Christmas Quiz (1)

Ok, adopting the Welsh approach toward Education (No league tables or competition more a communal quest for collective knowledge) here’s the Christmas Quiz. See if between all you can get all questions correct, without using Wiki / google (or even books), by next Monday?

1. Dr William Price, the 19th century Welsh Chartist / Philospher / Physician etc etc. famously cremated his first born boy. What was the child’s name?
2. Which was the only part of the present day USA to be occupied by Japan in World War 2?
3. If:
a) the relative economic utility of a Craig Bellamy shirt to any other shirt to a Cardiff City fan is £15 and:
b) Craig’s signing has increased the number of City fans by 50% from a base of 20,000 and:
c) The propensity of shirt purchase amongst City fans is 43% and:
d) Cardiff are paying Bellamy £30,000 a week.
e) The variable cost of Shirt production is £15 per unit and the non-Bellamy selling price is £40 per shirt.
How many weeks wages will the marginal increase in Shirt revenue pay for?
4. What’s the unique (I think) defining facet of the Irish Benevolent Society of London, Ontario?
5. What does “Adeiladwyd” mean and who, famously, said the word “pierced my linguistic heart”?
6. St Columb’s has two, Scotland has two, Wales three. What?
7. Name the five largest (population) cities in the USA starting with B.
8. There have been three Irish Golf Major winners. Name them.
9. How many: a) Chains, b) Lengths, are there in a mile?
10. What links Arthur Edward Bruce O’Neill and Willie Redmond?
11. Who looks younger – George Osborne or Johnny Sexton?
12. There have been 52 Welsh Rugby captains since 1970. Name them.

  • By various accidents of association, I can do bits of four of these.

    [1] Price has a statue in the Hole with the Mint (Llantrisant); and his dead child was modestly named Jesus Christ (probably in Welsh).

    [5] I reckon that Adeiladwyd is cognate with the Latin aedificare [to build].

    Probably [2] is one of the Aleutians that Sarah Palin overlooks towards Russia. Why I am linking it with Kermit topping himself (Roosevelt, not the frog)?

    And [10] were both MPs and WW1 casualties. O’Neill (bought it at ” Sillybeak”)was the later Terence’s grand-dad. Redmond got his at “Whitesheet” on the Messines Ridge. There are 22 shields around the Commons chamber for each dead MP.

  • Dewi

    Good start – yeh “Iesu Grist” for number 1….

  • Third try to get this one to take.

    The morning chant at Mrs Self’s “top class” preparing for “Eleven Plus”:

    Twelve inches,one foot;
    Three feet, one yard;
    Twenty-two yards, one chain;
    Ten chains, one furlong;
    Eight furlongs, one mile..

    Now, let’s see:
    10 * 8 =80.

    So where did the rod, pole or perch fit in?

  • joeCanuck

    The chain actually was a chain. I owned one for measuring distances across lumpy landscapes when surveying lines for an electricity company. Might still be in my basement somewhere. 66 links, each one foot long.

  • Wabbits

    5. Nobel Laureats

    7. Boston (Mass), Baltimore (Maryland). Birmingham (Alabama), Bakersfeld (California), Buffalo (New York)

    8. Fred Daly, Padraig Harrington, Graham McDowell

  • joeCanuck

    3. The bus driver’s name is joe. Oops, wrong question.

    Dewi, your quizzes are too hard. Isn’t the last question really 52 questions in disguise?

  • John Ó Néill

    (2) Pretty sure is Guam.
    (3) Insufficient data (is this not a variation on a question you asked before Dewi)?
    (6) Nobel laureates.
    (7) Boston, Baltimore, Buffalo, Baton Rouge (plus one more…Birmingham?)
    (8) McDowell, Harrington, Daly

  • [2] I’m a small expert here (self-mockery intended), because I’ve bought tee-shirts in the US clearly marked “Made in the Mariana Islands”, which I’ve assumed to be Guam.

    Guam was indeed occupied. It is not incorporated into the US. The Chamorros have US citizenship; but do not have full voting rights. They elect a member to Congress who has only observer status (she is or was the memorably, if unfortunately, named Madeleine Bordallo).

    If Guam is the answer here, and the Marshall Islands were also occupied in WW2, there must be some quibble about relative status vis-à-vis the US.

    About the only other things I “know” about Guam are that the tourism trade is largely Japanese, the UIS military are the other bulwark of the local economy, and they have an imported snake problem (obviously St Patrick once visited; but he has been subsequently over-ruled).

    I’m watching Dewi closely on this one; because I’m reckoning it’s an Aleutian island or two (which are now part of Alaska). Ironically, wasn’t it mainly Canadians who recovered the more distant Aleutians for the US (which is why the operation goes largely unremarked in US accounts)? Didn’t the campaign involve an outfit going by the unofficial name of “Castle’s Cut-throats”? Oh, the trivia one picks up from cheap literature.

