“Bartender, politician or comic…?”

Harsh?  Probably…

  • Neil

    Politician drinks shocker! Only difference being Brian can hit the pub and have a blast of an evening while politicians the world over need 400 security people and 6 months planning. Bit unproffessional mind.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Heineken dont do Tea-shops but if they did…

    Probably the best Tea-Shop in the wo-RRRR-ld.

  • slug

    I thought it was going to be about Gerry Adams, who actually was a bar tender and actually is a comic (when he claims not to have been in the IRA in between times).

  • pippakin

    Jay Leno has got more than enough erring US politicians to choose from, what’s he doing crossing the Atlantic for his victim? and why does he never, as far as I know, complain about the cosmetic surgery US politicians use. If Pelosis skin is stretched any tighter her eyes will be on the back of her head.

  • “Aw, God, it’s nice to know we’re not the only country with drunken morons”. Just as well the BBC or ITV didn’t come out with that one.

  • Greenflag

    A much funnier presentation of politicians made to an Australian audience by one our own .
    He’ll not be popular in Russia or Italy 😉

  • pippakin, the missing apostrophe makes it look like a medical condition.

    Here is Pelosi on YouTube:

  • Greenflag

    ‘ her eyes will be on the back of her head.’

    No that would be the Italian PM Berlusconi according to Dylan Moran below -making it necessary to stand on a chair to look down on his face to watch him lie ;).

  • Greenflag

    Leno could have had a field day with this religious fraudster but alas he’s black and American and ‘God ‘ and the banks are on his side 🙁


    New Birth is a must-stop for politicians seeking office, and it hosted the funeral for Coretta Scott King in 2006.

    Bishop Eddie Long isn’t the first megachurch leader to come under public scrutiny.

    Megachurch Scandals

    Long is one of the most influential black preachers in the country and abroad. His sermons are televised in 170 countries, and he routinely meets with celebrities and political leaders (both Democrats and Republicans).

    Long’s church and his personal life are manifestations of the “prosperity Gospel” he preaches. Also called “name it and claim it,” this style of preaching states that God does not want you to be poor — indeed, Long preaches that Jesus was not poor — and that riches are a sign of God’s blessing.

    Long himself drives a $350,000 Bentley, bought a $1.1 million home in 2005 and favors gold necklaces and Rolex watches. When the Atlanta Journal-Constitution asked him about the $3 million he received from the church and its charities between 1997 and 2000, Long was defiant.

    “We’re not just a church; we’re an international corporation,” he said. “We’re not just a bumbling bunch of preachers who can’t talk and all we’re doing is baptizing babies. I deal with the White House. I deal with Tony Blair. I deal with presidents around the world. I pastor a multimillion-dollar congregation.”

    Remember y’all Jesus wants you to be rich and have plenty of bling and Bentley.

    The ‘meek ‘ will not as per the New Testament inherit the Earth but will be walked on by the ‘saved’ i.e the rich !

  • Greenflag

    addendum to above ,

    ‘Long is facing allegations that he sexually abused four men who received his mentorship as a “spiritual daddy.” Three of the men were older than 18, but one said he was 17 at the time of the alleged abuse. They allege that Long encouraged them to join the church’s elite youth group, so he could groom them for sex; in exchange, they allege, Long gave them money, new cars, housing and took them on exotic trips’

    God and money inextricably intertwined . Gimme the cash and I’ll see you get past the pearly gates (

    And they still fall for the shite 🙁

  • pippakin


    Pelosi’s (happy now) condition is well known overwhelming vanity and ambition.

    I enjoyed the link. It took me back a few years. Clinton losing it during the press conference was both embarassing and hilarious, but then he always did have a sense of humour.

    Yeltsin, as so many other politicians, proves it is possible to be worse than Cowen. Yeltsin a bit the worse for wear was a common occurance.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Such a shame Brian wasnt around to meet Boris for his Shannon stopover. One not able to go up the steps to the plane and the other not able to come down them.

  • pippakin


    Politicians, all the same, everywhere and poor old Brian C gets it in the neck. As far as I know British and Irish politicians have yet to take to cosmetic surgery or Botox…A matter of time I suppose.

  • White Horse

    When all the above posters sign their names openly and perhaps put them on a ballot sheet, we’ll take their objections to Brian Cowen with a bit of seriousness. Otherwise the joke’s on them.

