A great example of cross border cooperation. More needed

This is a key example of the sort of all-island planning that should be speeded up in all sectors.  Good to see that flag waving doesn’t come into it. But the “black hole” must be filled.

.. fears have been voiced that more families will face a uncertainty over where operations will take place in England until Dublin has the capacity to cope..

“Surgery stops in Belfast in eight weeks – there is a potential black hole for months with children being sent all over the UK because Belfast will not have the provision to take them or Dublin.”

Mr Varadkar said: “The immediate impact of the removal of surgery from Belfast is that more children from Northern Ireland are likely to receive elective surgery at a specialist centre in Great Britain, as required, until appropriate capacity is in place in Crumlin.”

A cardiac centre of excellence will also be set up in Belfast to provide diagnostics and aftercare children with congenital heart defects.

Dr Mayer said that it was now impossible for such highly-skilled clinicians to stay in just one location.

He said their counterparts in Ireland must be prepared to travel between the Royal Victoria Hospital in Belfast and Our Lady’s Children’s Hospital in Dublin.

Dr Mayer, who spent a week in Ireland earlier this year, said that compared to distances travelled by families and medical staff in America, travel in Ireland should not be a hurdle.

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  • Dan

    I’m afraid I have little confidence in the Health Minister. Given he struggled to even read the big words in the statement, it’s hard to imagine that he grasped the detail within

  • carl marks

    It appears his advisers did and he had the sense to listen to the experts.
    this is good news for the children and their familys.

  • Barneyt

    Are there precedents for this? Effectively we have one country availing of (no doubt purchasing) services within another as they are not provided via the world famous NHS system that “should” ensure adequate health provision. Is the importance of the NHS and its successes just pulled out of the bag as a scare tactic when we talk of border polls or All-Ireland initiatives? For me, this is a blatant NHS failing for NI and those that try to run it.

    I don’t intend to provoke, but how is this acceptable if you aspire to maintain partition? Look at the problems the fleg produced. Would this not represent the thin edge of the wedge if one main aim is for Northern Ireland to exist and operate as an independent country, serving the needs of its own people within the wider UK union?

  • Barneyt

    Are there precedents for this? Effectively we have one country availing of (no doubt purchasing) services within another as they are not provided via the world famous NHS system that “should” ensure adequate health provision. Is the importance of the NHS and its successes just pulled out of the bag as a scare tactic when we talk of border polls or All-Ireland initiatives? For me, this is a blatant NHS failing for NI and those that try to run it.

    I don’t intend to provoke, but how is this acceptable if you aspire to maintain partition? Look at the problems the fleg produced. Would this not represent the thin edge of the wedge if one main aim is for Northern Ireland to exist and operate as an independent country, serving the needs of its own people within the wider UK union?

  • Bryan Magee

    I think its sensible too – we are a small island. This is a classic case where North-South cooperation makes sense and benefits can be achieved by working together.

    I hope that Belfast can become a center of excellence for other things we cooperate on.

    The Health Minister deserves to be applauded.

  • Bryan Magee

    I think its sensible too – we are a small island. This is a classic case where North-South cooperation makes sense and benefits can be achieved by working together.

    I hope that Belfast can become a center of excellence for other things we cooperate on.

    The Health Minister deserves to be applauded.

  • chrisjones2

    The God Fearin peeple of Ulster is being led astray so they is. Whit guarantees is there that the high standards of the Norn Iron NHS will apply?

    Can Patients opt tae only be traited with pur Pratestant Blood and none o’ that oul Irish stuff?

    And whit about that haemosexual blood that we have banned up here bit may be used down there? If its not gud enugh up here why should it be accepted down there. Whit if in future years these patients are shown to have been infested wit haemosexuality durin their life savin surgery

    Whit is the Department’s palicy pasition on this? Surely it cannit be inconsistient

  • chrisjones2

    The God Fearin peeple of Ulster is being led astray so they is. Whit guarantees is there that the high standards of the Norn Iron NHS will apply?

