‘Booby Trap’ Bomb Under Soldier’s Car Found This Morning

An “undercar booby trap bomb” has been discovered under the car of a soldier in Bangor, County Down this morning.

The bomb fell out from underneath the car this morning and was discovered. 20 – 30 homes in the area were subsequently evacuated.

This follows the bomb at the Strand Road Police Station in Derry yesterday, blamed on republican splinter group Óglaigh na hÉireann.

In May, the IMC said that the threat from dissident republican militants remained high, and the events of the last few days appear to prove them right.

  • Begs the question where are the Dissidents getting their intelligence from and secondly why is the Police intelligence #### ?????

  • Obelisk

    Isn’t Dissident Intelligence an oxymoron?

  • Greenflag

    Indeed . And this so called Oglaigh na hEireann is a misnomer . More properly and accurately they should be referred to as Amadana na hEireann 🙁

    Lets hope that arrests are made soon and these idiots are put behind bars before people are killed . I’m sure the new Justice Minister will have the support of 99.99999% of the people of Northern Ireland and 100% of the people of the Republic in whatever action he needs to take to have these imbeciles put away .:(

  • Donald Fraser

    Why can’t these wankers just Fuck. Off. (Peter Weir’s condemnation dripping with insinuated bigotry incidentally)

  • Oracle

    Greenflag,

    Your maths are slightly askew, that would mean that there are only 16 people in Northern Ireland who give support these organisations.

    And none in the Republic at all, lol greenflag you’re a cert for a job in Fox-News

  • socaire

    Surely you meant ‘amadáin na hÉireann’?

  • Another dangerous sign that the Neanderthal’s are increasing their activities.

  • socaire

    You can increase the number of your activities but how do you increase your activities?

  • Greenflag

    Slightly askew is fine . As I’m not a retard I’d be eh unqualified for Fox Goebbels News apart altogether from being ideologically incompatible with the brain dead morons 😉

  • Greenflag

    Amadain would be the plural nominative . I was using the plural vocative as in addressing the gobshites 🙂

  • Greenflag

    Newsflash – Our eh cousins the Neanderthals have recently been rehabilitated . It now appears that some 3 to 4% of most Europeans and Middle Easterners and Asians DNA have Neanderthal origins . The Africans appear to have missed out .

    In referring to the the above mentioned gobshite would be bombers perhaps earlier hominid references would be more appropriate . Australopithecus Boisei could be a contender 🙁

  • socaire!

    You are at it again, less the asterisks this time I note. By all means if it makes you feel better and you need the Is dotted and the Ts crossed (as usual), feel free to change my comment to ‘number of activities’. Im sure there is a brain dead shinner somewhere desperate for the addition.

  • socaire

    Nah! Doesn’t exist in that form, but good try.

  • socaire

    Brain dead shinners hang on your every easily verified truism.

  • socaire!

    Ive some experience of what brain dead shinners hang on to and truism doesnt even come close..

  • socaire

    Hell hath no fury ………

  • The little gobshites are definitely Neanderthal and the fact that we all have some Neanderthal in us proves it! The difference is most of us overrule our baser instincts on a daily, if not hourly, basis.

  • socaire!

    Not when the apology is still outstanding.

  • Greenflag

    Declension
    First declension
    Bare forms:
    Case Singular Plural
    Nominative amadán amadáin
    Vocative amadáin amadána
    Genitive amadáin amadán
    Dative amadán amadáin

  • Elizabeth Nelson

    In an attempt to bring the discussion back to the topic (and away from what I can only assume is some kind of inside joke/antagonism between Pippakin and socaire, and discussions of Irish I don’t understand)…

    But this is just one in a series of incidents that brings up huge issues in the wider debate around policing and paramilitary activity.

    Has anyone else thought about the events of the last two days in light of the fact that the controversial stop and search measures of Section 44 have been changed/modified/suspended by the Home Secretary?

