Chief Constable: It is not the job of police to monitor the activity of paramilitary groups

Okay, just a quick note on one of the few significant details to emerge from the Policing Board’s interrogation of senior officers of the PSNI today. In response to the proffered idea that that the PSNI should monitor it fell to the Chief Constable to point out to our senior lawmakers that….

…it was not the job of police to monitor the activity of paramilitary groups. He said he would not support any move to change the law to make the PSNI responsible for monitoring the status of such groups.

It’s a point also highlighted by the BBC’s Vincent Kearney on Twitter:

He also pointed out that…

Any such threats would be dealt with by MI5 (where those with anti terrorist experience now operate) or in case of organised crime the National Crime Agency.

  • gendjinn

    “…the IRA had gone away and its active service units no longer exist.”
    “…there is no terrorist command and the IRA was not involve in terrorism.”
    “It is involved in pursuing an exclusively peaceful, political agenda,”

    As I said previously, the PSNI has no credibility and yet even they don’t claim the PIRA is still at war.

    Nesbitt has been hung out to dry 🙂

  • Mister_Joe

    So Special Branch went away too. Are they still active somewhere?

  • Zig70

    I’m confused. Are the police not monitoring the dissies? Do they monitor criminal gangs and just don’t monitor criminal gangs with flags? Who drew that wavy line? How can they reportedly know what is going on if they aren’t monitoring what is going on? I’ve got my political monitoring mixed up with my investigative monitoring, haven’t I. Maybe they should have said ‘We can’t be arsed writing reports, we’d rather just spout it into a mike’. God forbid someone asked for evidence again.

  • Mister_Joe

    It gets murkier and murkier. A senior Police officer says that members of the not gone away IRA carried out this murder or were involved somehow, The CC says that the IRA are committed to purely political activity. Those two statements are contradictory. Which is right? Evidence please, as you say.

  • chrisjones2

    “It” may be committed but some of its current members don’t seem to be. And some of those now seem to have been playing senior roles in SF.

    Now there is a surprise

  • Reader

    The statements aren’t contradictory. Suppose the murderers were also members of the Felons’ Club or the Rangers Supporters Club, would you automatically blame those organisations for the actions of a few of their members?
    Now – if the organisations had given orders, supplied weapons or arranged a cover up, that would be different!

  • Barneyt

    ok, a little obvious point but if the police are saying it is not their job to monitor paramilitary groups, then why entrench themselves by making statements about the continued existence of such groups, active or otherwise. It seem contradictory and they appear to be confused or have taken advice.

    Sounds like the PSNI may have been hung out to dry too as they do not seem to be aware of their remit, unless they are happy to serve as a front for those that DO monitor paramilitaries?

  • Catcher in the Rye

    As reader says, they aren’t contradictory. The idea is to distinguish whether something was an action of the IRA acting corporately, or individuals who were members of the organisation acting alone.

    Of course, it’s an approach fraught with problems, as the IRA can basically do anything they like and then deny they ordered it.

  • Kevin Breslin

    When did the PSNI, NCA or indeed the Garda Siochana say any senior Sinn Féin members are active members of the PIRA?

  • Sergiogiorgio

    So the IRA is a corporation now Catcher?
    I wonder what their mission statement would be, shareholders etc?

  • Catcher in the Rye

    catch yerself on.

  • Zeno

    Has anyone thought of having the Chief Constable looked at by a Doctor? He is becoming increasingly erratic.

  • chrisjones2

    Well have a look at who seems to spend an awful lot of time standing around beside senior SF members.

    And then ask who was involved in the Arms smuggling and the bank robbery and the rape investigations and the investigation to the McGuigan murder. Then compare the two lists. Whoops

    And if they are just junior SF members why do they seem so prominent and near the leadership?

  • chrisjones2

    So they have no credibility except when they agree with you when suddenly they are fountains of truth

  • ranger1640

    Interestingly the PSNI nodding dogs at the policing board did not tell us who the leadership are, of this illegal peace promoting terrorist organization.

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  • Alan Morgan

    Of course not, its’ the job of Police to sit in nice comfortable offices drinking tea, eating donuts and monitoring Facebook and Twitter to identify and arrest anyone guilty of thoughtcrime. And to arrest little old ladies who can’t afford to pay their TV licence. Good grief, what else did you think the Police were for?

  • chrisjones2

    …and pursue police officers who say “Shit” in private

  • gendjinn

    Thanks for the laughter.

  • chrisjones2

    ….but still perhaps the sanest and most balanced voice

  • chrisjones2

    Mind you if some senior members of Rangers Supporters Club were covering up the rape of the junior team members, or incest within the club or investigating murders or assisting in / supporting the murder of coaches of rival clubs or people who support other teams, you might expect the club members to have some sort of rules around that and might reasonably think that the Club Chair would not want to be regularly seen surrounded by them

  • chrisjones2

    Fie….there you go again ….pointing out that PIRA is a proscribed and illegal organisation that the Police are supposed to suppress and are required to investigate an arrest its peace loving, totally non-criminal members

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