A picture worth a thousand words

As the Belfast marathon made its way through the streets of West Belfast it negotiated a white line picket of hundreds protesting over conditions faced by Republican prisoners  in British gaols.

At Sevastapol Street there was this striking shot of a PSNI armoured jeep acting barrier between the iconic image of Bobby Sands, at a closed SF HQ, and those that would take to streets on behalf of current Republican prisoners.


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  • John

    The notable thing is not the mural or the SF office closed or the PSNI. Its the fact that only a handful of people are involved in the protest out of an ‘Ireland’ of 8 million people.

  • Eire32

    “A picture worth a thousand words”

    Certainly is.

  • al

    Great for guests to our country. Im sure Urga Negewo was wondering why there are POWs in N Ireland when there’s no war.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    What a wonderful picture.
    Indeed Mr Sands was probably looking down with affection on his beloved West Belfast as the marathon runners went past.
    His prophetic words that revenge is the laughter of our children are recalled as the fun filled event took place.
    One hopes that the many runners who visted Belfast today enjoyed the pantomime of a “white line protest” and exchanged pleasantries with the village idiots as they went by.
    And those guys in the PSNI armoured jeep (armoured against dissident republican attacks) can look up with pride that they are indeed fulfilling the prophecy that “everyone……republican and otherwise has a part to play”.

  • another test

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    I see Frankie Boyle isnt on Mock The Week any more.
    Obviously too busy holding a banner at the Belfast Marathon.

  • When you think of some of the prisons these fragile flowers could be in…

  • old school

    So Republicans should give up armed struggle AND peaceful protests???

  • Mrazik

    Maybe they should take up running instead. Much better for the soul.

  • old school

    You can’t do much running when your locked in a cell 23 hours a day.

  • Mrazik

    They can’t do armed struggle either.

  • Mark McGregor

    What surprises me is in a 24hr period ‘dissenting’ republicans have managed to put themselves parading through the city centre, with scare stories that came to nothing and reinvent the white line picket in a manner SF could have only dreamt about.

    A very good agit-prop weekend for the dissenters and they can now get numbers turning out regular.

  • old school

    And you can?

  • Peaceful protests are excellent, a reminder to the Brits and if need be SF, of what this is all about.

    The problem with protesting about prison conditions is that, that time has been and gone. We all now know just how bad prison conditions can be, and I for one am not impressed about complaints about Irish or Brit prisons. There are probably vacancies in Abhu Ghraib…

  • Mrazik

    I prefer the running, thanks all the same.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Well it was a Bank Holiday and good weather.so obviously the white line protestors were not at work today.
    No different to any other day I suppose.
    I was at B & Q. (15% off if you spent over £50).the protestors missed a bargain.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    Mark,

    it must be quite embarassinbg for the dissers trying to run an insurgency campaign with so little to complain about but personally I would finish them off completly by killing them with kindness by granting their prisoners political status and perhaps use them as a tourist attraction along with the Orange Order so that people could have a window into the past.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    In fairness they bring a lot of the Psychological Torture on themselves.
    I mean a hunger strike in the prison canteen.
    Sometimes I think their hearts just arent in it anymore.

  • jim

    the laughter of our children.bet liams children arnt laughing.aye gerrys brother liam

  • old school

    There was no hunger strike in the canteen,that was in Magilligan,and was successful.
    There was a token siege in the canteen in Maghaberry a week later.
    If you don’t know the issues, stick to your oneliners.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    But I prefer the image of a hunger strike in a canteen.
    It seems to sum them up perfectly.

  • Mrazik

    What, was the custard lumpy?

  • lamhdearg

    Mark, “numbers”?.

  • old school

    But there wasn’t one.
    Your observational humour is neither observational nor humorous.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    no …..the ice cream was cold.

  • old school

    Aping the loyalists now are we?

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    The real psychological torture is surely not having a proper cause – I mean how disturbing must that be – and perhaps even worse than not having a cause is everybody including the poeple you are supposed to liberating knowing that you dont have a cause and in fact pointing that out to you when you stand for election.

