Public property: Keep out

So a “public ownership” model has successfully driven China’s economy for the last thirty years?

So says The Guardian’s Seamus Milne, a socialist so impressed by the authoritarian state’s “public ownership” approach to economic growth – never mind that China’s economy has annually soared since it chucked communist economics and began a Great Opening to market economics in 1979 – that he thinks we should take some inspiration from it.

Whatever the merits of public ownership, China is hardly the place since to study it. Its public has about as much control over the state’s property (terrifyingly broadly defined) as does Cuba’s.

Milne’s ramblings reminded me of one of Trimble’s better quips about Sinn Fein seeking a Celtic Cuba; an observation too few Irish Republicans felt insulted by.

By the way, if you want a decent sense of what “public ownership” would lead to in a Sinn Fein run Celtic Cuba, just ask yourself: What’s the swankiest building on the Falls Road?

  • Mick Fealty

    Quite wicked Mr McK. Did Mr T really say that?

  • “By the way, if you want a decent sense of what “public ownership” would lead to in a Sinn Fein run Celtic Cuba, just ask yourself: What’s the swankiest building on the Falls Road?”

    Undoubtedly Cultúrlann closely followed by St Peter’s Cathedral. In saying that Coláiste Feirste has a ‘swanky’ new place and St Mary’s University College still looks pretty good, though I have a personal liking for St. Paul’s which seemed to have escaped many of the horrible “wreckovations” which blighted the rest of the country since Vatican II. Conway Mill has fairly shaped up after it’s renovations as well though I dare it most of them will be outshone by the new building going up in the RVH.

    What was the point again?

  • Yes he did Mick. This reference also shows another perspective: that the Cubans are Celts so that’s all right then http://bestofbothworlds.blogspot.com/2004/09/six-counties-over-texas-one-of-overseas.html And further on that theme Cuba ran http://www.celtfestcuba.org/ for the first time ever last year. Ah the romance of revolutionary endeavour.

  • Ruarai

    Ulick, perhaps I should have said, “Is there a swankier building on the Falls than Connolly House?”

    You’re right about Cultúrlann, St Paul’s and St Peter’s, insofar as they’re more old world magestic (though the optics, in our paranoid society, of a former Protestant Church now being a Gaelic cultural centre – and a fine one, last time I was there – are suboptimal for persuaders for a United Ireland), I wouldn’t categorize them as swanky.

  • @Ruarai obviously then you haven’t been on the Falls since Uachtarán na hÉireann opened the multimillion pound extension to the Cultúrlann. However to answer your latest question “is there a swankier building on the Falls than Connolly House?” then the answer is yes, they all are given that Connolly House is not on the Falls Rd, it’s situated quite a distance away on the Anderstown Rd, past Casement Park. Is it swanky? Looks pretty nondescript to me, though its hard to say as its surrounded by a six foot wall, but perhaps you know different?

  • Andersonstown Rd, obviously.

  • cynic2

    “its surrounded by a six foot wall”

    Most Secret Police HQs are.

  • Rory Carr

    …as indeed are many places of worship, hospitals, schools and, of course, my own family home in Tottenham (nah ! only joking about the last one).

  • Rory Carr

    It is not socialism that leaves Cuba materially impoverished but rather the brutal policy of its large colonial neighbour in placing an effective blockade on the export of its products.

    Despite that, Cuba, since the overthrow of US puppet dictator, Batista, has far outstripped its voracious giant of a neighbour in the wealth of spiritual and cultural growth and most especally in the provision of medical care and education for all of its people, (and indeed aid to its neighbours in Latin America and of course, in the USA, most strikingly after super-efficient capitalism failed in its duty to come to the aid of the people of New Orleans, whose destitution capitalist greed and corruption had caused in the first place).

    With the limited wealth that it has,Cuba attempts to care for the welfare of its people. The USA with all its vast wealth in contrast insists that its weak and poor (whom its system has made weak and poor) go to the wall in order that the sleek and fat may grow ever more sleek, ever more fat.

  • andnowwhat

    Sainsbury’s are on tghe Falls this last few years. Their quite swanky or they not

  • aquifer

    The Chinese state has a simple strategy. Look at everything the west consumes and make it cheaper than they can. That way the Chinese state gets the income taxes and other revenues, which they use to buy real natural resources in other countries and develop their own renewable energy industry. So they can continue to grow their economy.

    The western democracies have a simple strategy too. Borrow some more money to win the next election and wage wars to try to keep oil cheap for everybody and sell financial bets.

    Which looks like a winning strategy?