Goal Avalanche in The Aviva

Lansdowne Road’s Aviva Stadium was the venue for the Clash of the Irelands, which (thankfully) seems to have gone off without any trouble- as had been feared by local residents and others.

But the 5-0 result, even in the context of an end of season friendly-competition fixture played mostly by lower ranking squad members, will provide bragging rights in many workplaces tomorrow. The woodwork was also struck twice in an overwhelmingly one-sided clash.

Another double for Robbie Keane has moved him within two goals of the half century goal target at international level, an astonishing feat for any Irish soccer player (David Healy remains the second highest Irish international goalscorer, though his fall from grace would suggest there is little prospect of him emulating Keane’s achievement.) Mind you, neither has managed to match Joe Bambrick’s feat of scoring 6 goals in one game for Ireland at international level.

Northern Ireland will complete their poor showing in this tournament with a match on Friday evening against Wales, whilst the Republic will face off against Scotland on Sunday in what is likely to be the encounter which will decide who triumphs in this inaugural running of the Carling-sponsored competition.

  • It was sammy…

    Surely there should be one team with no politcal trappings – How bad to Norn Iron have to get before they throw their lot in with Ireland? Its only sport after all?

    Very bad indeed;) Football is different, fortunately.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    oneill,

    This tournament is disaster, it surely needs to go in the bin?

    The boycott originally over money and travel restrictions seemed to morph into another issue – ‘poaching’ – as soon as the money issue was resolved.

    In relation to the travel restictions it is surely madness for a supporters organsiation to go against security advice – after there has already been trouble and with nutcases a plenty on both sides ready to exploit the situation. Dont you agree?

  • Hopping The Border

    I really don’t see what the issue is here.

    Irish men from across Ireland exercise their right to play for Ireland under what they see as their flag and their anthem and not the British anthem and the British flag.

    Why do the IFA seek to restrict this right?

  • between the bridges

    Eire fans sectarian? No way? Gee will there be media frenzy over this? A blog on slugger?
    Restrictions on travel to the games? A comment from McMG? 16hrs to make the post say’s it all.. I await deletion of this post..Lmfao

  • chewnicked

    What is most pathetc about the IFA bleating about so-called poaching is the fact that they have numeerous players in their squads (from u-18 up to senior level) who were born in England-poacher, gamekeeper, yawn, yawn……..

    As for the boycott, it started out as a protest against the cost of the bus, morphed into complaints about restricted travel arrangements, then became a human rights issue before returning to safe ground about eligibilty after the first excuses were addressed.
    The best fans in Europe-aye right- if you are talking about finding reasons not to support your team..

  • Mike the First

    FJH

    At the risk of dragging you into the present day, instead of the past where you obviously love to live – can I ask have you ever heard of Paddy McCourt or Niall McGinn? Ever heard anything about how they’ve been received at NI matches?

    Hint: at the last NI home game, the Kop was loudly singing “There’s only one Pat McCourt”, to demand that the idiot Worthington bring him off the bench.

  • Mike the First

    To Mark McGregor and others – given that you happily seize on the actions of a small minority of fans, when Northern Ireland are concerned, any chance of a comment from you regarding the actions of a minority of Republic of Ireland fans last night such as:

    – booing GSTQ
    – booing Steve Davis
    – singing “Fields of Athenry” with the “SF” and “IRA” add-ins
    – singing offensive songs about “huns”

    Not that this reflects on the decent majority of ROI fans, many of whom going by their supporters’ forums are clearly pissed off at this idiot minority – but that hasn’t always been your approach, has it…?

  • lamhdearg

    Mike the first
    if i may i will field that question and save them the time.

    Its all the brits fault.

  • andnowwhat

    A couple of points for the IFA :

    You cannot force nor “poach” someone to do something against their will.( Something to do with some bloke called William Wilberforce.)

    Telling people they MUST do what you demand is no way of going about things.

  • This tournament is disaster, it surely needs to go in the bin?

    Sammy,

    Without England, a tournament like this is dead in the water.

    The boycott originally over money and travel restrictions seemed to morph into another issue – ‘poaching’ – as soon as the money issue was resolved.

    Yep, and on the basis that no one is reading here, I’ll say this has been our most successful campaign since we dumped the Maze.

