Spirit of St Patrick deserts Armagh for Rio de Janeiro?

In the digital start up, Newry Times there’s a good quote from Conor Murphy on Saturday’s Band Parade on Inside Politics… in which he points to the economic cost of the band parade…

Although this seems to have been largely attributable to the bomb hoax left on College Street in the city by person or persons unknown on the band parade route itself presumably facilitating the evacuation and closure of several business that the parade alone would not have effected…

In other news, guess who brought the spirit of St Patricks Day to Rio?

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  • Billy Pilgrim

    ‘Although this seems to have been largely attributable to the
    bomb left on College Street…’

    A lie, presented as a fact.

    Everyone I know had made alternative arrangements hours, or days, before the bombscare.

  • “there’s a good quote from Conor Murphy”

    There’s a better one from Conor: ‘killed the spirit of St Patrick’. Perhaps the irony was lost on this member of the Provisional Republican Movement, a body that did more than kill spirit.

    The involvement of Ian jnr is rather unusual. Is the DUP trying to outflank SF on the ‘outreach’ front by promoting the religious dimension of St Patrick?

  • tacapall

    Mick what the crack about –

    “Although this seems to have been largely attributable to the bomb left on College Street in the city by person or persons unknown on the band parade route itself presumably facilitating the evacuation and closure of several business that the parade alone would not have effected”

    A suspected package is not a bomb, no-one called the PSNI to say there was a bomb why the inference that it was a real bomb ?

  • Mick Fealty

    Well, it was treated as a bomb. It had the effects of it being bomb. And this rather than the parade will also have been reason the army helicopters were up in the sky (which is actually what Conor suggested, I think, ‘killed the spirit of St Patrick’).

    So far as I knew at the time of posting it was not confirmed as not being a bomb.

  • between the bridges

    MF did Mr Murphy condemn those who planted the device?

    BP everyone you know? good source methinks not!

    tapcall.. perhaps if a member of the public had not reported the device, planted on the band parade route, there would have been i phone call, to disrupt the band parade as intended…

  • Billy Pilgrim

    ‘It had the effects of it being bomb.’

    The ‘effect’ of a bomb is an explosion.

  • tacapall

    BTB there was no bomb planted to condemn unless of course you know otherwise, which I don’t believe you do.

    As for your last paragraph BTB you’re just making assumptions.

  • Mick Fealty

    Really Billy. So an unexploded bomb is a…

    Tac, I’m just waiting for confirmation… which three days later has not yet been forthcoming…

  • between the bridges

    tapcall…where you not the one linking the washedup post? and i said ‘device’ not ‘bomb’, as for assumptions perhaps that would explain why i started the paragraph referred to with ‘perhaps’…

  • between the bridges

    apologies tacapall not tapcall, no edit on slugger!!

  • Mick Fealty

    Okay, my apologies to all, especially Billy. Pete has just pointed out to me that the device was declared a hoax on Saturday night. And apologies also for my narky attitude…

  • tacapall

    I understand that Mick but I also know you’ve been around long enough enough to know that these days a viable device with a warning wouldn’t be defused and cleared within an hour or two. Unlike the one at Navan Fort which the PSNI did recieve a warning of wasn’t cleared for almost a day and by the way was 2 days after the parade.

  • tacapall

    No probs BTB

  • between the bridges

    few things re this…the route is a long standing band parade route, the parade itself is in it’s 8th year, the only objections been given are that the two cannot/should not combine on the 17th of march…given that next year the band parade will be on the 16th (17th is a sunday) there should be no objections at all….

  • sdelaneys

    Had a good look but can’t find anything remotely like a ‘good quote’.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    BtB

    ‘given that next year the band parade will be on the 16th (17th is a sunday) there should be no objections at all….’

    Is that true? If it is, it’s good news.

    Yes, I’m happy to support the loyalist march next year, on 16 March. Indeed, I promise to attend, God spares me.

    And I’ll look forward to an enjoyable family day out the next day, St Patrick’s Day.

    And I’ll support an invitation to the Cormeen Band and others, to participate in the main parade. I’ll write to my representatives, including Mr Murphy, urging him to do so. I would genuinely love to share St Patrick’s Day with Quincy and his crew.

    If the Cormeen Band were to accept such an invitation, they would be welcomed with open arms, and we could then have a shared St Patrick’s Day. It would be a very happy day for all in Armagh.

    All, of course, except for those who think sectarianism and separation are good things.

    A refusal to accept such an invitation would prove the Cormeen Band think exactly that.

    But that’s two years away. We’ll all pass a lot of water under the bridge between now and then.

  • BP and BtB, you’re both mistaken about next year, in fact since this is a leap year, St Pat’s will be on the Monday not Sunday.