  • Wabbits @ 11:51 pm:

    I don’t get your [5] … unless it’s really [6]. Ah, yes!

    Wouldn’t have got Bakersfield, CA. It certainly seems right: the place certainly sprawls a heck of a long way. Bad air quality, worse politics (very conservative Republican), but good and influential country music (Buck Owens and Merle Haggard come to mind): do those three things go together?

  • Wabbits

    Apologies. Yes indeed number 6 are the Laureats. Got Bakersfield because I’ve been there and it is sprawling and seems a likely one.

    As for number 2 I think it mght be a wee island north of Hawaii that was a radio station during WW2 but I can’t remember the name (Not Midway).

  • John Ó Néill

    Malcolm – my knowledge of number 2 is largely gleaned from John Wayne films – I take your point about the Aleutian islands, most of the other Pacific Islands that are US territories like Wake were also occupied and most are unincorporated etc. To be honest I thought the islands that were occupied were Russian, I didn’t think they were part of Alaska.

  • Wabbits

    That’s the one I was thinking of – Wake Island.

  • Dewi

    What we got right so far:
    1) Iesu Grist Price
    2) Aleutian islands (well a couple of them). A bit of a mean question as Alaska wasn’t a state at the time.
    Worth a read and Castner’s Cutthroats
    5) “Adeiladwyd” does mean built – but who said “pierced my linguistic heart”
    6) Yep – Nobel Prize winners.
    7) Boston, Baltimore, Birmingham, Bakersfeld, Buffalo.
    8) Fred Daly, Padraig Harrington, Graham McDowell
    9) 80 chains – How Many lengths?
    10) MPs and WW1 casualties.

    Still a fair way to go…can’t believe you don’t know a single Welsh captain between you!!!!

  • Wabbits @ 8:25 am:

    For a long while, until I spotted it, I had snagged the wrong item on one of those extended drop-down national identity lists. As a consequence, for one particular site I was recorded as living on a “US overseas territory”.

    That’s the roundabout way I came to find that Wake Island has two distinguishing features: you need to be military to be allowed in; and it’s a day ahead of the US proper. But it’s not distinctly different in status from other islands and territories, and not an integral part of the present-day USA.

    As I say, I’ve got my eye on Dewi (as keenly as the 1850s Editor of the Skibbereen Eagle) for this one, lest he’s pulling a fast one.

    Dewi‘s stuff, like all mind-games, has a habit of waking me in the small hours to review half-ideas. I think I’ve now got a handle on [5]. What suggested it is the “linguistic heart” thing: how many experts in linguistics am I likely to know? If I’m right, it’s a good’un; so not to spoil the fun for others (and to avoid resorting to forbidden books and so forth), I reckon another clue is in Elvish.

    But “lengths in a mile”? I keep musing on sports and such. Swimming pools come in 25 and 50 metre “lengths”? Horse races and the Boat Race are measured in “lengths”? In cricket, a bowler aims for a “length”? Aren’t there “lengths” in archery? There used to be “length(s)men” minding the railways and roads: was that a set distance?

  • Rory Carr

    Here goes (‘?’ after an answer indicates a guess):

    1. Already answered. But I didn’t know.

    2. Guam.

    3. 2.15 weeks.

    4. It is an Orange Lodge. (?)

    5. Independence. (?)

    6. Bishoprics. (?)

    7.Already answered – but it required too much head-scratching to attempt in any case.

    8.McDowell. Harrington. Fred Daly

    9. (a) 22 chains (b) Pass

    10. I go along with M Redfellow on this, but it is only a guess. I do know that Redmond died in action in WWI and presumably a Unionist O’Neill might well have been expected to “do his duty”.

    11.George Osborne is in fact Johnny Sexton’s little nephew (but not many people know that.)

    12. My abysmal ignorance here might lead me to stray in to Bernard Manning territory so I think I’ll pass.

  • Dewi @ 9:30 am:

    Castner‘s Cut-throats”: well, I was nearly right. Must look ’em up. Still think the reason this little campaign gets left out of the Pacific War (HBO to note) is because of the Canadian involvement: after all, Alan Ladd and the Duke won the War as a tag team, didn’t they?

    This one also reminded me there was some dodgy business over the admission of Alaska and Hawaii as the 49th and 50th States. I think, writ very small, it involved a re-run of the cavortings of the 1840s and 1850s over slave and free states.

    I lost interest in Bellamy when Norwich sold him.

