17 out of 18

Several blogs got here first, but 17 or the 18 joint UUP and Conservative candidates have been announced today.

Mike Nesbitt – Strangford
Daphne Trimble – Lagan Valley
Sandra Overend – Mid Ulster
Fred Cobain – North Belfast
Ross Hussey – West Tyrone
Bill Manwaring – West Belfast
Trevor Ringland – East Belfast
Harry Hamilton – Upper Bann
Danny Kennedy – Newry and Armagh
John McAllister – South Down
Rodney McCune – East Antrim.
Lesley McAuley – East Londonderry.
Paula Bradshaw – South Belfast
David Harding – Foyle
Irwin Armstrong – North Antrim.
Ian Parsley – North Down
Tom Elliott – Fermanagh and South Tyrone

  • Paul

    whats the story on south antrim

  • joeCanuck

    And anyone want to share the percentages of UUPers versus Cons?

  • joeCanuck

    No need; found it in the link. 2 Conservatives.

  • Paul

    a good list of candidates

  • joeCanuck

    Regarding S.A., Bobballs’ blog has a link as possibly having something to do with it. You can follow his link to a B.T. article.

    Interestingly, when I tried to post the link here I got a message saying action denied because of a blacklisted item.
    That’s a first. Mick must have gotten a new secret censorship machine over in the USA.

  • Harry J

    the DUP have nothign to worry about from this lot, a load of has beens and never wheres.

  • Harry J

    Cant wait to read Deirdre Nelsons statement on how the Cunfs treated her.

  • dwatch

    Looks like for the first time in 105 years the UUP will be returning no MP’s to Westminster.

  • interested

    Its a joke of a line up.

  • FitzjamesHorse

    I hate to mention it but…..any actual er Catholics?

  • DeargDoom

    South Antrim’s not decided – I wonder if they’ll pick Adrian Watson after all. That’d be complete electoral suicide.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/feb/18/tory-ulster-unionist-homophobia

  • FitzjamesHorse:

    what? “Catholics”?
    You are forgetting “The purity of essence”. Ulster Prod Tories are not interested in tokenism for that is the slippery slope which leads to the vile and Bolshevist creed of “decent chaps not being in charge”. silly you.

  • Mark McGregor

    Funny enough I’ve thought for a while that South Antrim could produce a South Belfast type shock if the TUV run along with the DUP & UUP.

  • Sammy Wilson is my man, as long as he keeps the price of Bombay gin down. Here´s my campaign video for him:
    http://bavarian-orange.blogspot.com/2010/03/sammy-who-loved-me.html

  • “Several blogs got here first”

    Yes. Slugger, cutting edge?

  • Driftwood

    10.I hate to mention it but…..any actual er Catholics?
    Dunno FJH but some Atheists are there.
    Why should religion matter?
    Nick Clegg?

    How many non catholics are in the SF/SDLP ranks?

    South Antrim will be interesting, as long as the High Court injunction holds.
    Lagan Valley is a shoo in likewise.

  • “13.Funny enough I’ve thought for a while that South Antrim could produce a South Belfast type shock if the TUV run along with the DUP & UUP.”

    Sth Antrim is intriguing…

  • Mark McGregor

    oneill,

    Upper Bann more so. Will be a very interesting election in many areas.

  • alan56

    Harry J
    Deidre may have much to say. Look forward to it.
    Is she back in the DUP camp?

  • Mark

    Watch Sth Antrim.

  • Michaelhenry

    i looked hard at this list of u.u.p and the british party there connected to canidates,and when i stoped laughing that apart from strangford the rest have no hope,good news about no unionist unity canidates.

  • numer 20:
    watch my friggin sammy wilson video more like.
    http://bavarian-orange.blogspot.com/2010/03/sammy-who-loved-me.html

  • someone

    Glad to see these finally announced! Looks like a good slate – plenty of fresh faces rather than usual UUP useless old duffers. Roll on polling day a good few of these will be returned to parliament helping Conservatives form the next government! That said if UUP get South Antrim that must embarass the Conservatives given both what he has said and that they only negotiated one winnable seat in the first 17! Get another fresh face in there.

  • Harry J

    How many non catholics are in the SF/SDLP ranks?

    looks like it will be catholic free then. Wasnt this one of the big things of the UUP/Tory tie up. that it would reach out to unionist catholics

    its a joke

  • Harry J

    who will be leader after reg is forced to resign on may 7th?