    In the days immediately following this many politicians (and others) alleged that this would seriously hamper the fight against groups like Oglaigh na hEireann, CIRA, RIRA…

    Or does it? This article by the Newsletter (http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/PSNI-39still-has-power-to.6410280.jp) – which I only recently discovered – carries quotes by a ‘PSNI spokesperson’ who says that the Home Secretary’s guidance for section 44 (basically saying you now need ‘reasonable suspicion’ to stop someone – whatever that means) doesn’t apply to Northern Ireland.

    We can go on and on and round and round in circles about these armed groups and their actions, speaking rhetoric on either side, etc, but I think belfastjj brought up an interesting point about intelligence… thoughts?

  • Elizabeth Nelson

    You are right this subject deserves serious attention.

    Im not in favour of stop and search but I have to say with regard to the north I think it may be justified.

    It probably won’t work but perhaps the knowledge that support for the dissidents is minimal might.

  • quality

    It really doesn’t take a huge amount of intelligence or organisation to follow someone from Palace Barracks 5 miles to Bangor. But that its 2010 and soldiers and policemen still have to be vigilant in this sense is quite sad.

  • Elizabeth Nelson

    See, what I’m afraid of is that these recent incidents are going to increase the calls for ‘exceptional’ policing measures, perhaps like Section 44 – when actually, when you look at the amount of people stopped and searched compared to the people subsequently arrested (and even further, those actually charged), it’s such a tiny percentage.

    I think there needs to be a discussion about how to approach this effectively, without severely impinging on civil liberties. It seems to me that exceptional or extraordinary policing measures in the past only served to polarize people even more, which is counterproductive.

  • quality

    Exactly, you need to keep the vast majority of the public onside. Stop and search techniques will just work to alienate.

  • Greenflag

    While the authorities have to be somewhat careful in their policing measures the truth is we are now in an entirely different situation than pre 1998 . The people of ALL Ireland North and South ) have voted by massive majorities to uphold the present agreement GFA .

    The so called dissidents have minimal support . If they were arrested and hanged tomorrow they would get the same level of public support that the IRA got when Dev had some of them hanged during WW2 .

    There is no justifiable reason for violence against the current Assembly or the NI institutions or symbols . Opposition to the NI State can be pursued by peaceful political means .

    How many votes would these ‘dissidents ‘ get if they put up candidates in either Assembly or Dail elections ?

    The people of all Ireland are tired of this stupid and self defeating shitology 🙁 It’s mindless , moronic and utterly purposeless 🙁

  • Elizabeth Nelson

    Greenflag (and others)

    Can I put forward the hypothesis that some of these groups resort to violence because no one is willing to engage them in democratic dialogue and take their views and opinions seriously?

    This is in no way meant to condone or justify what the armed groups are doing right now, and should not be read as such. However, there are republican groups out there that are ‘dissenting’ – in that they don’t agree with some of the terms of the GFA. This doesn’t mean that they inherently advocate violence as well. While they may not have as much support (publicly) as SF, don’t their voices too matter? By calling such opinions “mindless, moronic and utterly purposeless,” are we not contributing to the process of marginalizing them?

    Again, I want to reiterate that this doesn’t mean that I think it’s ok to use violence if you feel you are marginalized – I don’t. I just think maybe the discussion should include the responsibility the rest of us have in a democratic society to ensure that the views and opinions of everyone are being listened to, whether or not we agree with them.

  • Mr Crowley

    The fact that there still are British soldiers in Ireland in 2010 is considerabley more depressing.

  • quality

    Where else would they go? A lot of them were born here.

  • Elizabeth Nelson

    Im not sure the dissident groups want to talk, they appear to be going backward to a time when the ‘romantic’ notion was the Brits would be defeated – militarily, never mind it never made sense! Some seem to believe a UI is only worthwhile if it can be achieved violently.

  • al

    BBC – “In a statement, the Oglaigh na hEireann also said it had attempted to bomb the police barracks on the previous day.

    It said an attack on Monday had not gone ahead after two taxi drivers “refused to cooperate with instructions”.”

    What exactly does that add? Two taxi drivers were held at gunpoint but would not cooperate? If so why did they not report the incidents?

    I just don’t understand what propaganda they’re trying to push here?