    In those delightful Eisenhower days, liberal Republicans were for civil rights, and the southern Democrats were certainly not. Inverting present party politics, Alaska was believed likely to be a Democrat state and Hawaii less so. Therefore the two were linked by the Dems to keep the balance. Eisenhower himself kept stalling over the issue.

    Another bit of historical trivia to review.

  • slappymcgroundout

    (2) Attu and Kiska. Though there are problems in how one defines the US, which explains why the US is either 3rd or 4th largest nation in the world in land size (alternating with China depending on one’s view of just what constitutes the US).

    Wake Island is a US posession, which is the lowest status possible. There are other US possessions as well (Baker Island, Howland Island, Jarvis Island, Johnston Island, Midway Island, Palmyra Atoll, and Kingman Reef, to name just the more important ones).

    There are also US territories, to wit, American Samoa, Guam, and the US Virgin Islands, which are the next step up from possessions.

    Above US territories are the two commonwealths of the US, Puerto Rico and the Northern Mariana Islands.

    Some samples from the various and sundry constitutions:

    We the people of the Northern Mariana Islands, grateful to Almighty God for our freedom, ordain and establish this Constitution as the embodiment of our traditions and hopes for our Commonwealth in political union with the United States of America.
    We, the people of Puerto Rico, in order to organize ourselves politically on a fully democratic basis, to promote the general welfare, and to secure for ourselves and our posterity the complete enjoyment of human rights, placing our trust in Almighty God, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the commonwealth which, in the exercise of our natural rights, we now create within our union with the United States of America.
    Whereas the Congress of the United States, in its Act of February 20, 1929, provided that until the Congress shall provide for the Government of the islands of American Samoa, all civil, judicial, and military powers shall be vested in such person or persons and exercised in such manner as the President of the United States shall direct; and

    Whereas by Executive Order No. 10264 the President of the United States directed that the Secretary of the Interior should take such action as may be necessary and appropriate and in harmony with applicable law, for the administration of civil government in American Samoa; and

    Whereas it is appropriate that, in the process of developing self-government, the people of American Samoa should enjoy certain rights and responsibilities inherent in the representative form of government; and

    Whereas it is desirable that these rights and responsibilities be clearly set forth in a Constitution, and the adoption of a Constitution is in harmony with applicable law; and

    Whereas the Constitution adopted in 1960 provided for a revision thereof:

    Now, therefore, this revised Constitution, having been ratified and approved by the Secretary of the Interior and having been approved by a Constitutional Convention of the people of American Samoa and a majority of the voters of American Samoa voting at the 1966 election, is established to further advance government of the people, by the people, and for the people of American Samoa.

    Lastly, Bordallo is a powerful family on Guam. Michael was and may still be a judge of the Superior Court of Guam. For how the thing works re Guam, from People v. Guerrero:

    Because Congress continues to exercise plenary power over the territories and does not share that same balance of power with the states, the RFRA is still applicable to Guam. Under Article 1 Section 8 cl. 17 and Article IV Section 3 cl. 2 of the Constitution, Guam and other U.S. territories are subject to Congress’ plenary power. Because ultimately, the federal government possesses full and complete legislative authority over Guam, Guam is thus considered a federal instrumentality.

    So, as I said, this is a bit tricky. Attu and Kiska were occupied, Wake was occupied, the Northern Mariana Islands were occupied, and Guam was occupied.

    Almost forgot, but Jarvis Island and Howland Island are designated National Wildlife Refuge(s) and I really can’t see how we can make that designation unless they are part and parcel of the US. Palmyra Atoll is also a National Wildlife Refuge. Once was part of the Kingdom of Hawaii, having been annexed to the Kingdom in 1862 by King Kamehameha IV. When Hawaii was annexed by the US, Palmyra was included, however, when Hawaii became a State, Palmyra was excluded.

    Truly lastly, but given events surrounding Midway Island during that war, you’ll have to ask the Japanese whether any of their submariners might have stepped out onto and so occupied the French Frigate Shoals as well:

    Actually, I lied, as we don’t need to ask:

    During the early months of the U.S.-Japanese conflict in World War II, Japanese seaplanes occasionally used French Frigate Shoals as a rendezvous point for refuelling by submarine.

    It’s status now:

    In 2000, the atoll became part of the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands Coral Reef Ecosystem Reserve.

  • John Ó Néill

    I see Rory has supplied an answer to this – I’d have gone for the same (working out included as proof!).
    (3) At face value, 50% of the 20,000 is 10,000, with 43% buying shirts that would be 4,300 shirts. It is possible to interpret 3(a) as meaning that this should be taken as £15 per unit profit (although an external examiner would have to lie down in a darkened room after reading such a question). This implies an additional shirt-based, Craig Bellamy-inspired, profit of £64,500 – which more or less takes you to two weeks plus the small change of 15% of his third working week (whatever that is for a footballer).
    If we are interpreting 3(a) wrong, now is the time to correct us…

  • Dewi

    Thanks for that Slappy!
    Malcolm: “There used to be “length(s)men” minding the railways and roads: was that a set distance?”
    John ..mmmm I think I might have messed this up….let me have a think….
    Rory – well spotted on number 11….