  • I love the way the audience cheers when he said “politician” as if they all know who he is. You can be sure there’s a floor manager holding a sign saying “cheer now” behind the camera at that point.

    To answer your heading’s question, many’s the time I have called him a moron, but for Leno to do it is indeed harsh.

  • Biffo is a colourful character, an exponent of the swearing of the green. The Dáil microphones picked him up saying to Tánaiste Mary Coughlan: “We need to get a handle on this, will you ring those f*****s”, in May 2008.

  • man, a lot of people getting their knickers in a twist here – didn’t realise Cowan’s habit helped so many livelihoods.

  • Big Maggie

    Oops, talk about glasshouse dwellers and stones…

    When Jay Leno learns to control his gluttony and ceases to resemble a badly made bratwurst then, and only then, has he any right to joke about Brian Cowen’s appearance.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    All goodd clean fun – fat boy Brian can take it I’m sure – keeping the National stereotype going is good for tourism and not something the Plain People of Ireland will be unduly worried about.

    A far worse episode was the FG TD giving the Gardai shit when he was told he shouldnt drive his car when unfit to walk and the Garda then being told by Enda Kenny to forget what he said.

  • It has been suggested that the Taoiseach missed out on a bribe for advertising a brand of baby food…..

    ….because they called the scandal “Garglegate” instead of “Cowangate”

    They get worse

  • Greenflag

    A case of East is East and West is West and ne’er the twain shall meet 😉

    Well not until Tricky Dicky Nixon and buddy Kissinger opened up China to provide a huge new export market for American manufactured goods in the mid 70’s -well that was the theory anyway .

  • Greenflag


    I have a vague memory of an uncle stacking empty red cowangate tins into a stack one upon the other and rolling a ball to make them all fall down – This crashing down set off much merriment in the infant greenflag who had yet to evolve to bipedal status or so I’m told .

    They do get worse 😉

  • Greenflag

    I believe the NYC or some other major USA city’s Museum of Anthropology have requested Leno’s jaw -after his passing -of course for comparison purposes with their current collection of hominoid jaws from Neanderthalensis and the hominoidal species Boisei 😉

  • wild turkey


    dead on. and his “church” pays zero taxes because it’s ,um a church?

    link to a recent christopher hitchens article on “bishop” long below.

    as they say in vegas, read em and weep


  • Alias

    Well, there you go… the leader of the Irish state referred to on national US television as a ‘drunken moron’ and the only offence is that is true.

    Some commenters here remarked how Cowen’s alcoholism coming into the public domain in this way would be used in the international media to reinforce the stereotype of the drunken, irresponsible Irish at a time when the collective sanity and intelligence of the Irish is in question, and there it is on one of the most popular shows in the US (which just happens to be an important FDI source for Ireland).

    Others thought is all just a bit of harmless fun, and sure doesn’t everyone like a drink…? Perhaps, but only one man is the head of the Irish government and, like it or not, the impression that he makes on the international stage is the impression that the nation makes.

    He doesn’t have the decency to resign, and the Irish themselves are too dumb to think that it is a resigning matter.

  • Pippakin

    Yeltsin was a drunken fool. Churchill was, probably, an alcoholic. Clinton had his own little foibles.

    Cowen did not sound drunk and even if he had been drunk the night before that does not make him an alcoholic or a traitor to Ireland.

    Cowen made a mistake, take a look at the economy, he has made worse.

  • Greenflag


    ‘an exponent of the swearing of the green. ‘

    You deserve 10 out of 10 for that one lol 🙂

  • Cowen made a mistake, take a look at the economy, he has made worse

    Absolutely. Perhaps Angela Merkel will tell him

    “Nay. tis custom like yours I can have any day”

  • Greenflag

    ‘the Irish themselves are too dumb to think that it is a resigning matter.’

    Is that so . So we’re not as clever as the Americans who’s President Bush has the blood of tens of thousands if not more on his hands ? or the Israeli President who had no compunction about ordering the ‘phosphorous ‘ bombing of thousands of women and children in Gaza ?

    If it’s all the same to you – you can continue to take pride in you sober suited killers -we’ll just have to put up with our Mr Cowen and his foibles !

