Profiling “cheeky sod” Nigel Dodds: Radio 4’s take on “possibly Britain’s least well-known Westminster leader”

Nigel Dodds Radio 4 ProfileListening back to Radio 4’s recent Profile of Nigel Dodds is an opportunity both to find out more about the DUP’s deputy leader, and to discover what mainland Britain makes of Northern Ireland politics and politicians.

It is clear that the BBC struggled to find material, and lengthy contributions from Diane Dodds and the News Letter’s Sam McBride filled in much of the background detail of the (mostly) loyal North Belfast unionist politician.

And of course it was an excuse to air “We’re only making plans for Nigel” again!

But it’s worth a listen.

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  • Ernekid

    In the varied history of Irish Parliamentarians in Westminster I wouldn’t rank Nigel Dodds very highly.

    For me the nightmare scenario is the Tories hanging into power by being propped up by the DUP and UKIP.

  • Nevin

    I do know of Nigel Dodds but not of Leanne Wood 🙂

  • Reader

    Are you going to vote tactically against the nightmare?

  • Ernekid

    I’m going to vote for the Party with the policies I agree with best, currently looks like the Green Party of NI. I don’t like tactical voting its why FPTP is totally undemocratic

  • Sergiogiorgio

    Creationists, born again fruitcakes, racists, flag waving hate mongers….and you seriously wonder why the UK doesn’t know the DUP. The Tories want these edjeets well out of the way just in case they need to rely on their votes. Bring these abominations in front of the UK media and ask for their opinions on religious freedom, sexual identity, abortion etc. and let the UK decide.

  • Pasty2012

    The crazy thing is that the working class Protestants currently on Welfare Benefits are going to be voting to send the DUP MP’s to Westminster to back up the Tory’s and Cut their benefits, Turkeys and Christmas.

  • Sergiogiorgio

    Never underestimate the stupidity of the voting public.

  • chrisjones2

    yes ,….in West Belfast they voted SF for years and look at the state of the place

  • chrisjones2

    Why do you assume that money is the only thing that motivates people. Are you so easily bought yourself? Have you no underpinning principles but personal financial self interest?

  • Sergiogiorgio

    I agree Chris – just because I detest the DUP don’t assume I somehow support SF. That’s just a lazy assumption.

  • Reader

    I agree that FPTP is a desperately bad system, and I much prefer STV with multiple seats per constituency. However, I do think that tactical voting is a logical response to FPTP.

  • John Collins

    I don’t know what part of this island you live in but here in the South I feel we are heading for disaster on account of PRSTV with multiple seats per constituency. Some of the greatest gombeen men have reached the interior of Leinster House because of this system. We would get some of this variety of deputy anyway with your system but we are facing having as many as 40 Independent members in the next Dail. This may appear good for democracy but for much needed stable government it would be a disaster.

  • NMS

    Alan, Just on a minor technical point, “mainland Britain” There is GB & NI = UK. I suppose you could talk about “mainland Britain”, if you were on say the Isle of Wight. But sitting in Northern Ireland, I don’t think you are correct.

  • NMS

    I much preferred the piece on D & G. Of course they are correct about their description of “synthetic” babies. How easy it is to get up the nose of a strange fat old man called Reg.

  • Pasty2012

    I don’t assume money is the Only Thing. But I believe you will find that most in GB who vote and are on state benefits are unlikely to be voting for people who are hell bent on slashing their benefit payments. Or maybe all the Ad Guys, the Labour Party and the SNP have it all wrong when they suggest that Working Class people and those on benefits are not natural bedfellows of the Tory Rich. Maybe all the people who vote for Labour and the SNP would say the Middle and Upper Class voters of the Tory Party and those who fit naturally with them (DUP/UUP) have their own personal financial self interests as paramount as they strive to cut the taxes paid by the wealthy whilst increasing tax like VAT that targets those on low wages and benefits.

  • Pasty2012

    Yes, look at North Belfast where Dodds has been MP for Years and just look at the place and they will be electing him MP again so he can help the Tory’s make deeper Budget cuts over the next 3 years so they can reduce the taxes for the wealthly. The Dodds family and a number of other DUP families have their noses deep into the taxpayers trough when it comes to MP/MEP salaries and expenses. How many “outsiders” get jobs working for the DUP/UUP ? They have tried to get round that by employing each others families so it doesn’t look so bad as having your spouse, sons and daughters working as aides and advisers.

  • Jay

    Look at NI. Unionists had it for 80 odd years and look at the state of the place.

  • Practically_Family

    I often think this when I hear people say that folk won’t vote for Irish unification becuase “the south can’t afford us”.

  • Reader

    “mainland Britain” is “mainland Britain” whether you you are in Belfast, Anglesey or standing on Mars.
    Perhaps you once saw an objection to the term “The Mainland” and assumed the same argument also applies to “mainland Britain” ?

  • PaulT

    mainland Britain is France, hence why Normandy French is used when Parliament is opened.

