UVF link has killed off the PUP…

That’s what Alex Kane thinks, and it has been an open secret within party circles that the link with a paramilitary which much huge limit on the size of the PUP’s vote. The toleration of armed militias for political purposes is nothing new in Irish society. But for Kane the murder of Bobby Moffett was just one Rubicon too far:

An armed and clearly active terrorist organisation killed a man: and killed him very brutally, very deliberately and very publicly.

It’s a killing that would have been discussed and then noddedthrough by a group of men in the backroom of a pub or safe house. And some of those men would, at the same time, have been briefng journalists, the NIO and PUP offcials that the UVF was making ‘signifcant progress’ towards community politics and civilianisation.

It’s a killing that comes on the back of a growing list of IMC reports – 24 so far – indicating that the UVF was taking an incredibly long time to sort itself out, decommission and stand down. Indeed, from 2004 to 2008 the UVF had been ‘specifed’ by the secretary of state and was only de-specifed, on a recommendation from the IMC, in July 2008.

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  • Interesting

    The PUP also have members involved with Platform for Change which seems strange.

  • HeinzGuderian

    This is news ???

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    I think Alex Kane is absolutely right.
    That the murder was ordered in a smokey back room by men who were briefing journalists.
    But shouldnt journalists have been asking questions rather than merely being briefed.
    Did the softly softly approach of journalists to men/women with whom they were on first name terms actually contribute to the death of Mr Moffatt (and earlier victims).
    Were the UVF brought to a sense of invincibility by the cosy relationship with a press corps anxious to get close to men/women with a whiff of cordite about them.
    And of course the softly softly approach of the IMC.

  • joeCanuck


    They were anything but independent. They were never anything other than a joint government mouthpiece and have only never told us anything other than what their masters told them to say. IMHO, of course..

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    The UVF or the Journalists?

  • joeCanuck

    The IMC, of course.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Mr Canuck….you must surely be wrong.
    The IMC is a fine body of men headed by John Alderdice whose record of public service and integrity is well known.

    Mr Alderdice was leader of the Alliance Party who selflessly took on the role of Speaker of the Assembly when nobody else wanted to do it…..except his party colleague Seamus Close.
    To become a neutral Speaker, Alderdice resigned from Alliance.
    In the House of Lords, Alderdice selflessly takes on the role of Co-Ordinating Liberal Democrat peers and sits on the Government benches. (His former colleague who actually got the East Belfast Commons seats represents her constituents on the Opposition benches).
    The very notion that Alderdice would be part of a shabby deal to act as a government mouthpiece while heading an independent quango….is absurd.

  • joeCanuck

    It’s the way you tell them.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    I suppose so. Actually I really was baffled by your post at 1.42pm and didnt actually get that you meant the IMC until I was half way thru replying (my brain obviously fused but my excuse is that the IMC reference was an afterthought on my part).
    As to Alderdice and IMC……basically if you get a reputation of being an early riser …you can lie in bed all day. Alderdice had a good early career. I take nothing away from that by saying that his later career disappoints me.

  • joeCanuck

    Yes, I didn’t mean that the commissioners were active participants in an attempt to deceive people but that there were patsies set up by the Governments. I mean, where do they get their information?