    The FAI has lost what due our decision to boycott? 100.00-140,000 Euro? The point re the FAI’s sectarian poaching has been made to a much wider audience eg Sky Sports News yesterday.FFS even Glendinning at the Guardian was giving us a fair hearing.

    In relation to the travel restictions it is surely madness for a supporters organsiation to go against security advice – after there has already been trouble and with nutcases a plenty on both sides ready to exploit the situation. Dont you agree?

    Yep. 100%, I agree for several reasons with the AONISC boycott. Heh;)

    And in the words of the immortal Johnny Rotton…dedicated to all our fans on here, at the ATN, Bele Tele, BBC NI:

    —”Ah-ha-ha. Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated? Good night”—

  • Mike the First

    andnowwhat

    Do you actually imagine that when people talk about “poaching” of players in club football, they mean the player is being forced to do something against his will?

    *rolls eyes*

    Argue about the applicability of the term to international football if you like, but stop acting dumb.

  • Mike the First,
    No indeed.
    I wont of course ever go to Windsor Park. Why on earth would I do a thing like that.?
    I have indeed heard of McCourt and McGinn who play for my “Scottish” club. Good luck to them in exercising their right to play for Norn Iron..and Im sure youd agree that Darron Gibson has the same right. Or maybe you wouldnt.
    As to booing the British National Anthem….well its often heard at the RDS Horse Show. I mean it no disrespect but when its played I develop a bladder problem and go to the bathroom. Its not as tacky as booing it. (and not advisable at Ballsbridge) but certainly I wouldnt stand for it on Irish soil. Never have and never will.

    As Ive said Norn Iron football fans are a curious mix of loyalists and “lets get alongers” who are frankly several years too late in trying to persuade nationalists in Norn Iron that they offer anything to them. Standing up for the British anthem in the context of going to a Norn Iron match or playing for them (I was a great little Nobby Stiles or Tony Dunne in my day) is a step too far for me or showing any degree of respect to a non-flag likewise.
    Thats just me.
    Its not the responsibility of any nationalist to build up or support British institutions in Ireland.
    Thats a unionist responsibility.

  • Trapattoni

    The good thing about the boycott is that the 210 who were there and waving orange standards and singing sectarian songs should be easily identified and I have every faith in the Windsor Ave authorities taking the required action and rooting them out.

  • Republic of Connaught

    To call the FAI’s policy regarding Northern players as sectarian is just false propaganda that lessens any sympathy some like me may feel for the northern supporters. If the FAI REJECT a northern player because of his religion then it is a sectarian policy. Otherwise there is nothing sectarian about accepting players who want to play for the 4 province Ireland team, whatever their religion.

    The FAI and IFA need to devise a formal agreement that any northern player who wants to play for the Republic has to declare before he is 17-18. Otherwise he must stay with the Northern team.

    But if the Northern fans keep getting nasty about it then the trickle will become a flood. Dropping GSTQ for an Ulster anthem to prove their respect for the NI Catholic players would be sign of friendship, and would win more kudos down South re: taking northern players.

  • andnowwhat

    @Mike the first

    The idea of poaching a player is like stealing someone’s wife. It can’t be done.

    Actually, I hate spideball and especially the Scottish and IFA variety. I only comment on the issue due to the sheer arrogance of someone telling another what they must do.

  • lamhdearg

    trapa
    hows it a going (read this out loud in an italain accent)
    tella le people howa le outa towna staddim hurt your firsta love (juventus).
    then show the 210 singing sectarian songs, then respond to Mike the first’s comment @ 8:57, also can i have a signed photo as your a hero of mine, (from your days at juve).

    fitzy
    winda ya neck in. big pat jennings n.i. player loved by all. catholic me thinks but dont care, irish nat dunno dont care, Ulster legend very much so.

  • Dec

    “The point re the FAI’s sectarian poaching has been made to a much wider audience eg Sky Sports News yesterday.FFS even Glendinning at the Guardian was giving us a fair hearing.”

    Given that the CAS ruled in favour of the FAI with regards to player eligibility in July 2010, I have to wonder what part of that judgement NI fans missed.

  • andnowwhat

    @Dec

    I call it projection. My personal definition is; “We think this way so themmuns must think the same way but the opposite”.

  • lamhdearg

    are any of the Eire supporters (or Northern Ireland haters) going to address the point made that some of the Eire fans at the game where singing “up the ra”.