  • FitzjamesHorse

    Driftwood,
    Indeed why should religion matter to the UUP when they have allegedly been making attempts to broaden their support and membership to reflect the broader Norn Iron communities.
    I suspect you know as well as I do that over the last 40 years there has been progressive equality legislation, ……er rather coincidently opposed by ……er the UUP.
    You will also know that govt statistics are based on PERCEPTIONS rather than the actual theology of a person.
    You probably also know that this is based on the “primary education” of a person.
    Thus a Catholic or Protestant is determined for these statistical purposes on that basis.
    And its also probable that you know that a primary education in England falls into the category of “Other”.
    Certainly Parsley English educated would fall into “Other”. Of course I hold high hopes that Parsley would convert to Catholicism or Islamism or Judaism if there was a political advantage to be had. He appears to be not overly committed to anything except Ian Parsley.

    Of course you may not know all this…….but Id be surprised if you didnt.

  • someone

    Hahaha HarryJ – your party propaganda really is funny sometimes

  • Harry J

    Reg has already lost 100% of his MPs before the election has even been called!! Because the UUP have no one to replace him withe means hes safe…for the moment

  • Garza

    Yeah but Harry J your such a DUP drone it wouldnt matter if Ghandi or Jesus was put forward as a U&C candidate you would still mock it. Votes talk, lets do this!

  • cynic47

    alan56

    Is Deirdre back in the DUP camp?
    Was going to write “never,never,never”. With the Assembly possibilities I decided to write “maybe, maybe, maybe”. Might need a major grovel but that’s a small price to have to pay to get back on the fast track.

  • Garza

    Cynic, didn’t Deirdre nod in agreement when the DUP was compared with the BNP? I’m confused why she would go back.

  • Driftwood – it takes a certain kind of panache to ask why should religion matter, followed very quickly by, how many non catholics in the SF/SDLP ranks?

    It matters or it doesn’t. Seems it does to you.

  • lamhdearg

    Has anyone within the non online republican cause, Got the balls to stand against gerry adams, If not why not.

  • Michaelhenry

    they have no faith,never mind no balls, lamhdearg

  • abc123

    With a couple of exceptions, the list is very disappointing. How could it take the UUP so long to come up with such a list? Sir Reg should consider his future … We need a real C&U party fighting for the Union. Sir Reg obviously isn’t up to the job.

  • iluvni

    Is someone going to keep a note of the number of candidates who promise in their election bumph to publish their expenses …
    …just like DUPs Diane Dodds made great promises to do in the EU elections last year…and never did.

  • Harry J

    Is someone going to keep a note of the number of candidates who promise in their election bumph to publish their expenses .,,,,,,,,,

    and wheres jim nicholsons expenses for the last 5 years? whys he hiding them?

  • Panic, these ones like it up em.

    Why the delay ?

    I suppose the Orange Order does not like to be rushed when vetting its Unionist political parties candidates.

    All this and running the Irish Football Association as well.

    What a busy little outfit the Orange Order is !

  • someone

    Just for reference as I am sure someone will bring it up – how many are OO? How many OO in winnables?

  • YelloSmurf

    Someone, I don’t think that there are any OO in winnables because I don’t think that any of them are winnable (except perhaps Strangofrd, which may possibly be winnable but it’s not likely).

  • Paul

    The dinasaurs TUV will get hammered because all the contests will be DUP with UCUNF challenging. Apart from Dinasaur allister who will be also beaten comfortably in NA by IPJ.

  • Paul

    I spoke to several people who voted for allister in NA in the euros who are swinging back to the DUP. and the feed back from them is they know lots of people intend doing the same not good news for the TUV or allister.

  • Michaelhenry

    you think paul these people are telling you porkies, telling you what you want to hear.

  • Paul

    ou think paul these people are telling you porkies, telling you what you want to hear.
    Posted by Michaelhenry on Mar 21, 2010 @ 01:40 PM

    They may well be telling me porkies I have no idea.As for telling me what I want to hear I am not concerned with what people tell me. I am merely pointing out what people have said then posting it here it might be porkies i have no idea I have no reason to not believe what they tell me.We will find out on may 6th when the result in NA is announced whether there is any truth that people who voted allister in the euros in NA have swung back to the DUP.After all it was allister and the TUV who spouted they topped the poll in NA.

  • LabourNIman

    I could have topped the poll in NA if Diane Dodds was the other choice..

  • Michaelhenry

    diane dodds of d.u.p fame came third in the euro election did she not.