  • Elizabeth Nelson

    Well my point is that there are other ‘dissenting’ groups that don’t support violence, but don’t agree with the SF/SDLP line – maybe we should be talking to them.

  • Elizabeth Nelson

    I hope you are right, but I have to say I have little expectation that the peaceful dissenters will enter into talks with any of the authorised bodies.

  • Greenflag

    Elizabeth N,

    What are they saying that needs listening to ? I don’t particularly like some of the terms of the GFA either , but in the circumstances it was the only possible deal that could get NI back onto the political road .

    Unfortunately there are always those who won’t ever listen to reason . I have no problem with the dissidents opposing SF or the SDLP or the various Unionist parties in political terms but when they use violence against the expressed voted for wishes of the Irish people North and South in two referendums then they have placed themselves outside the pale .

    It’s not 1969 nor 1956 nor 1922. These are misguided young people probably led by a small group of older diehards who won’t be happy until they plunge the province into another 30 years of stupid slaughter . It’s not going to happen imo . Those days are over !

  • vanhelsing

    just where was the insinuated bigotry btw…maybe you meant insinuated pragmatism, clearly a soldier in south armagh would feel more vunerable to this scum than one in Bangor….

  • vanhelsing

    Last time I looked it was still part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. They have as much right to live and work here as anyone else – or do you wish to deny them such. No sec 2 & 3 so you’ll just have to wait for a majority:) how does 2116 sound for you…

  • Cause for concern

    I noticed that the so called ‘republican gang’ ONH claimed this attack today in the Irish News, along with the 200lb bomb in Derry.

    Simply from a operational perspective I have to begrudgingly admit thats an impressive reach right there – From Derry to Bangor – Thats very, very worrying not least for any of us old enough to have lived through the last phase of the conflict and those forward thinking enough to hope that peace would have taken hold.

    Put into context did the PIRA ever even manage to pull off operations such as this one against the British army in Bangor and that one last year just up the road from police head quarters?

    Is it just me or is there is an increasing tempo by these republican militants. Im thinking Palace Barracks, the policing board headquarters attack and the numerous come on operations along the border. Not to mention the undercar device that mangled Peadar in January and when I think of it wasnt there one the year previous up near Lambeg in Lisburn claimed by this same republican outfit?

    I’m thinking like Alban there ought be a strong public call for a frank and detailed assessment of the actual threat posed by such potentially lethal ‘so called unsupported, micro groups’ and a comprehensive analysis as to what it all means in this era of a shared future here as opposed to the shallow empty ritual condemnation and vilification and the obvious ‘head in the sand’ wishful thinking that they will just simply go away.

    As such militant activities become increasingly common and increasingly successful does this mean the conflict is in fact not over … and the last 14+ years have merely been a pause in the centuries old disfunctional dynamic as the grey haired men of the British state, unionism, loyalism, republicanism and nationalism have attempted to facilitate a shared albeit a shared but distinctly separate future together.

  • Mr Crowley

    A minority holds a veto over the combined wishes of the people of Britain and Ireland whose views are considered less valid. Some democracy!

  • Hi Greenflag,

    Can I pick you up on a few points that I’ve just read and can’t seem to understand??

    Your 1:36pm
    While the authorities have to be somewhat careful in their policing measures the truth is we are now in an entirely different situation than pre 1998 .

    me:
    Why should they be entirely different, what is the difference between the PIRA and the other IRA’s?

    You said:
    Unfortunately there are always those who won’t ever listen to reason . I have no problem with the dissidents opposing SF or the SDLP or the various Unionist parties in political terms but when they use violence against the expressed voted for wishes of the Irish people North and South in two referendums then they have placed themselves outside the pale .

    It’s not 1969 nor 1956 nor 1922. These are misguided young people probably led by a small group of older diehards who won’t be happy until they plunge the province into another 30 years of stupid slaughter . It’s not going to happen imo . Those days are over !

    I said:

    So what is the difference between the Repulican, Dissident Repulican/Unionist (do you not mean Loyalist paramilitary or are you just tying to be provocative)? for the years 1960/70/80 or 90 ???

    Robo

    robo