  • between the bridges

    lamhderg… you already answered that..its all the proddyorangebigotbrits fault…

  • andnowwhat

    lamhdearg (profile) 25 May 2011 at 11:05 pm
    are any of the Eire supporters (or Northern Ireland haters) going to address the point made that some of the Eire fans at the game where singing “up the ra”.

    Why?

  • andnowwhat

    Do NI fans expect people to stand side by side with these people?

  • lamhdearg

    andnowwhat
    because most of then (i dont inclued you) complain bitterly about bigoted n.i. fans singing offensive songs, and i am giving them a chance not to be seen as hypocrites.

  • lamhdearg

    andnowwhat (profile)

    25 May 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Do NI fans expect people to stand side by side with these people?

    3 points, outside the ground, 2006,5years ago, and no it sould not be sung.

  • Mark

    When NI fans came to Dublin last months , a few of their fans were out of order outside the ground etc etc ……. thats the problem some people have. Utd fans taunt Liverpoll about Hillsborough etc , Liverpool fans slag Utd fans about Munich , Leeds and Istbanbul . Fans have afew drinks and the mob menality takes over . This takes place inside the ground , its when it spills out and locals get involved . There has never been any episodes of Rep of Irl fans rampaging thru towns and cities , however a small section of other fans give their country a bad name when they start getting violent and abusive outside the stadiums .

  • andnowwhat

    lamhdearg (profile) 25 May 2011 at 11:33 pm
    andnowwhat (profile)

    25 May 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Do NI fans expect people to stand side by side with these people?

    3 points, outside the ground, 2006,5years ago, and no it sould not be sung.

    Have they all changed since then?

    Not sure when this was filmed but…..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3ZgfdQeBjs

    There’s tons of these BTW

  • Mike the First

    andnowwhat

    You’re giving the impression of yourself as someone who simply wants to have a go at themmuns, given your rather one-sided focus.

  • lamhdearg

    andnowwhat
    your not sure when that was filmed?
    this is why i put the (i don’t include you).
    This was filmed in feb this year, i am not sure where you where, but in n.i. this video was spalttered all over utv, bbc, the press, slugger, nolan,ect ect ect, it was put across as proof that all n.i. fans are bigots, now last night some Eire fans sang pro ira songs in the ground where the n.i. fans could hear them, but there is no out cry, double standards yes, by the press, i and others on this post are giving those that slagged the n.i. fans off on slugger a chance not to be, one that speaks with forked tongue.

  • between the bridges

    http://youtu.be/i-ajduHx5hc

    gawa..good night and may your god go with you.

  • andnowwhat

    amhdearg (profile) 26 May 2011 at 12:13 am
    andnowwhat
    your not sure when that was filmed?
    this is why i put the (i don’t include you).
    This was filmed in feb this year, i am not sure where you where, but in n.i. this video was spalttered all over utv, bbc, the press, slugger, nolan,ect ect ect, it was put across as proof that all n.i. fans are bigots, now last night some Eire fans sang pro ira songs in the ground where the n.i. fans could hear them, but there is no out cry, double standards yes, by the press, i and others on this post are giving those that slagged the n.i. fans off on slugger a chance not to be, one that speaks with forked tongue.

    I’m never going to support the Celtic shirt wearing, opportunist scum that follow the ROI team. They’re hateful.

    Back on the issue. First things first, the ground has to be moved. The village is no place for it. I was attacked in it while out running and it is no exaggeration to say that the guys were trying to kill me (they were tooled up but it was partly my fault for being so habitual in my timing).

    The union flag and GSTQ has to go (please do not replace it with Danny Boy). We need a law like the one proposed in Scotland also.

    As for missing the bruhaha over the video, I may have been in France at the time. I spend a fair bit of time there

  • chewnicked

    ‘The boycott originally over money and travel restrictions seemed to morph into another issue – ‘poaching’ – as soon as the money issue was resolved.

    Yep, and on the basis that no one is reading here, I’ll say this has been our most successful campaign since we dumped the Maze’

    Well done O.Neill-you are so proud that NI fans lead the way in the ‘can’t be arsed supporting my team’ league. Keep at it and the figure will get even lower-especially when you factor in that some of your players support the Republic and all of your english lads would rather be at Wembley. Keep up the good work, my man!

  • chewnicked,

    I do believe you’ve missed the point.