  • Dewi

    Expanded question 2 – many apologies….

  • Cynic2

    4 Its crest is the crest of the Royal Irish Constabulary and its motto was later stolen by the UDA

  • John Ó Néill

    Cheers Dewi. I’ll let someone else take a pop at the answer.

  • Dewi

    Good effort Cynic but not quite – the answer to this is quite interesting actually…..

  • Dewi

    Hmmmm – forget the length one as well (it’s 20 yards but extremely Railway specific…)

  • Dewi

    “What suggested it is the “linguistic heart” thing: how many experts in linguistics am I likely to know? If I’m right, it’s a good’un; so not to spoil the fun for others (and to avoid resorting to forbidden books and so forth), I reckon another clue is in Elvish.”

    Good clue….

  • slappymcgroundout


    Re the CNMI (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands) and their status, see also Sec. 2(d) here:

    If Ronnie says they’re part of the American family, who am I to argue? And surely their homestead comes in with them.

    Lastly, and by the way, on a semi-related side note, all can recall the treaty negotiations and the contention over the point of, within the empire versus without the empire but in free association. Maybe if Ronnie had been overlord, some could have had their free association, since after all, Ronnie was “gratified” that some chose free assocation (see Sec. 3(b) of the Proclamation).

    Almost forgot, but re the discussion on that other thread re insular Americans who don’t have passports, you’ll have to forgive and/or indulge some. If you are or you’ve been in the US, you may have seen the weather reports on the tele. In the contintental US, for the most part, the only map shown is the continental US and never mind Hawaii and Alaska. Haven’t watched the local news when I’ve been in Florida, so I don’t know if they include Puerto Rico in their weather map. No one, not even here in Hawaii, includes the CNMI, Guam and American Samoa on the weather map. So blame the weather people, not your average American, as maybe some would have some more curiosity if they were made aware that Ronnie welcomes the CNMI into the American family via their inclusion on the nightly weather map. As the late Bobby Sands would have said had he occasion to ponder the matter: we all have our role to play and the weather people are failing us mightily.

  • Dewi

    Astonished no one’s guessed number 4….

  • Dewi @ 12:43 pm:

    OK, since you’ve therefore dissed Rory Carr (above) and others, my best shot (and extrapolating from how I suspect Dewi thinks) goes like this:
    ¶ Canadians, on the whole, are pretty herbivorous and decent types;
    ¶ London, Ontario, is a nice kind of place. It has a good university, and is reasonably civilised;
    ¶ it was at one stage intended to be the capital of Upper Canada (hence the grand name imitation);
    ¶ I severely doubt that sectarianism is rife in London, Ontario.

    So the Irish Benevolent Society of London, Ontario, is either specifically non-sectarian, or it has somehow overcome the distinction between “Scotch-Irish” (i.e. the original emigrants from Ulster, mainly dissenters) and “Irish”
    (i.e. the later 19th-century emigrants, mainly Catholic).

    Sliding off-topic somewhat (did I ever?):

    My thinking here is informed by a bit of semi-useless knowledge and misinformed by enormous tracts of ignorance.

    I’ve read, liked, and cited here on Slugger a couple of times Noel Ignatiev’s study of How the Irish Became White, which shows how the Catholic Irish in the US overcame prejudices. There must be (but I know not of) similar studies about Canadian society. Any advice thereon?

    Presumably after 1776, when the supply of “Scotch-Irish” and Highland Scots emigration moved away from the revolting colonies, it must have gone somewhere. I know that the Highland Clearances involved a mass emigration to Newfoundland. I’ve also got family research showing Ontario as a natural route into the US. Australia and NZ would, in my mind, come a bit later as a natural destination. So, what was happening in places like Ontario in the back end of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries?

  • Dewi

    “So the Irish Benevolent Society of London, Ontario, is either specifically non-sectarian”

    Yep, specifically it rotates the Presidency between Protestants and Catholics annually.

    So, what was happening in places like Ontario in the back end of the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries?”

    Mass immigration 1820-60 from Ireland to Canada as would be expected but the most Irish place, Newfoundland, was settled way pre-famine, immigration peaked around 1780 primarily from around Waterford…
    I’m doing this from memory honestly but think the Ulster Scots Ontario settlement would have been driven primarily by loyalists moving from the US post War of Independence – shades of 1922….?