whatever is the subject at that time. Turner is a very good cartoonist but he often lacks the commentary and dialogue to go along with that. Knox doesnt, his wit and words are as good as his drawings.

  • Sliothar

    That’s fine, Mick, as far as it goes. He got one.
    Nonetheless, I feel that mostly he just puts graphics on the headlines of the day. I’ve lost count on the number of his cartoons that have left me saying to myself, ‘Where’s the beef’?
    I wouldn’t expect that he get it right every time. That’s why I gave him a (very) generous 20%!
    My choice for the Dailies, 1.Steve Bell & his colleagues, Grauniad, 2. Dave Browne, London Indo, and 3. Matt, DT, for his wry, dry humour, are top of my list. That, however, might reflect my own political bias!
    But I do think that Ian Knox is by far the best political cartoonist in Ireland. Fearless and wielding a sulphurous pen, he burns everyone.

  • mickfealty

    Top two both. You’re not drawing me any further. Just to say though I’ve rarely seen anyone grab the breadth of a story quite as well as this one.

  • SDLP supporter

    Interested as to why you exclude SDLP.

  • Ben De Hellenbacque

    And a stinking heap of used odour eaters that pose a risk to health and happiness.

  • Jag

    Hi SDLP supporter (you’re the one are you!)
    This election is really about the displacement of the DUP vote after the RHI scandal, and I can’t really see many of those votes going to the SDLP or SF. If SF was in the doghouse, then you’d expect most of its displaced vote to go to the SDLP even Alliance, People Before Profit.