  • between the bridges

    Any word on the campaign to highlight the balant sectarianism of the Ireland fans at the avia stadium?

  • George

    Lamhdearg,
    big pat jennings n.i. player loved by all. catholic me thinks but dont care, irish nat dunno dont care, Ulster legend very much so.

    Rewriting history a bit there, aren’t we? A quote from Jennings:

    “I was appalled at the remarks hurled at me. It’s a sufficient ordeal for a teenager to play for his country, so it’s a nasty shock to find my home crowd, not exactly rooting for me.”

  • Mike the First

    George

    That would have been in 1964. Lamhdearg is most likely talking about his own experience of Jennings’s later career, in the 1980s.

  • Mike the First

    By the way, is there still no word from Mark McGregor or Chris Donnelly on the behviour of some ROI fans at the match…?

  • stewart1

    Anyone explain why the ni fans were flying orange order and rir flags on Tuesday evening

  • between the bridges

    can anyone explain to me why the rep of Ireland fans were booing a visiting nations anthem, chanting up the ira and wearing Celtic tops…on Tuesday evening

  • Mike,

    Mr Donnelly generally responds to such comments as your s with a crisp “Whataboutery”. Or forgets to actually allow your comment to be published in the first place.

    BTB,

    I wouldn’t hold your breath, anyway on a connected note…. this ( http://tinyurl.com/4xnwozh) from the live “tweets” of a young NI supporter who now lives in Dublin and found himself in the home end on Tuesday night. I have asked him for permission to print them up (and as I said earlier whether you believe him or not will obviously depend on your own prejudices):

    “Are you rangers in disguise” followed by “warren feeney is an orange cunt”

    Oh wait things just picked up a cliftonville supporter just got in in time 2 abuse blayney for being a “hun bastard”

    Liam Boyce of NI warming up – south stand aviva says – “BOYCIE’S DA’S A PROVO

    Have had to move seats away from the derrycity/cliftonville/celtic clan and am now enjoying the game apart from the score

    Couple of points here:

    1. Firstly the bigots in question were from NI; that is not to say all ROI fans from NI are bigots (perish the thought that football supporters of a particular team can be stereotyped) but there is clearly an element who are. How can we start tackling that problem?

    2. Until this point, the only ROI fan (Sammy etc) on this thread who has seen fit to criticise the evident sectarianism (eg the booing of Davis) is also from the ROI. What does the silence of the NI-based ROI fans signify on this topic? Surely not your approval when almost all of you are not slow in coming forward (see Stewart 1 above for prime example) when sectarianism has been on evidence from NI fans? Do you believe there is no problem amongst an element of your support?

  • between the bridges

    oneill, cheers for that, nasty stuff that should be condemned by all regardless of your views. for the record I believe the majority of rep fans are decent fans out to support their team and have a bit of fun while doing it…no different from the owc fans.

    As for those who will not comment their silence says more than they ever could. Lmao

  • Mark McGregor

    Mike the First,

    If all your complaints had been over what was required to get a win and wind up the opposition – I’d have said ‘all fair in love and sport’ but given the fact only a few of your lads turned up to watch a bunch of poor kids getting hammered by a real international team it was OTT.

    I’d suggest in future the Republic treat OSC matches like facing an amateur team or the disabled. Certainly no need for windups or anything close to abuse when the opposition and their suport are less challenging than San Marino.

    “They’re not Brazil but they may be San Marino”

  • A lot of trouble could be saved if Ireland just stopped inviting Norn Iron to participate in Dublin.
    We saw the disgraceful behaviour of our wee country last time….and the IFA seem to want to dictate terms including who should play for Ireland.
    And our wee countrys supporters are angst ridden because of the abuse they suffered on Tuesday night.

    Perhaps just ot inviting them would be doing Norn Iron and their more sensitive supporters a massive favour.

  • MMG
    “They’re not Brazil but they may be San Marino”

    Ah cmon now I did “we’re not Andorra ….we’re Norn Iron” on Tuesday night …..but to be honest yours scans better. 😉

  • Dec

    oneill

    So a NI fan’s tweets should be accepted as fact now? Funny how the Youtube video at the Scotland game was just a couple (of dozen) bad apples but unsubstantiated tweets are as searing indictment of northern republic supporters. I notice you’ve not felt the need to comment about the entire NI contingent engaging in taunting, flag waving and an impromptu version of The Sash outside the stadium.

    btw I was dismayed by the booing of Davis, much as I was by the relentless hounding of Artur Boruc at Windsor park.