    I blame the PSNI myself for actually making things worse as they just cant be provoked into shooting the people who are shooting them. Have they no consideration? Do the PSNI not realise that trying to run a campaign without a cause and also without a martyr is all but impossible.

  • michaelhenry

    people stood against the armed british army for years, now the few have noticed that the armed british army is no longer on the streets, so out they now come and protest with just the P.S.N.I IN attendance, the dissidents argue that nothing has changed, have they no shame.

  • old school

    Sammy, if you don’t know the ideological reasons that drive separatist Republicans, I suggest you post in a forum that does not involve Irish politics.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    The PSNI just arent playing fair at all.
    They just cant be arsed.
    Ultimately the one thing the Dissidents crave is to be taken seriously. A bit like the BNP…….in fact very like the BNP.
    I suspect the mentality of BNP, Eirigi, TUV etc is exactly the same.
    Ridicule is their just dessert……and lumpy custard of course.

  • Mrazik

    I didn’t know they were involved in Irish “politics”?

  • old school

    You’ll have to explain that one.

  • Itwas SammyMcNally whatdoneit

    old school,

    we just had a war over that and we are now having the peace at least that is what the vast majority of people in Ireland(North and South) voter for – missed that little uncomfortable detail did we?

    However if they are still mad keen on an insurgency can I suggest the dissers have a look around for another country to visit their insurgency on (we really, really dont want one in Ireland thanks all the same) and I would suggest that after a short period elsewhere they would be pining for the ‘psychological torture’ of the PSNI.

    When the prizes are given out at the interantional insurgency awards surely our dissers will easily win the biggest whingers award – or can you point out any other dissers on the planet that might give them a run for their money.

  • Michaelhenry

    people always stood against the armed british army, now that the armed british army is of our streets the few want to come out and protest with just the P.S.N.I in attendance, protest for those inside whos armed groups never killed one armed british soldier, do they not know shame.

  • Mrazik

    Where can I vote for one of these dissidents (if I was so mental)?

  • lamhdearg

    Old school, ? You are at a crossroads with nine other people (handcuffed together),Eight of the people say they want to go right, Two want to go left, Would you agree Right it is.

  • There is a place in the prison hierarchy specially reserved for child abusers and their associates, its called the bottom and all the protests in the world will not help the person found guilty. Lumpy custard would be the least of his problems…

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    You can vote TUV in 10 constituencies.
    Basically the same sour faced malcontents.

  • old school

    Christ, the Cavalry are out in force today.
    We Republicans are constantly told “there are other peaceful ways to campaign for your demands.”
    Well, this was a peaceful protest albeit with some pro State gunmen lurking in the background.
    I notice most of those gloating about prison conditions, and mocking the protesters are PSF orientated.
    Such is the sea change in their “ideology” that when they look at the photo above, they attack the peaceful protestors and support those in the armoured car.
    They have become what they once hated.

  • michaelhenry

    the dissidents have ran from elections, i can not say that they have ran from war because thy have not took part in a war.

  • michaelhenry

    do you still think everyone is against YOU.

  • Mrazik

    Stop being so paranoid and self-indulgent.

  • Michaelhenry

    THERE are no armed brits in that landrover.

  • Surely you can see from the amount of vitriol how successful the protest was? As for the significance of the picture, I would say classic. The louder the moan, the greater the pain. Who said peaceful protest hurts no one. Read the pain.

  • Michaelhenry

    the dissidents ran from elections, do they run from war, all i know is that they have never took part in a war.

  • lamhdearg

    You are at a crossroads with nine other people (handcuffed together),Eight of the people say they want to go right, Two want to go left, Would you agree Right it is. I am not happy with the way this country is going, but before i shout no i ask myself that Q.

  • old school

    Self indulgent? Didn’t mention myself, only twisted New Shinners.

  • old school

    An editorial in the Andersonstown News called them “Armed defenders of the Crown” only last month.
    You support them.

  • Michaelhenry

    new members of the P.S.N.I do not take the oath, so what have they got to do with the crown.

  • medillen

    Old school, back at your key board conflict I see. No matter what Sinn Fein does to protect the rights of prisoners, opponents of the peace process like you will claim it is not enough yet condemn more young people to jail. You did not answer my question last time I posed it, do you support the Real IRA and if so can we hear from you a rationale for their actions?

