Partitionism in practice: Sinn Fein’s two policies on Phil Hogan..

Carthy and MingErm, this was a little embarrassing for one Sinn Fein’s most talented young politicians (though little enough of the blame accrues to him personally the effect afterwards was apparent in his body language)…

“I know you are a new member of politics, but I have been a member for 27 years,” Mr Hogan replied, adding: “I know what parliamentary privilege is, and I know what it isn’t.”

Noting that Mr Carthy was “against Europe” and against his own nomination, Mr Hogan proceeded to read a letter from Northern Ireland’s Minister for Agrilcuture Michelle O’Neill, in which she outlines her support for Mr Hogan’s nomination.

“There seems to have been a breakdown in discipline in Sinn Féin, and I hope you don’t get into trouble over it,” Mr Hogan said to laughter and applause.

You can pick up the whole exchange here (listen for the committee’s reaction)…

  • Jag

    Not sure what the SF sin was, NI agriculture minister seeking to positively engage with new commissioner, how outrageous! She was probably premature, given the SF opposition to Phil and the formality of today’s “interview”, but she’s not exactly effusive in her congratulations now, is she?

    Phil was robust today. “I want to thank Deputy Flanagan for his brevity” – ascerbic! His detractors didn’t score any meaningful points and I can’t recall a single instance of a candidate getting this close to a commissionership and then falling at this last hurdle.

    Off topic Mick, any chance of a thread for the relative novelty of a political opinion poll in Northern Ireland, published today by the Bel Tel.

  • Cal Murray

    “NI agriculture minister seeking to positively engage with new commissioner”

    They’ve engaged for years through North-South meetings and judging by the warm, friendly and informal tone of the letter it would seem to have previously been a good working relationship. Not sure it was such a good idea to abuse that relationship so publicly on his first day.

    Hogan has been under a lot of pressure at home recently not least from FF, AFAIK no FF MEP actually showed up to apply any pressure today, not sure that looks good for them.

    It was an awkward question/s to ask, because of content and circumstance, however, I note Hogan used stabbing O’Neill in the back as a deflection to avoid giving any answer. Not sure that looks good for him

    he’s an unpleasant individual, but sure, he doesn’t like SF so he can’t be all bad, eh Mick

  • New Yorker

    Hogan is a pro who slapped down a dull novice. Are SF in the Republic against Hogan’s nomination and SF in the North for Hogan’s nomination? What other areas do SF have one position in the Republic and the opposite position in the North?

  • Neil

    I hear some of the shinners from the south like milk in their tea, while some up here take it black. More embarrassing evidence of the partitionist mentality. Or possibly different people having different points of view. One or the other definitely.

  • Jag

    In fairness, SF does try to achieve consistency North and South, and GA has recently called for focus on “joinedyuppness” which will further homogenise policy (and should increase the potency of all-Ireland resources, seriously just wait for the next NI elections which I predict here will be called in the next 12 days).

    There are a few inconsistencies I have picked up which range from the personal like
    Sean Quinn – SF (N) – hero

    Sean Quinn – SF (S) – villain

    to more significant policies
    Cut property taxes/rates by 15% – SF (N) – no way! See what they’re doing in Strabane, increases of 3% per annum
    Cut property taxes/rates by 15% – SF (S) – that’s policy and to blazes with the effect of the cut on the provision of social housing

  • NMS

    Mick, perhaps you have touched on a serious problem here for the Provos. If Matt really is one of their more talented reps., then they really have a problem. Never before in the history of the Irish State has the education standards of the elected reps of any party been below that of the average standard of the public, until Sinn Féin.

    I would suggest that Carthy is one more example of a person who has never done a real job in his life, let alone got himself an education.

  • Neil

    You should agitate for a more British model, and elect primarily millionaire, privately educated politicians who’ve never worked a day in their lives. They may be a bit out of touch with reality but at least you won’t feel bad tugging your forelock.

  • Jag

    “AFAIK no FF MEP actually showed up to apply any pressure today, not sure that looks good for them.”

    You might want to sit down for this Cal, but there’s no longer any FF MEP!

    Brian Crowley, the only candidate to win under the FF banner last May has been kicked out of the party and now sits as an Independent in the European Parliament. There are four SF MEPs, and their contribution yesterday was feeble; the articulate Independent Ming Flanagan was better but was batted away by a very robust Phil.

  • mickfealty

    As I tried to point out in the OP, Matt’s not the problem. It’s the lack of framing within the party at a political level on a robust 32c level ground.

    For the partitionists amongst you (you know who you are) this is not a problem for 6c SF, but it makes the promise to resist Hogan’s appointment look like opportunistic posturing.

    So Carthy goes in with a broken bat from the start, broken not simply because of what the DRD minister does, but because no one in the party is bothering to build a cross border policy framework.

    To build legitimacy for the project you need a modicum of consistency in how you administer the mandates you already have.