  • And in rolls FJH with a quick “F**k all dirty, orange Hun, proddy scum er… bigots”

    Well, that’s at least one answer to my question, thanks anyway.

  • Mark McGregor

    Can I just point out:

    A decent percentage of the north’s team was supporting the republic, the rest of them were setting us up for goals or even tapping them in directly.

    The very least our support could have done was sing the bloody Sash for them – they’d done most of our job!

  • Dec,

    Do you think he made them up? Is it not beyond the realms of possibility that some NI-based ROI fans could be bigots.Fair enough with the Davis point

    With regards the rest of your post, as Mr Donnelly would probably say with fingers in his ears…”Whatboutery, Whataboutery”. Difference being that I’ve criticised the NI support often enough on here.

  • Dec

    oneill

    I just tend to place a higher premium on what I see with my own eyes as opposed to someone else’s tweets. The worrying thing about the display outside the Aviva was that those fans, given the ticketing and travel arrangements, were supposed to the IFA’s chosen ones. Nice.

  • Republic of Connaught

    The scum at the Aviva wearing Celtic tops booing Steve Davis and singing IRA songs are the same type of trash ‘protesting’ against the Queen’s visit with violence. They flocked to a Northern Ireland – Republic of Ireland game like flies to shvt. They are society’s lowest and sectarian Old Firm matches or Northern Ireland related matches are their dream events. They wouldn’t even know the words to Amhran na Bhfiann.

    I see Steve Beacom in the BT lecturing Southern people about booing GSTQ and “old habits die hard.” Did wee Steve not notice the scum who was booing? Did he lecture the Scottish people about Scotland fans booing GSTQ it in Glasgow and Dublin against NI? He didn’t mention it but instead lectures the Irish people. Did he also not quite notice the NI fans booing Mary McAleese? He seems to have left out those facts too. Report the whole truth next time, Steve. Not your biased agenda.

    NI football people are very difficult to feel pity for because they play the victims all the time when the reality is they are their own worst enemies. Northern Catholic players are rejecting them and who do they blame? Everyone but themselves. They don’t really want a new anthem for the team or they would have changed it long ago. They clearly want it to be known NI’s team still belongs to the Prods and the Prods will play the anthem they want, whatever the Catholics think. But the Catholics should still be forced to play for them.

    And they’ll carry more Union Jacks than England, Scotland or Wales fans combined, all in their effort to be “inclusive” to their own northern Catholic players who aren’t British, of course.

  • stewart1

    How does the Orange Order flag fit into the IFA football for all strategy?

    http://bit.ly/kTNyfx

    Or god save the queen banners?

    http://bit.ly/kTNyfx

    Or british army banners

    http://bit.ly/jT7TVb

    All very inclusive !!!!!!

  • stewart1

    missed the all inclusive gstq banner

    http://bit.ly/leOHZz

  • O’Neill,

    And in rolls FJH with a quick “F**k all dirty, orange Hun, proddy scum er… bigots”

    Well, that’s at least one answer to my question, thanks anyway.

    Er ……you appear to be losing the run of yourself. You might use language like that and even have that thought pattern………I dont.

  • FJH

    The fact that:

    1. You saw no problem with a Rangers player being booed by your supporters merely because he was a Hun.
    2. You believe the answer to sectarian epithets offered up by your supporters is to ban NI fans

    .. tells me all I need to know about your “thought patterns”.

  • Dec,

    Ok, as I said whether you believe him or not depends on your own prejudices.

  • But O’Neill……I did actually see a logic in (Irish) supporters booing a Rangers player on the OTHER team.
    The supporters around you (you are much too sophisticated to do such a thing of course) see a logic ib booing a Celtic player when he is on “your” team.
    And didnt I hear the Celtic goalkeeper, a Polish goalkeeper get a hostile reception at Windsor Park….

    For some perverse reason you think that only the former is bad.
    If 200 of “your” supporters want to make a point by boycotting a game….fair enough.
    Why not simply boycott having Norn Iron there?
    A peculiar situation.

    You demand to be invited to a game……so that you can boycott the game.
    Talk sense man.

