What the UK spends stuff on.

Apologies for the delay and thanks to Malcolm Redfellow for the tip. Here’s a great graphic from the Guardian on UK Government spending 10/11. Have a play to find out the easiest way to interpretate. (I bought the paper to get hard copy,,,)

Anyway UK debt interest is £44 billion quid a year. For those of us lucky enough to work that’s twenty quid a week each.

Seven billion quid a year on  the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority…..

Child benefit costs £12 billion a year (I think it’s for the scrap heap imminently…)

Explore and feedback please….

 

  • FuturePhysicist

    You can’t take a laissez-faire attitude to nuclear decommissioning.

    Anyway, these nuclear decommissioning bodies make money from land sales and reprocessing.

  • Dewi

    Just didn’t realise it cost that much. I don’t think they make seven billion quid from land sales and reprocessing!!!

  • vanhelsing

    Desk nice post. As it happens I was lecturing on last years version of this very graphic a week ago! Will comment further when on my PC later.

  • FuturePhysicist

    They obviously make a loss Dewi, but the loss is preventing radiation leaks which I’m sure taxpayers would complain about government not doing anything about.

  • FuturePhysicist

    The loss is in the manner of £42 billion, described as “cost for dealing with the decommissioning and clean-up of the UK’s civil nuclear legacy”

  • FuturePhysicist

    They gain some money from generation of recommissioned sites too of course.

  • This is a good link and it challenges people, in a simple way, on how they would re-allocate money if they were in power.

    The scary thing is that if nothing is done, those pension and health payments will continue to rise without any economic growth to compensate for it (even if the Government’s present growth targets are met – which they will not). The retirement age has to rise further (at least up to 70) than the age earmarked for the near future (66). But will the Coalition Government have the guts to make that decision in this Parliament?

    The Labour Party would be well advised not to try and win the next general election. Otherwise they will have to make more U turns than Blair and Brown would have to in their wildest dreams.

  • Dewi

    It’s just when comparisons are made between energy costs nuclear cleanup doesn’t get mentioned.

  • FuturePhysicist

    What’s the point of raising the retirement age if no jobs are being generated for the young?

    May as well scrap retirement, that’s the way things are heading now.

  • FuturePhysicist

    I believe I mentioned it Dewi, but at least people in the Hazmat suits concreting down old buildings are getting money back into the economy doing perhaps the worst and most dangerous job in the entire public sector, with the possible exception of the armed forces … and I say possible.

  • Dewi

    We’ll suspend that debate FP. In the meantime to Seymour’s point what do you take out?

  • FuturePhysicist

    While the heavy spending requirements may not be avoided, it’s clear that the ConDems are guilty of creating some of their own waste.

    Why is it that the NIO’s spending is increasing, when the develoved administration at Stormont is decreasing?

    Understandably the disparity between NI and Scotland is that tax revenues have been hit quite badly here because it has negative growth and job losses.

    Could someone identify the reserved powers which are being immune to the cuts? There’s no military presence here, so is the leather merchant and his cronies in office splurging like the lightbulb replacement customer at the head of the Science department.

  • Comrade Stalin

    Dewi,

    I don’t think that point about the cleanup costs is true. New nuclear power stations are having proper accounting done on them, with the lifetime operating cost and the cleanup/decommissioning costs fully declared up front. So these unusual taxpayer-borne cleanup costs are there to deal with legacy power stations only.

    The high costs of dealing with these legacy problems are not that surprising, the bullet has to be bitten. The worst problems are the old Windscale piles up at Sellafield which are going to take another 20 years to finish cleaning up.

    Nuclear is becoming fashionable again due to the significant rise in world energy prices, and because governments are now starting to put a price on carbon emissions.

  • Reader

    Comrade Stalin: Nuclear is becoming fashionable again due to the significant rise in world energy prices, and because governments are now starting to put a price on carbon emissions.
    At the risk of igniting partisan debate here – carbon emission charging represents the “cleanup costs” for fossil fuels. Not that the carbon charges are ring fenced, of course.

  • FuturePhysicist

    Indeed Reader not much gets said about the toxic waste of fossil fuel energy usage.

  • syniadau

    What stands out to me is that Wales has had to take a bigger hit than any other part of the UK.

    In overall terms, UK expenditure is almost exactly the same, just 0.34% up. Scotland’s devolved expenditure is up by 2.95%. Northern Ireland’s is down by 2.01%, but Wales has had to take a hit of 3.92%.

    Of course the settlements reflect different devolved responsibilities in the three administrations, but we can make these two points: first, that these responsibilities have not changed between 2009/10 and 2010/11; and second, that because overall UK spending is almost exactly the same it means that the cost of things devolved to Scotland and Northern Ireland but not devolved to Wales would have very little effect on the overall Welsh figure. And even if we focus on the most obvious difference, we can see that Westminster’s spending on police and crime was reduced by 3.2%, which is only very slightly less than the Welsh reduction.

  • lamhdearg

    do the bbc (who i like) receive 3bn on top of the licence fee, or is the 3bn the fee.

  • Nunoftheabove

    Does anyone know where we can get a comparable xls for the revenue and/or specifically the debt and debt interest numbers ?

  • lamhdearg

    If the gov/we spend X on the N.H.S, and Y goes on wages, then the wages are taxed at 20% the gov/we get that back, Then the N.H.S. staff spend the rest of their wages in the shops ect, the gov/we get the V.A.T. and the shop workers taxes, how much do we really spend on the N.H.S.

  • Reader

    lamhdearg: the gov/we get the V.A.T. and the shop workers taxes, how much do we really spend on the N.H.S.
    Ah, but think of the lost economic opportunity. If even a small fraction of the NHS employees were released onto the job market, their famed energy, enthusiasm, skills and talent would not only plug the skilled labour gap, but also prime the pump for a new entrepreneurial boom.
    It’s shocking the way doom mongers suggest they would just languish on the dole.

  • Harry Flashman

    Given that almost every department seems to have had an increase in spending (except for Defence oddly enough, typical heartless, er Tories).

    Can someone tell me where these mythical brutal “cuts” that the BBC keeps telling us about are occurring?

    I, like most families I know, was able to slash spending by at least 20% almost overnight a couple of years ago. I’ll bet most of you did the same and not a single child is going without food, decent clothes, healthcare or education.

    The holidays to Dubai are finished, the new car I had my eye on is shelved indefinitely, the wife’s motorcycle was sold, gymn and tv subscriptions cancelled, dinners out every weekend are a thing of the past, food is purchased at the supermarket with an eye to bargains these days and I haven’t bought new clothes (other than underwear, and they’re bargain packs in Tesco) in all that time, shoes ditto that’s what shoe repairmen are there for, the list is endless.

    I can do it, we all can do it, how come the only people who can’t do it are the government?