    Can Patients opt tae only be traited with pur Pratestant Blood and none o’ that oul Irish stuff?

    And whit about that haemosexual blood that we have banned up here bit may be used down there? If its not gud enugh up here why should it be accepted down there. Whit if in future years these patients are shown to have been infested wit haemosexuality durin their life savin surgery

    Whit is the Department’s palicy pasition on this? Surely it cannit be inconsistient

  • nilehenri

    it comes down to two things, costs and improved patient care and safety. there isn’t a big enough ‘market’ in belfast to justify a large and incredibly expensive unit, so a more cost-effective better trained service makes more sense for the whole island.
    the idea of the nhs being world famous is little more than a myth that politicians wheel out every time an election looms, it is not free, neither is it particularly efficient.

  • Croiteir

    You are correct – partition has failed and will always fail as the six counties are not capable of functioning as a country. This is the thin end of the wedge.

  • Bryan Magee

    The service in Dublin will be provided via the NHS though this initiative. It is not a failing of the NHS that some services are specialised and that trade is beneficial. This initiative is what you would expect neighboring countries to do anywhere in the world – if they are sensible. In economic theory its called “trade” more generally: each country does not need to produce all of everything. People specialize, and exchange.

  • Tochais Siorai

    There’s all sorts of low level co-operation that we never hear about – maybe only perhaps when they directly concern us e.g. I was told in the RVH that brain injury patients from the border counties of the Republic routinely come to them simply because its nearer than Beaumont in Dublin.

  • barnshee

    “partition has failed”

    90 years and counting and no sign of ending— a nirvana next door a bus ride away (free for OAPs) and nobody left

    “partition has failed” ahahahahah

    Ps With formal links a golden opportunity now occurs for the recovery of costs from those citizens of the ROI who turn up at (amongst others) Altnagelvin and Daisy Hill for treatment

  • $33309652

    “…ride away (free for OAPs) and nobody left..”
    ==========================================
    No true..1,000 people from the wee 6 are leaving EVERY Week.

    Or to put your example the other way round..How many people in the 26 have moved sticks to the wee 6 “paradise”.?
    *chortle*
    Another question Barnshee..Do you post on French. German websites trying to tell them how “superior” the Uk(raine) is?
    No,
    It couldn’t be coz you know it won’t wash.Could it?
    Oh. How the mighty have fallen, You used to run One Third of the Globe and now you can only turn to Ireland to make condescending comments.
    Poor show Auld Boy,
    Seems you have misplaced your empire auld bean.
    tut tut.
    Careless that.

  • barnshee

    “1,000 people from the wee 6 are leaving EVERY Week.”

    Where are they going ? ( hint not the ROI)

    Which component of NI society is most reflected in the “exodus”

    “Do you post on French. German websites trying to tell them how “superior” the Uk(raine) is?”

    And why would I do that? Nowhere do I claim “superior” status just an explanation— an apparent nirvana next door a bus ride away (free for OAPs) and nobody took advantage of the wonderful opportunity

    PS Never had an empire so could not lose one

  • $33309652

    “…..And why would I do that? Nowhere do I claim “superior” status just an explanation…”
    ======================================
    When do you claim to be superior?
    I should say when you called the place a {Quote} “cess pit ” {Unquote}
    I think that makes things pretty clear. LMAO.
    Thanks for making this easy.

    And you may have not lost an empire. But the Brit State did.
    So the “you” in that instance would be the Brit State.

  • barnshee

    So the “you” in that instance would be the Brit State.

    I am the British state?
    (I note you carefully avoid my questions)

  • $33309652

    I did answer your question.
    You never answered me about how many people from the 26 Counties go live in the wee 6.
    And your other question about which section of the wee 6 population in most affected by this 1,000 people who leave. That is easy.
    Everybody. Coz those people who leave are most likely better educated smarter and at the very least they have “get up and Go” spirit.
    Which leaves the Flegger muppets.
    Useless to everybody.
    So, Maybe The Irish should let you keep the Wee 6

  • Croiteir

    If this mess is success …………….