    I am so wounded by your branding of me as an anti-Protestant bigot that I have decided to support the team with the most Protestants in it when Wales play Norn Iron (thus abandoning the more honourable neutral stance I had intended).
    I dont of course know how many Protestants are on each team (any clue yerself that would help me?) but I am assuming its Wales.

    Cymru am Byth!!

  • But O’Neill……I did actually see a logic in (Irish) supporters booing a Rangers player on the OTHER team.

    Was that booing something you’re proud of as a ROI supporter?

    For some perverse reason you think that only the former is bad.

    Do I really? Now, you wouldn’t be indulging in a bit of stereotyping there? Most unlike you. As i pointed out earlier I think the whole concept of the Old Firm is an abomination and Scotland’s shame. I think the fact that some of our supporters have booed players (and yes, even some of our own) merely because they play for Celtic is attrocious.
    I really don’t understand the logic.

    If 200 of “your” supporters want to make a point by boycotting a game….fair enough.

    It was 200 who decided to turn up, probably 5,000 or so decided not to go because of the boycott. You haven’t done your research before deciding to share your thoughts with us now have you?

    You demand to be invited to a game……so that you can boycott the game.

    Who demanded to be invited? I don’t think we should have accepted the invitation for the joke of a tournament from the FAi in the first place.

    I dont of course know how many Protestants are on each team (any clue yerself that would help me?) but I am assuming its Wales.

    Why don’t you ask the FAI, they’ll have a much better idea than I do. after all, they are the specialists on the “community background” of Northern Irish born players.

  • Billy Pilgrim

    Mike the First

    “That would have been in 1964. Lamhdearg is most likely talking about his own experience of Jennings’s later career, in the 1980s.”

    It’s still a spectacularly bad example to choose. Jennings took dog’s abuse for years, if not decades. It is simply a matter of record (and remembered by many thousands who stood on the Windsor terraces in the 60s and 70s, and perhaps even into the 80s) that this was how arguably the greatest player ever to pull on a Northern Ireland jersey was treated by NI’s own supporters.

    As I said, a spectacularly poor example. (Or a spectacularly good example of what NI fans’ detractors are talking about.)

  • Billy Pilgrim

    oneill

    Just wondering, what is your opinion of the 200 fans who attended the game despite the boycott? Do you regard them as blacklegs?

  • Billy Pilgrim

    That question is open to all the GAWA brethren, btw.

  • between the bridges

    Any word on the campaign to highlight the blatant sectarianism of the Ireland fans at the avia stadium?

    Also I suggest that the anthem be changed in order to encourage a more welcoming atmosphere for the minority community…perhaps this little ditty…

    Marsz, marsz, Dabrowski,
    Z ziemi wloskiej do Polski,
    Za twoim przewodem
    Zlaczym sie z narodem.

  • Billy Pilgrim,

    No, it’s up to the individual to decide.

    I’m just not sure how many of them I’ll be seeing at our last EC match in Italy later on in the year, if I can delicately put it like that.

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Just a point of clarification regarding Scottish fans, are they made up of both Celtic and Rangers fans – if so they dont generally abuse themmuns in their own team do they?

    The Rangers fans dont take their union jacks and the Celtic fans dont take thier tricolurs to the matches – I dont think do they?

    Soccerball is a funny and very sad old game.

  • lamhdearg

    GAWA
    Anyone know it carling intend bringing the tournament to windsor, and when, at least then we will get a decent atmoshere.
    Big pat may have took some abuse in his first game ( and that was wrong) in all the games in which i stood in the kop from 76 on i heard nothing but praise for Our goalkepping god.
    plesae note my “that was wrong” now was it wrong for Eire fans to sing “up the ra” or not, a simple yes or no will do.

  • between the bridges

    sammy.. a few years ago i had drink or six and a chat with a few guys from the tartan army prior to a game.. they where of the opinion that very few old firm fans support scotland.

    Any word on the campaign to highlight the blatant sectarianism of the Ireland fans at the avia stadium?

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    between the bridges,

    ta for that.

    Tend to steer clear of soccerball becuase of the abusive malarkey – so I dont know about campaign but identify the feckers and stop them going- perhaps sentence them to community service where there is no TV for the next 25 games or so.

    Perhaps there should be a new cross border body which accepts themmuns from the otherside of the frontier where they get retrained in community relations – cumpulsory wearing of unionjack suits and slatuing the queen (or whatever you guys do) for Fenians and vice versa for Prods.

