Best of #Hackgate commentary (3)

Some of the best analysis of the last few days (with more to come):

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  • Independent Ulster

    Nobody has died, put a few people in jail and move on, where did people think the tabloids got their stories from anyway?

  • Some excellent stuff there Mr Fealty.
    As one might expect from people already damaged by tabloids……Chris Bryant & John Prescott I think they have played blinders this week. They have been the best commentators on the issue.
    The truth that journalism at its worst, tabloid journalism and NOTW especially is little more than a protection racket is finally getting thru.
    Two Jags and the man in his briefs were effectively thought to be damaged beyond redemption but the very fact that they have no reputation to lose has emboldened them.
    “Steve Coogan on Newsnight”……is an unlikely way to begin a paragraph. Almost as unlikely as “Hugh Grant is my new hero” but contrast their demeanour (Coogans barely restrained anger and Grants self effacing anger) with those of the deliberate provocation of Jon Gaunt (QT) and Paul Somebody (the NOTW hack on Newsnight).
    To use an over-used phrase…..its a “tipping point”.
    And yet the courage of Prescott, Bryant, Grant and Coogan is a contrast to the politicians, journalists and celebrities who fear the Murdoch monster.
    Too many “good” journos in tabloids tolerated it all.
    Too many journos in the wider freemasonry of journalism tolerated tabloid excess because they themselves relishe the fact that they were on the “decent” side of the open sewer.
    That nobody clicked at all that the weekly scoops of the NOTW was not entirely good investigative journalism or good luck….their reporters had an illegal inside track as much as steroid filled athlete in the Olympics.

    No doubt “revenge” (or “justice”) motivates the best commentators but the notion that commentators are endangering a “free press” as Ive just read…is a farcical.

    Mob rule taking 200 NOTW jobs at Wapping? Well two things ….just over a year ago the NOTW was campaigning for a government which would axe the jobs of people as blameless and more blameless than the NOTW staff.
    And for those of us prepared to look at History…..many of the leaders who incited the mob in revolutionary France died at the hands of the mob just a few years later.

    But the ironic thing is that we might have expected the true watchdogs to be the politicians, the press and the police…….yet they are implicated in the scandal.
    And we are left with Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant to actually show a degree of leadership.

  • andnowwhat

    First time I heard this mentioned was today on the Now Show. There was a proposal last month to condense the staffingf and titles under one umbrella as a cost saving exercise ie. The Sunday Son.

    No wishing to run off on a wild one (which always means that one is going to do exactly that) but I wonder how much the Arab Spring, with the superficial reading pointing at the power of new media, inspired people to protest.
    I was on Twitter and it was impressive.

    Who knows, if may even inspire people to reconnect with politics again?

  • Independent Ulster

    Surely only a matter of time before the other papers are dragged into this, certainly the other tabloids will be implicated and after much huffing and puffing and a beefed up press complaints process little will change. The rumours of Coulon’s intelligence connections might yet give us something tasty to chew on.

    Politically Cameron has been winged but will survive and perhaps he will unstrip, the now vindicated Vince Cable of his powers to rule on the matter.

  • pippakin

    Its not working out too badly for Murdoch and the evil empire. He/they get rid of something that had outlived its usefulness, just in time to announce they have cleaned up their act and are now fit owners of a squeaky clean tv company, and oh by the way, we just happen to have new Sunday paper to con the gullible with.

    I believe other tabloids were probably involved and since the most popular of those other tabloids is the Sun….

    I also think twitter and facebook really are taking over the hue and cry, enjoyable and impressive, but a bit scary too. I only hope whoever the ‘mob’ goes for continues to actually be guilty. It will be too bad if they’re not.

  • michael-mcivor

    Anyone hear where the news of the world wake is at-

    Rupert murdoch would be chief mourner- I would like to pay my respects and say – i am sorry for your troubles

  • michael-mcivor

    Speaking of the sunday papers and twitter-

    alan Lord Suger has just called the mail on sunday scum on twitter-

    the mail is going to print that suger give labour £ 37 thousand-

  • dwatch

    Could this scandal wreck the coalition government?
    “Who knows where this will all end for politics, the press and the police | The Spectator”
    http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7085183/who-knows-where-this-will-all-end-for-politics-the-press-and-the-police.thtml

  • andnowwhat

    My good lady reads the Sunday mail (it’s cheap) and there seems to be only one thing they hate more than labour, the coalition.

    I used to read the Sunday Times until very recently and it was ditto for them.

    If Labour had a decent leader, this could have proved a very short government. Things are bad for Cameron when Tebbit hates him

  • carnmoney.guy

    Its a pity some of the ‘great’ journos at the paper at the minute, explain why they turned a blind eye to what went on previously

  • If we believe that the journalists responsible for the worst excesses at NOTW are no longer there….then logically they have retired or moved on to other newspapers.
    The charge levied at Rebekah Brooks is that she was either incompetent or complicit.
    This charge can now be levied at Journalism in general.

  • Mick Fealty

    A lot of #NOTw old stagers have moved on. The crowd facing redundancy now are not the old troops that Murdoch re-built the brand on. The demographic is young and probably getting a job inside the ‘organisation’…

  • Yes thats my point.
    But its less than a decade.
    The “old troops” have not all gone into retirement.
    Some are in other newsrooms either keeping a low profile having mended their ways or spreading the poison into the rest of the Street of Shame.
    All decent journalists will be calling for their sacking too.

    But even this new NOTW newsroom has happily called for other blameless people to be sacked for Britains economic well being.

  • Dewi

    Just hope PC Plod is on the runway when Murdoch flies in to shove him in clink.

  • Rory Carr

    Also from The Spectator some nice little reprises of the inimitable Craig Brown’s dairy snippets from back in 1987 on perceptions of the man himself among fellow journalists. This:

    …for some reason there are precious few stories about Rupert Murdoch. He [may] well be bad but he is obviously not bonkers, and both attributes are necessary for real popularity among journalists. Anecdotes about Murdoch’s wit are few and far between, but the following one might help boost his reputation. It also involves William Rees-Mogg, a similarly under-anecdotalised figure. Rees-Mogg has a favourite dinner-party gambit. ‘In my time,’ he likes to say, ‘I have met two Kings, three Queens and three Popes,’ (I forget the exact proportions) ‘and I have found none of them remarkable.’ Everyone is then expected to titter politely in admiration. A few years ago, Murdoch was at a dinner-party listening to Rees-Mogg reciting this familiar litany: ‘In my time I have met two Kings, three Queens and three Popes, and I have found none of them remarkable.’ ‘Maybe they thought you were a bit of prat too, William.’ – 12 September 1987.

    And this:

    Last week I complained that there were very few anecdotes about Murdoch compared with the mountain of anecdotes about Maxwell. I have since been told a few, some of which are little more than the information that the teller of the tale was once in the same room as the great man. But two are quite good. During the Wapping dispute, Murdoch looked out of the window to see a little group of six women carrying a placard saying ‘Lesbians against Murdoch.’ ‘Does that mean the rest of them are all for me?’ A year or two before Wapping, after the Murdoch papers had been running a series of phoney royal scandals, Prince Philip, who loathes him, saw Murdoch standing in a corner at a reception for the Queen in a large London building and stormed over. ‘What the hell are you doing here?’ he bellowed. ‘I own the place,’ replied Murdoch. = 19 September 1987