    Alternatively if you want to keep it within a UK context The Channel Isles would be mainland Britain, which is why the Queen is only a Duchess there

  • PaulT

    Yeah but strip out the ones who are actually FFers or Blueshirts hiding behind the label of an Indie and the micro parties lumped in under the title and there are probably only a dozen indies

  • PaulT

    mmmmh skirted nicely around the religious bit with minimum facts or context, forgot to mention that the ‘Kingmakers’ party has entered a pact with the UUP (Who are still publicly calling them bigots) and that the pact was mostly to protect Doddsys seat which he may well still lose.

    Also forgot about the DUPs 3 demands (freshly copied from UKIP) for coalition

    I know it was a light touch profile for a broad appeal but still feel the omission of stuff was intentional.

    Worth listening to however just for the grovelling comments about Papa Doc, something is simmering there, maybe a ‘reverse ferret’

  • Kevin Breslin

    Never underestimate the intelligence of the voting public either.

  • Reader

    Do you have a link to a map that shows Britain as you understand it?

  • barnshee

    Er Mainland Britain would appear to be the bit without any islands where that leaves Islay Mull the Outer Hebrides etc I`m not too sure

  • PaulT

    Oh, well if you’re keeping it simple and using geography, I’ll get me world map, now, I’ve spotted a wee island off the coast of Mainland Europe, is that what you’re chatting about, it’s beside a slightly smaller island called Ireland

    Would I be right in saying that nowhere in Britain (The Mainland) is further than 70 miles from the sea. Have you ever been abroad?

  • PaulT

    ‘bit’ is a well bit vague in geography terms can you clarify if you are referring to that wee island between Ireland and Mainland Europe.

    If so than doesn’t that make the island of Ireland Mainland Ireland as there’s also a load of wee islands of the coast.

    So we’re in Mainland Ireland and over there is Mainland Great Britain and we’re both off the coast of Mainland Europe.

    It’s a bit of hassle, surely we should drop the mainland bit for these couple of tiny islands

  • PaulT

    Oh I just looked I think there’s a Hebridean Mainland too, oh, and an Arran Isles Mainland

  • Sergiogiorgio

    Demonstrate

  • submariner

    That is because sectarianism is endemic in working class Protestant areas,it trumps everything else. They will vote in their droves for sectarian knuckle draggers who will be quite happy to side with the Tory’s just as long as one of themuns dont get in.

  • Catcher in the Rye

    it depends on where you live.

    In East and North Belfast, and places such as FST or Newry and Armagh, only one out of two candidates can win. Your choice, irrespective of whether you decide to abstain or vote for any of the candidates, will ultimately benefit either one or the other of those two leading candidates.

    In South, it’s a bit more complicated.

  • Catcher in the Rye

    Some of the greatest gombeen men have reached the interior of Leinster House because of this system

    No, they reached Leinster House because people voted for them.

  • I’m glad everyone understood what i meant by “mainland Britain” … The term is in Collins Dictionary too … though that won’t stop this thread growing even longer!!

  • Zeno

    Didn’t he have a Wife one time? I haven’t heard any mention of her for years.

  • Zeno

    I really don’t think that when they came up with the concept of democracy 2000 odd years ago that they envisaged your choice would be Nigel Dodds or Gerry Kelly.

  • John Collins

    They were usually elected for the last seat in a four or five constituency. Most of them when never get elected in a first past the post system. How can you justify somebody being elected to a national parliament because of television masts as happened in Donegal? And then these people can hold the country to ransom if they they hold the balance of power. And remember the Liberal Democrats tried to get the PR system but with single seats in GB and it failed, although that would be better than the multiple seat system

  • Thomas Girvan

    Well, at least he is not an ex jail bird.

  • Thomas Girvan

    Sure as Ireland is part of the British Isles, therefore, as we are all British, what’s to fall out about?

  • Reader

    But I’m pretty sure that the wee island off the coast of Europe that you have just noticed is not called either France nor the Channel Islands. I’m trying to work out what you were on about with those claims.
    And now I’m wondering why you think the Channel Islands are large enough to be called a mainland, but you seem to be suggesting that the island of Great Britain is not? Your logic seems to be flexible, and that’s putting it kindly.

  • Kevin Breslin

    Easy, if 40-50% of the Working population vote that will include large groups of people from university lecturers, doctors, surgeons, engineers, scientists, business entrepeneurs, diplomats, computer programmers, linguists, economists, manufacturers, farmers etc. … People with skills we do not have, solving problems we moan and lament about … All human life, life smarter than you may be and than I may be, who believe they can support one person from a Common background to use collective money in our collective interests. They have the wits to make their vote and candidate matter.

    What is not voting doing? Do you believe you can magically conjure a different society, different laws and collective change from a couch?

  • Sergiogiorgio

    Nope, but neither do I believe that voting for the current candidates will make any difference either, ergo, those who vote maintain the status quo, and the status quo is crap.

  • Kevin Breslin

    ALL of the Current Candidates??? Even the ones in small parties and those independents who felt the same way as you do, trumped up a bit of money and stood before the public asking them to support him or her as they campaigned for a seat?

  • Sergiogiorgio

    I applaud them Kevin. I just don’t think they make a button of difference. Revolution is the key. Bring down Stormont with all the gombeens inside.

  • Kevin Breslin

    Actually they do, even if they don’t get elected they gain a mandate from people who will follow them. That’s more than declaring yourself a king from an armchair, knowing what’s best for everybody else.