  • George

    Any word on the campaign to highlight the blatant sectarianism of the Ireland fans at the avia stadium?

    I’m confused, the ones who booed President McAleese or the other ones?

  • some gremlins in my previous post of course.

    But O’Neill wants invited to a tournament because not to invite him would be an infringement of his right to……er boycott the tournament.
    An insight into ourwee country thinking for which Im grateful.
    The notion that jesuits from the FAI are stalking the Norths training pitches poaching young players from a certain community background is laughable. Perhaps the clue is in if they turn up to training sessions wearing Republic tops.
    Of course a parent with a talented son or indeed daughter…might well want to just lift the phone to call Cumann Peile na hÉireann (FAI) ..(phone number and address on their website).

  • Mark

    Between the Bridges ,

    I’ve been to Amsterdam to see Celtic play Ajax and Rep of Ireland play Holland . Both games were within a yr of each other , maybe less . Some of the Irish fans were naughty ( Provo chants etc ) , alot more naughty than the Celtic fans . The Celtic tops that the Irish fans wore were much more provocative than the jerseys the Celtic fans wore ….and there was an edge at the Ireland Holland game ….if it hadn’t been for the red light , there could have been trouble .

    Each set of fans have a bad element , our worst are as bad as your worst ……

  • Billy Pilgrim

    oneill

    Many thanks for replying. Appreciate the response.

    I hope you won’t mind my saying so, but saying “it’s up to the individual to decide” may be very liberal an’ all, but it’s one half-arsed approach to a boycott.

    “I’m just not sure how many of them I’ll be seeing at our last EC match in Italy later on in the year, if I can delicately put it like that.”

    Not sure I follow. You mean they’re not “real” fans? (I don’t mean that in a pissy way.)

  • between the bridges

    Mark…I know that mate and im not really that bothered…just as you will remember there was a bit more of a righteous indignation a few months back…There are arseholes north south east west…throw in a bit of drink and a crowd…out come the party tunes…its not clever but its a hell of a lot better than shooting one another!

  • lamhdearg

    “and there was an edge at the Ireland Holland game”
    too much orange for the bhoys from the south.
    As few have taken the chance to condemn the Eire fans singing “up the ra” i will have to assume that most (on there) think its ok for them to to that.
    This post has worn thin for me, but i will keep it in mind the next time i read about the bigoted n.i. fans on slugger.

  • lamhdearg

    “and there was an edge at the Ireland Holland game”
    too much orange for the bhoys from the south.
    As few have taken the chance to condemn the Eire fans for singing “up the ra” i will have to assume that most (on there) think its ok for them to to that.
    This post has worn thin for me, but i will keep it in mind the next time i read about the bigoted n.i. fans on slugger.

  • Mark

    Between the Bridges ,

    I’ll drink , chant and sing to that ……. Oiche maith..

  • between the bridges

    lamhderg.. that post was so good you posted twice!! lol

    mark..Croi follain agus gob fliuch!

  • Mark

    Lamhdearg ,

    Go raibh maith agat and I wish your heart good health also…..lol

  • FJH

    But O’Neill wants invited to a tournament because not to invite him would be an infringement of his right to……er boycott the tournament.
    An insight into ourwee country thinking for which Im grateful

    I really think you’re on autopilot now… either that or your eyesight is in the same sorry state as your “thought patterns”

    Here , I’ve helped you out with special emphasis:

    Who demanded to be invited? I don’t think we should have accepted the invitation for the joke of a tournament from the FAi in the first place

  • Billy Pilgrim,

    I hope you won’t mind my saying so, but saying “it’s up to the individual to decide” may be very liberal an’ all, but it’s one half-arsed approach to a boycott.

    The main body representing the supporters, the AONISC advised its members not to attend (and I think that was near enough 100% successful) but if the IFA were still selling tickets to individuals then…

    We’re only football fans not a flashback to the 1970s National Union of Miners with a “One Out All Out” accompanied by flying pickets! The FAI/IFA had anticipated 5/6,000 travelling so the fact that it was 5% of the total actually turned up I think means it can be regarded as a success.

    Not sure I follow. You mean they’re not “real” fans? (I don’t mean that in a pissy way.)

    There was quite a few regulars there, one guy who hasn’t a match home or away since 1995. But any match on what they define as “enemy territory” will also attract an element that you’ll see only in places like Dublin, hence the higher number of more “British” or loyalist-orientated flags that you won’t be seeing in Talinn or Italy later on this year.