  • Mark McGregor

    Between 287 and 466.

  • old school

    Um, Sinn Fein is part of the Government, they have done nothing for Republican prisoners.
    They, as part of the Establishment have called on people to inform on their neighbours.
    They have told Americans that there are no political prisoners in Ireland.
    They have called Republican prisoners “criminals gangs” and “traitors”
    On a street level they have threatened publicans who allow fundraisers to be held for prisoners, they’ve barred fundraisers collecting for prisoners from bars, in some cases abducted them.
    They’ve defaced and painted over murals and posters calling for political status.
    And they’ve supported the Status Quo all along in Stormont.

  • old school

    As for your last question, I believe in the Proclamation that your party pays lip service to.
    People have a right to resist occupation. I don’t support any particular group.
    Did you/do you support PIRA?

  • Michaelhenry

    there is a picture there of a senior provo looking down on the dissidents, the dissidents have exsisted for over 20 years now, they are not the new kids on the block you know, yet there is no paintings of there members, why not, the only answer is that they have never fought a war.

  • old school

    You don’t speak for the dead Michael, so keep your inane ramblings to yourself.
    Go ask the Sands family what they think of Sinn Fein.

  • If it is true that people who are now senior members of SF lied to the hunger strikers, then they should take the greatest care of that picture and keep quiet about everything else to do with it.

  • lamhdearg

    Left or right.

  • Michaelhenry

    why do they speak for the dead.

  • Michaelhenry

    the hunker strikers got the 5 demands, how were they lied to, the only one who lied was thatcher who said the p.o.ws would not get the demands.

  • Michaelhenry

    hunger

  • halfer

    Substantial turnout indeed Mark. But it is only on the single issue of prisoners at the moment.

    If a broader dialogue between the groups can take place, I think it will only be a matter of time before some semblance of a credible political/electoral alternative is on the cards.

  • fitzjameshorse1745

    Do you speak for the Dead old school?
    Do you attend special sceances?

  • halfer

    lamh dearg

    If your granny had balls?

  • Anonin

    That they have.

  • Brian MacAodh

    Are the conditions really that bad? (I bet they wouldn’t want to be in general population in a California State prison)

    But I guess that was the point of the protest….so someone fill me in..

    What “torture” are they experiencing? Are they being forced to decipher Michaelhenrys posts?

  • New School

    If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime.

  • rig

    mm

  • michaelhenry

    deciper, can they read, because it seems that not only have they not read the good friday agreement, they have not read the green book.

  • Michaelhenry

    decipher, can those poor souls read, it looks like not only have they not read the good friday agreement, they forgot to read the little green book, these poor souls want to be hardline against the IRISH nation, they want people to think of them has hard, but they will not fight the fight.

  • TheHorse

    At the end of the day most of these prisoners are on remand they are not sentanced therefore not convicted of any offence yet. I am not saying I agree with their politics but from a human rights point of view they should be treated as people awaiting trial. They should be given the same basic rights if not more than a sentenced prisoner gets ie daily exercise, right to education, the freedom to associate with other inmates, the right not to be personally abused, as thats what strip searching is.

  • argosjohn

    The protesters are to be applauded. At least they believe in something and not just cut price deals in B&Q or in brothels. The Provo gravy train has left a lot of people behind. Useful idiots perhaps. But the Provo hard men are not all PhDs either.

  • halfer

    You haven’t fought a war either michael. And according to Adams, neither has he.

    Whats your point?

  • james

    Those placard waving scum in eirigi are a joke.Only a handful of people in Republican west Belfast took part on that shambolic protest calling for holiday camp conditions in prison for narco terrorists masquerading as republicans.If these Stalinists ever took power anyone who owns their own house,a BMW or Mercedes and who doesnt speak Gaelic fluently would be sent to the gulag for re-education.These fools are deluded and the whole organisation is a personality cult for sour faced Leeson.

  • Clyde

    The reason there is so little people is the rest of them see the reality and don’t need tp protest. The rest of the people don’t feel the same way that is why they are not protesting here. Why have a protest if there is nothing to protest about.