  • “you’re both mistaken about next year, in fact since this is a leap year”

    ardmajel55, I think you’ll find that March follows February and that March 17, 2013 is indeed a Sunday. The jump this year was from Thursday to Saturday.

  • It’s a fair cop, Nevin. Guilty as charged. Bloody leap years eh?

  • ardmajel55, some civil servants may be using ‘bloody’ language tomorrow when this evening’s ‘fair cop’ NALIL blog gets flagged up 🙂

  • andnowwhat

    Would it be beyond the remit of a blog for an appointed honest broker to go to Armagh and ask a few people, of all shades, their perception of what happened on Saturday?

    We’re not getting a clear enough picture.

  • Mick Fealty

    That would be great. if we could think of a reliable way of doing it?

  • andnowwhat

    Maybe a couple of bloggers from here (not one’s with an agenda.) take a trip and just spend the day asking around.

    No disrespect to either but you’d hardly send Chris or Quincy. Alias is quite good at shooting from either hip.

  • andnowwhat

    Hell, Allan in Belfast would be perfect too

  • Nevin 9.58. You might very well comment on that, I couldn’t possibly think it. We have a swivel servant in the family so I know the territory. Bonne nuit tous.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    I’ve been telling you all what people in Armagh are saying. Most of you don’t want to hear it.

  • between the bridges

    could BP or someone from armagh confirm if this is a video of the main ‘cross community’ parade or the scout parade?
    http://youtu.be/IvA-5lMPEhY

    scouts, gaa clubs, floats etc harmless enough, quite a few tricolors, don’t think i personally would have been too offended but at the same time it does look/feel rather single identity and i have no idea who or what the guy at 5.23 (walking behind the chopper) is meant to be?!!! was st pat special forces?

  • Drumlins Rock

    “And I’ll support an invitation to the Cormeen Band and others, to participate in the main parade.”

    Billy, is that the parade you want them to join in? http://youtu.be/IvA-5lMPEhY the “cross community” one? That appears to be the “main parade” to me, would Cormeen be welcome in that parade with flags banneretts badges and drums on full display?

    PS. with 43 bands I would suggest the Cormeen parade is “the main parade” in Armagh on the 17th of March!

  • between the bridges

    DR surely that can’t be the ‘cross community’ parade? if it is the hypocrisy on here has been laughable!!

  • Drumlins Rock

    its quite a big parade not to be, even if its not surely this very republican parade would have interfered with the cross-community parade much more than one 3 or 4 hours later, unless it was at 6am.

    From the Parades Commission Website-

    Armagh City & District Council

    Date of Parade 17th March 2012
    Start Time of Outward Route 14.30

    Proposed Outward Route
    Friary Road Irish Street Dole Street Thomas Street Market Street Upper English Street Lower English Street Cathedral Road

    Number of Bands 7

    Expected Number of Participants 1,000

    Expected Number of Supporters 18,000

    1st Armagh Scouts

    Date of Parade 17th March 2012

    Start Time of Outward Route 10.00

    Proposed Outward Route
    CBS Grounds Lower Irish Street Ogle Street
    Market Street Upper English Street Lower English Street Railway Street
    Banbrook Hill Lower English Street Cathedral Road St Patricks RC Cathedral

    End Time of Outward Route 12.00

    Number of Bands 4

    You tell me which of the two parades was that video off?

  • between the bridges

    DR methinks someone got confused they must have thought that ‘cross community’ meant crossmaglen community…

  • Drumlins Rock

    Well you have to give it to Conor Murphy, he did try to create a Cross Community, thankfully no-one played his game this time. Apart from Billy, Taggart & Nazipall that is!

  • tacapall

    Drumlins you really are wearing blinkers, I think your friends on the RUC AA thread need some help !

  • between the bridges

    tacapall, did you watch the video? in your view would that qualify as a cross community parade?

  • tacapall

    BTB I had no problems with the Ulster bands joining in the council sponsored parade without be covered up or their music being censored as long as it wasn’t offensive music I consider myself Irish so I have no problems with the tricolor being displayed either after all its St Patrick’s day and I’ve never seen a St Patrick’s day parade without one and to be honest its been a very long time since I’ve been to one so I cant say whats a cross community parade and whats not.

  • between the bridges

    tacapall my compliments on the cruyff like body swerve!! seriously having watched that if that is meant to be ‘neutral’…

  • Drumlins Rock

    just wondering, did that parade as shown on the video conform with the parades commission notification?

  • between the bridges

    i was just wondering with all the attention these events got how come tacapall is the only one to comment on the video of the ‘cross’ community parade…strangely quiet BP JR etc…

  • Drumlins Rock

    btb, maybe it deserves its own thread ?

  • between the bridges

    DR there has been SO much interest and SO many comments on this subject maybe it does deserve it’s own thread…

    http://www.politics.ie/forum/northern-ireland/184554-cross-community.html

    *cough*