  • So no problem then.
    You dont want Norn Iron invited to play in Dublin.

    A result for everyone. No sectarian Norn Iron football fans. No Irish sectarian fans.
    Remove the cause of the problem ….Norn Iron.
    Conflict Resolution.
    It works for me.
    Thanks to this thread, I am thinking about football so much, I actually dreamt the score of the Champions League final.

  • Thanks to this thread, I am thinking about football so much, I actually dreamt the score of the Champions League final

    3-0 to Barca, unfortunately.

  • Mike the First

    Dec

    I’d suggest you give this thread from the ROI fans’ forum a read:

    http://www.ybig.ie/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29894&title=to-those-of-you-that-booed-gstq-the-ss-last-night

    (Worth noting the prevailing attitude of disgust at the idiot minority)

  • Mike the First

    Mark McGregor

    So, you’re too cowardly and hypocritical to comment on the bigoted behaviour of a minority section of the ROI support, despite having in the past been so keen to highlight the same from a minority section of the NI support.

    Quelle surprise.

    “Shoot and scoot”, eh?

  • Mike the First

    FJH

    “A result for everyone. No sectarian Norn Iron football fans. No Irish sectarian fans.
    Remove the cause of the problem ….Norn Iron.
    Conflict Resolution.
    It works for me.”

    Aye, if we just got rid of themmuns there would be no problem *rolls eyes”

  • Billy Pilgrim

    oneill

    “We’re only football fans not a flashback to the 1970s National Union of Miners with a “One Out All Out” accompanied by flying pickets!”

    Lol!

    “…But any match on what they define as “enemy territory” will also attract an element that you’ll see only in places like Dublin, hence the higher number of more “British” or loyalist-orientated flags that you won’t be seeing in Talinn or Italy later on this year.”

    Gotcha now.

    Thanks for humoring me with such a completely decent response. Best of luck on Tallinn.

  • O’Neill its this simple.
    Do you support or even recognise the “right” of folks born in the North to play for the Republic?
    Do you accept FIFAs verdict?

    Dont try and restrict the rights of people and then portray yourself as a victim. It is unbecoming.

    Yes thats right 3-0 to Barca. (three own goals but I cant tell you the scorers as it might reduce the odds).
    Im off to the bookies.

  • Billy P,

    I won’t be in Tallinn. She who controls the budget permits two away trips a year, one with Utd that I usually do alone and the other with NI which we do together and make more of a holiday. So, Italy it is with both myself and the credit-card company hoping it’s not Milan;)

    FJH,

    This from a letter being sent to the IFA would sum up my attitude perfectly:

    FIFA’s ruling has placed our country’s team at a disadvantage faced by no other, namely, every single player eligible to play for us can also be selected by the FAI. The FAI’s shameless exploitation of this rule to the detriment of Northern Ireland teams, and the public statements of its officials vowing to continue and expand this practice, makes cordial relations between the two associations impossible. Our objection is based on a matter of principle, that the selection of players who have played for Northern Ireland at every level – full international included – by the FAI is unethical, opportunistic and, by accident or design, sectarian, and must cease.

    While we object to the precedent that the FIFA ruling, and subsequent CAS judgement, have established, we must stress that we accept that some players from Northern Ireland will choose to represent the Republic of Ireland team. This is, of course, regrettable, but we absolutely and unequivocally respect their choice. To those players considering switching allegiance, however, we say this: please do not accept a call-up from the IFA unless it is your intention to play for Northern Ireland. Your actions let down fans who give you unstinting support, waste the scarce resources of the IFA and, worst of all, deny a cap to someone who genuinely wanted it and would have been proud to accept it. Such expedient behaviour in denying another player the chance to win a cap, the highest honour in international football, is utterly unethical and reflects poorly on those who do it.

  • BTW, Mr Powers is on the loss-leaders again-

    If Barcelona win this match in normal time, Paddy Power will refund all losing 1st/Last Goalscorer, Correct Score and Scorecast singles on the match

    Don’t abuse his generosity…

  • ItwasSammyMcNally

    Irish (and Cletic) football fan doth spake.

  • lamhdearg

    just poped back in for a nosey, thanks sammy i need cheering up, fav player “the boy in the green an white shirt” classic.