Ever heard of “Operation Irish” in Wales?

The Sh!t hit the fan, literally, at the end of this week’s British Irish Parliamentary Assembly in London today.

A group of Welsh and Irish parliamentarians urged the Assembly to condemn the offensive use of the term “Operation Irish” as the code for a South Wales police operation to persuade schoolchildren to clear up dog mess.

The police have apologised and say that “operational names are randomly assigned to policing operations for administrative purposes.”

This rather misses the point which is that some plonker failed to realise that this would be offensive and randomly selected another name.

The Assembly couldn’t take a formal position on the matter as it was a last minute motion and members hadn’t had the chance to study the case for themselves.

But Co-Chairs Laurence Robertson MP and Joe McHugh TD will be asking the cops to comment.

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  • Nordie Northsider

    I don’t believe for a second that the name was randomly chosen. Poor form. Still love Wales though.

  • sherdy

    The poor computer gets blamed for every stupid decision.

  • between the bridges

    Computer says Irish! seriously wtf? surely a police force would have the ability to exclude race/nationality/colour from operation names…

  • Seamuscamp

    Ever spoken to a Welsh policeman?

  • Charles_Gould

    Wales actually isn’t a country, it is a principality.

  • From my dictionary:

    Principality: a country ruled by a prince. (added emphasis).

  • BarneyT

    Whatever a principality is or isn’t Wales lost its country status when they were dominated and subsumed into england , and they are duly represented under the English st George’s flag. That’s how the welsh like it. They have on numerous occasions aligned with their fellow English country men to inflict untold damage in Ireland so I’ve no doubt an anti irishness would and does flourish in this part of England.

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  • Hughie Mc

    BarneyT exhibits a serious lack of historical insight: “Wales lost its country status when they were dominated and subsumed into england (sic)…” From early in the 13th century what we would today call Wales had its own civil law but was subject to English criminal law. The original Principality of Wales existed from 1216 to 1536 and was comprised of about two thirds of modern-day Wales. It was the personal fiefdom of the King of England. In 1485, Henry Tudor, Earl of Richmond and of the by then ancient and great Welsh House of Tudor established by Rhys ap Tewdwr, descendant of Rhodri the Great, seized the English throne. It was not until Henry VIII’s reign that it was decided to merge also the civil laws in order to ensure that the remaining Lords of the Welsh Marches, of whom the philanderer enjoyed serious but paranoiac worries, might be more easily managed. This was brought about by the Laws in Wales Acts of 1535 and 1542.

    BarneyT would also appear a little paranoid: “They have on numerous occasions aligned with their fellow English country men to inflict untold damage in Ireland…” But proof offers he none. As far as I am aware the Celtic Welsh depredations in Ireland have been confined to the rugby field.

    Curiously enough one of the most noted experts on Celtic Welsh, Irish, Scottish and Breton language, history and anthropology was the uncle of General De Gaulle, also called Charles de Gaulle. Indeed, Charles Senior wrote books and pamphlets advocating that these four Celtic peoples should reunite into one greater Celtic nation.

  • Delphin

    To be honest what the Welsh police choose to call their ‘operations’ does not overly concern me, for as we say in these parts ‘what else can you expect from a pig but a grunt’

  • Son of Strongbow

    I think it was a bit of long delayed payback for all those Irish slave raids and stealing poor St. Patrick away.

    Paddy was involved with pigs on Slemish was he not?

  • BarneyT

    Just being provocative but seriously I felt welsh identity was strong and there would be more sustained calls for representation in the …flag. The reason this troubles me is I regard the welsh as a nationalistic nation, dominated or otherwise, and it makes no sense to sit back and accept the flag of the union as their own in its current form. Perhaps the welsh are beyond that and focus on establishing their identity via their language (30% capability ?) and other outlets, and not via cotton and polyester . But as I say they proudly fly the dragon at times but I guess unionism overrides and my way of thinking is out of place

  • Over the years I have met and worked with many Welsh people. They all seemed proud of their nationality and i never detected any hang ups about being both Welsh and British. Good neighbours.