#FreshStart: “You can’t always get what you want…”

Courtesy of Nolan… If you keep sticking your head in a vice, then it’s going to come out in an odd shape. It’s good the deal is done, and we can move on to the next false, short termist, er, crisis.

Once more with feeling…

And I went down to the demonstration
To get my fair share of abuse
Singing, “We’re gonna vent our frustration
And if we don’t, we are going to blow a 50-amp fuse”, yeah

And no, you can’t always get what you want
No, you can’t always get what you want
Well, no, you can’t always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you just might find
You get what you need, baby

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  • chrisjones2

    “Listen to me, honey dear
    Something’s wrong with you I fear
    It’s getting harder to please you
    Harder and harder each year

    I don’t want to make you blue
    But you need a talking to
    Like a lot of people I know
    Here’s what’s wrong with you

    After you get what you want, you don’t want it
    If I gave you the moon, you’d grow tired of it soon

    You’re like a baby
    You want what you want when you want it
    But after you are presented
    With what you want, you’re discontented

    You’re always wishing and wanting for something
    When you get what you want
    You don’t want what you get”

    Irving Berlin

    I don’t want to be negative – I really don’t – bit only time will tell if Baby has changed

  • Sergiogiorgio

    Nailed it in the second sentence of the piece. Only positive I take is that it gave Robbo the most pyrrhic of Pyrrhic victories as an excuse to step aside. A meaningless deal negotiated by a meaningless individual. Good luck and feck off.

  • Nevin

    “It’s good the deal is done”

    The victims and survivors will probably feel they’ve been shafted and only London and Dublin can feel a measure of satisfaction from the outcome.

    “The Victims Forum has demanded an unreserved apology and explanation for the suspension of legacy issues from the latest Stormont agreement.” .. source

  • mickfealty

    I’ve yet to come to that subject Nevin. But you are right it is a very important omission. Of which, more later.

  • mickfealty


    Follow the link? It’s a victory, but only for political gravity. It’s unremarkable nature is its most distinctive feature.

  • Sergiogiorgio

    Mick, we’ll be back here in crisis mode in 6 months time, and another 6 months after that. These people are incapable of governance. They have neither the intelligence nor the will to govern on behalf of ALL the people of NI. Their political suspension illustrated that we didn’t even realise a difference from them being in office or not. As I stated the only silver lining was the exit of that snake Robinson.

  • Gingray

    It’s not really a victory when you look at the main reasons a deal was needed in the first place – ira murder and welfare reform.

    On the first, it’s couched in vague enough language that the ira will be hanging around, planting the seed of a future crisis.

    On Welfare Reform, it’s been passed to England, so Robinson is responsible foroverseeing de-devolution. I don’t think history will remember him well.

  • Pasty2012

    Yes Mick it’s a really good deal, Welfare Cuts that will cause people to turn off heating and put less on the table and will then cause mental strain for parents and illness among many which in turn will see more people at hospitals and a likely increase in crime etc. The tory Cuts will cause more damage and likely see NHS Charges introduced – the spiral downwards has been fought for by the Unionist DUP/UUP Politicians, but will the people who these cuts affect on the Shankill Road and East Belfast realize the people voted in (and their families) to take away their benefits will not be affected as they are getting big pay rises.
    Yes Mick, good deal if you are a Unionist politician but not so good if you work for a living.

  • Nevin

    Is it significant that the Commissioner has settled for a meeting with the Secretary of State whereas the Victims Forum is demanding a meeting with the two premiers?

  • mickfealty

    Go on..?

  • Nevin

    I’ve just had a look at the recent edition of The View and noted another significant omission, the absence of an invitation to the talks co-chair, Charlie Flanagan. Legacy issues involve acts of commission and omission by both governments.

    Mark Carruthers used the term ‘state-agents’ whereas I think the term ‘double-agent’ would be a more appropriate term for those who played a role for either government within loyalist and republican paramilitary structures.

    The language of the commissioner is a diluted version of the language of the Victims Forum; there’s also no mention of a meeting with the co-chair.