The ever changing rhetorical framework of a single term: Collusion…

Newton at The Detail at his withering best as he tries to grab that most Protean of Troubles/Peace Process™ watchwords, collusion…

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  • tyrone_taggart

    In this bit by Newton He is contrasting “Unionist” and “Republican”{SF) view of Collusion. I am left to wonder why he did not compare say “Unionst” with “Nationalist”? Is it he thinks the sdlp was part of SF? could it be there views on the matter did not fit with his theory on the issue?

  • Was this post promoted by this post http://www.thedissenter.co.uk/2012/06/the-past-presently/ ?

  • aquifer

    For the IRA, conspiracy to murder was the rule, not the exception.

  • cynic2

    Shocking – imagine using a picture of Gerry when talking about the IRA

  • tyrone_taggart

    aquifer

    “For the IRA, conspiracy to murder was the rule, not the exception.”

    It was British security forces acting illegaly and getting away with it that made the PIRA. A term given to them by the British army.

    Murdering someone is one thing but in death often taking away there good name is particular type of cruelty.

  • Mick Fealty

    And, collusion chaps?

  • tyrone_taggart

    Newton starting point for his talk was security force in the middle ie a unionist view. What I find strange is how Unionists supported the actions of the Ulster Special Constabulary. As someone who has listened to the heroic tales of a B man. He honestly thought his actions was justified. The organisation is known to have carried out revenge killings and reprisals during the 1920-22 conflict.

    I honestly don’t think Newton can think of the British security force as anything other as a middle man/person and not as an active participant which they were.

  • Reader

    tyrone_taggart: As someone who has listened to the heroic tales of a B man. He honestly thought his actions was justified. The organisation is known to have carried out revenge killings and reprisals during the 1920-22 conflict.
    Crikey! How old was he when you spoke to him?

  • cynic2

    …..and 1920 was almost 100 years ago. What next? Viking atrocities in Ireland?

  • tyrone_taggart

    “Crikey! How old was he when you spoke to him”

    I don’t know?

  • tyrone_taggart

    cynic2
    “…..and 1920 was almost 100 years ago”

    How time flies when you are having fun.

    48 years from 1968…….