Sir Stirling Moss: Cretin

A rolling stone gathers no moss. And yet…The Guardian reports wise old owl Sir Stirling’s belief that “women do not have the mental aptitude for the sport”. (F1 being the sport in question.)

“I think they have the strength, but I don’t know if they’ve got the mental aptitude to race hard, wheel-to-wheel,”

In fairness, he provides a sterling explanation:

“The trouble is, when you’re racing, it’s pretty tiring,”

One word, Stirling: Labour.

Here’s an alternative reason why women aren’t driving in F1, not to mention are generally under-represented in a million board rooms, union HQs, legislatures and church hierarchies. The doors and interview panels are staffed by people like Sir Striling Moss.

  • I can certainly remember two women drivers in the 1970s. One was Italian called Lola Lombardi or something like that.
    The other was a British woman who had a Polish sounding name and was also a downhill skier. Neither very successful.
    I also remember Moss driving and the crash which nearly killed him.
    Frankly he never struck me s. very nice man, all unreconstructed chauvinist rich guy from the 1950s…
    He did not come across well in a recent a documentary with lookalike Patrick Stewart…Stewart plainly hero-worshipping him seemed to back off a little when Moss was revelling in his reputation as a ladies man.
    As a general rule people over 60 talk nonsense.
    Oops I mean 61.
    Next year I will mean 62.

  • aquifer

    You go faster and faster until you may crash and die.

    There is a lot of spare sperm about.

    Women know they are worth more than that.

    Why am I thinking about how men do politics and war?

  • Rory Carr

    Perhaps the poor man has forgotten all about the accomplishments of Pat Moss whose record in championship rally driving over two decades from 50’s – 70’s was more than the equal of any man. One can only imagine that he thinks of her in terms of, “My sister, the equestrian,” for she was no slouch as a leading show-jumper either.

    Easy mistake to make.

  • babyface finlayson

    Mossogynist!

  • Dec

    Aging racing driver in mysoginy row – who da thunk it?

  • Lionel Hutz

    Well, I cannot believe that it is all to do with sexism. These teams are sending tens of millions and need a driver who can shave an extra tenth a second off here and there. I could see there being an imbalance but the fact that there hasn’t been one female F1 driver i a long time suggests there is a difference too.

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  • Ruarai

    Hutz,

    Before Lewis Hamilton would you have applied that logic to the lack of black drivers?

    Before Thatcher would you have applied that logic to the lack of female Prime Ministers?

    You “cannot believe that it is all to do with sexism” because the incentives to find the right driver are so high. Well, show me the evidence that women have been considered and rejected then.

    You cannot believe it’s all to do with sexism because the incentives are so high. So tell me, how the hell can the developing world, broadly speak, afford to prevent women gaining access to equal opportunities?

    One of the stupidest aspects of sexism, misogyny, patriarchy, etc, is not simply the harm and injustice it inflicts on women and girls but the harm such barriers to talent and participation deliver to everyone.

    Hutz, if people really approached social relations based on an attempt to find and make the best of the best talent, most of history would have been unrecognizably different.

  • Lionel Hutz

    Ruarai,

    No I wouldn’t have applied that logic to the lack of black drivers. There are other reasons for that. But in a similar way to tennis, the successful have been children of by and large rich and white parents.

    There’s clearly sexism in politics.

    I’m not going to go trawling through evidence because I don’t really care that much and was just making a comment. But for what its worth, there have been a handful of women F1 drivers. I’m sure there have been many more test drivers.

    I think you are drawing too many parrallels. Sports club owners by and large need to take advantage of the best talent. So many US Sports are dominated by black men. The players are a commodity to these groups, used to get maximum return on investment. I just cannot believe that one F1 chief wouldn’t have an eye on the massive marketing potential of having a women F1 driver and the interest it would spark. I mean look at Danica Patrick.

  • “Before Lewis Hamilton would you have applied that logic to the lack of black drivers”

    I don’t think that comment is particularly fair. I do not profess to be an expert on human brain wiring but I have read a couple of books on the subject. One of them was by Alan and Barbara Pease called – ‘Why men don’t listen and why women can’t read maps’

    It is said that men in general have better visual spatial ability than women. That is a particularly important ability in motor racing. Strength is unlikely to be an issue. Those same scientists also say women have a greater ability than men when it comes to communication.

    If anybody has doubts about that point, they should ask why men are generally better than women at sports where strength is not particularly important (e.g. snooker and darts) and why girls do so much better than boys at languages in the schools.

  • BluesJazz

    Car manufacturers now make specific models for women.
    They are generally given a hidden nomenclature like ‘City’ and have the feature ‘rear parking sensors’.
    Everyone is aware of where the market for this feature lies.

  • Ruarai

    Jesus.

  • Reader

    Ruari: Here’s an alternative reason why women aren’t driving in F1, not to mention are generally under-represented in a million board rooms, union HQs, legislatures and church hierarchies. The doors and interview panels are staffed by people like Sir Striling Moss.
    I assumed that the F1 drivers had worked their way up through the ‘lower divisions’ until they caught the eye of an F1 team, and that the starting point is amateur competition where nothing needs to get past an interview panel anyway.
    So I expect, once the dead wood is gone from those institutions, that the ratio of women to men in F1 competition will very soon be much the same as the ratio of girl racers to boy racers on our roads. Whatever that is.

  • Kevsterino

    I think interest in the sport and in playing have to be accounted for. At this time, there is no impediment to African Americans playing major league baseball. My team at this time has not a single African American on the roster. Black Americans would rather play basketball and football.

    Could it be that sporting women are simply occupied with sports they love?

  • Rory Carr

    I see that Sir Stirling has also insisted that. in any biopic of his life, he ought not to be portrayed by “a pooftah”.

    I fancy Imelda Staunton for the role in that case.