  • Pippakin

    Seymour Major

    I suppose she could but only think how easy it is to find a German with, let’s say, a few skeletons in the closet.

    Ireland owes no one an apology because one or more of our politicians occasionally has a drink.

  • Matt The Rasher

    This was a case of Twitter making a story out of a non story.

    If it wasn’t public knowledge that FF were having a “think in”/social event people would have listened to another boring innocuous morning interview and thought nothing of it other than the man was hoarse and nasally congested.

    Cowen’s enemies were tweeting the night before about him “wining and dining”. They were waiting to make a story out of a non-story and they succeeded.

    As to Leno he’s just a comedian. I take no offence. Just a bit of fun.

  • you’ll find a much more striking example closer to home greenflag.

    When FM Robbo was getting assassinated in the local rags for having a loose wife good old ex-terrorist Adams was getting away with helping pedo’s get into youth clubs in his own little fiefdom.

    But the difference between the Republic with it’s drinking, laughing PM and the US with it’s former president is there’s a fair argument to suggest the majority of the population supported his actions at the time.

  • Alias

    The laughable defences of Cowen’s behaviour remind me of the Monty Python ‘Black Knight’ sketch in terms of the delusion that underpins them. There is a complete failure to grasp that while drunks may be charming to other drunks in private, they are far from charming as leaders of a government.

    Meanwhile, in the real world, Cowen’s behaviour solicits the predictable response that it plays into: the drunken, stupid Irish who think it is great craic altogether to make utter fools of themselves in public because, sure, doesn’t everybody love paddy?

    No Irish Taoiseach has ever been referred to as a ‘drunken moron’ on national US television before and were a new low not reached by Cowen wherein he behaved like a drunken moron then the reference would have caused outrage. Now, of course, the Irish Taoiseach can be fairly described as a drunken moron and the Irish nation by extension and there is not a word of protest that the Irish embassy can make because the reference is true.

    Alcoholics are self-destructive, and, unfortunately, the self-destructive also destroy all around them – including the economy and what is left of Ireland’s image (however bogus) as a serious, sober place to do business.

    We’re back to being an international laughing stock again…

  • Cynic

    “Bartender, politician or comic…?”

    …. thank God this thread is about Cowan. I thought you were talking about Gerry again

  • Greenflag

    st etienne,

    Not sure whether your reference is to Mr Cowan or the Ex president ?
    I would think most people in Ireland will not be keen on the Taoiseach putting himself in a position where he could be ‘ridiculed’ . But it’s not a life or death issue .

    As for the majority of americans supporting the Iraqi invasion and the subsequent trillion dollars poured into the ground in that region ? At the risk of Godwinning the majority of Germans also supported Hitler while he was winning .

    As far as Mrs Robbo best to let sleeping dogs lie and allow the good woman to recover . Shure isn’t she only human and if a political career was lost so what ? – at least no lives were lost which is more than be said for others!

  • Greenflag


    ‘Alcoholics are self-destructive, and, unfortunately, the self-destructive also destroy all around them ‘

    A true comment in general but making an ‘eejit’ of oneself on one occasion is hardly grounds for being ‘branded’ an alcoholic.

    As a nation we do ‘drink’ too much . I understand that only the Czechs in Europe imbibe more per capita . The Irish as well as other north western europeans Scots , English , etc and scandinavians ( Norwegians and Swedes etc) probably Russians have a greater genetic ‘intolerance’ for alcohol than southern europeans such as Italians and Greeks and other peoples living around the Meditteranean .

    The reasons for that are beyond the scope of this tread but they include factors such as lack of historical exposure to the substance in millenia past .

    ‘including the economy ‘

    I don’t know the exact amount the government gets from the sale of alcohol products but in present circumstances I would think it’s not a source they would want to see dry up ? That could drive some more of them to drink 😉

  • Greenflag

    Thanks for that link . Christopher Hitchens point is well made . Stick a collar around your neck and call yourself a Reverend or a Bishop and you don’t have to pay taxes . It’s a wonder there are not more of these rackets 🙁

    God always needs your cash no matter your ethnicity. The Pope needs his mobile -Queenie needs her palaces , and Bishop Long his eh ‘boys’ bentleys and bling.

    Wonder what Jesus would say to that lot ? Just as well he’ll not be coming back eh ?

  • Matt The Rasher

    You aint seen nothing yet!!