  • Paul

    #

    I could have topped the poll in NA if Diane Dodds was the other choice..
    Posted by LabourNIman on Mar 21, 2010 @ 01:53

    I think Allister polled the vote he got was down to two things he was an excellent MEP(personal vote)just like ian paisley used to get in the euros and in the mix was the expenses saga.It was however a low turn out and when paisley used to get a massive personal vote in the euros a large chuck of that vote swung back to UUP MPs at the later gen election.The same will i predict happen at this gen election a swing back to the DUP fact the TUV have no credible candidates.Apart from allister merely paper candidates who nobody has ever even heard off and some pretty awful ones at that.lol

  • dwatch

    Conservative candidate for NA Irwin Armstrong will no doubt help TUV candidate Jim Allister attract all previous UUP voters.

    Does anyone know of any Tory voters in NA?

  • dwatch

    Conservative candidate for NA Irwin Armstrong will no doubt help TUV candidate Jim Allister attract all previous UUP voters.

    Does anyone know of any Tory voters in NA?

  • Michaelhenry

    i heard d.u.p members describe jim allister has a dissident,any truth in this dwatch.

  • Paul

    #

    diane dodds of d.u.p fame came third in the euro election did she not.
    Posted by Michaelhenry on Mar 21, 2010 @ 02:08 PM

    She did but allisters not facing her hes going up against a paisley on the ballot paper and the result will be totally different.The tUV candidates will be facing some big hitters Jeffery donaldson will hammer harbinson in LV how many votes do you think harbinson will take off donaldson.?

  • Paul

    onservative candidate for NA Irwin Armstrong will no doubt help TUV candidate Jim Allister attract all previous UUP voters.

    Does anyone know of any Tory voters in NA?
    Posted by dwatch on Mar 21, 2010 @ 02:16 PM

    I think UCUNF vote will hold up and remain about the same in NA

  • Michaelhenry

    paisley and donaldson will win all right paul,being in power with sinn fein will be a big vote catcher for them.

  • slug

    David Burnside seems an obvious person for them to fall back on in SA.

  • cynic47

    I love the way the party activists suddenly reappear on Slugger when an election comes around with their stories of what they are hearing “on the ground”. They hear what they want to hear and are not really going to reprogram the anoraks that we all are who play on Slugger. Their vivid imaginations will not influence one voter. That said I suppose we will just have to put up with them in the meantime.

    Jim Allister, and I am not a fan, will in my humble opinion give IPJ one hell of a run for his money. Expect a few worried DUP looks around the counting centre. It will be tight, much tighter than Paul would want it to be, but I think that the DUP will hold on to the seat by their fingertips. There are a lot of issues that have not gone away just because nobody is currently mentioning them. Watch the dirt fly when the campaign starts. The real electoral damage to be done by the TUV will be at the next Assembly elections I reckon. Donaldson etc will be stung a little but not hurt.

  • YelloSmurf

    Cynic, I’m not back on because of the election, I’m back on because I have a University Assignment due and I can’t be bothered to do it.

    MichaelHenry, most people seem to be quite happy with powersharing, at least in principle.

  • dwatch

    [i]I think UCUNF vote will hold up and remain about the same in NA[/i]

    I doubt it, why should 2005 election ( Rodney McCune’s (UUP) 6,637 UUP voters) even go to the polling booth to waste their votes on an unknown Tory UCUNF?

    They will obviously vote TUV to help Jim Allister knock the Paisley family into political oblivion. Like Paisley & DUP did to David Trimble in the 2005 election. After all UUP supporters of Sir Reg & Trimble are more embittered & resentful against Paisley than they disapprove of Allister’s TUV. Revenge is the name of this election’s game even if UCUNF lose out.

  • Michaelhenry

    i am also happy with powersharing yellowsmurf,this is what the people of the 32 counties voted for in the good friday agreement,what sane person would say no to the people of the 32 counties.

  • dwatch

    [b]Paisley’s stronghold is now the key battleground[/b]

    Ireland Eye: Ian Paisley’s seat will see a huge fight between the DUP, Sinn Féin and dissident Unionists in the general election
    by John Coulter Sunday, March 21st, 2010
    http://www.tribunemagazine.co.uk/2010/03/21/paisley’s-stronghold-is-now-the-key-battleground/

  • Paul

    the tribune story is nonsense paisley jnr will retain the seat and PR leadership is safe.

  • Paul

    a question how many DUP MPs will lose there seats if everyone is saying they the DUP are going to get hammered.????

  • Paul

    i would say there is more chance that UCUNF will return 0 seats than the DUP losing seats.

  • Sammy Wilson’s calculator for the sums

    paul,

    what are your thoughts on the DUP’s education policy?

  • Paul

    paul,

    what are your thoughts on the DUP’s education policy?
    Posted by Sammy Wilson’s calculator for the sums on Mar 21,

    I am a realist and I simply dont think the unionist community will vote for TUV dinasaurs in there droves this will be a different election.

  • Sammy Wilson’s calculator for the sums

    Yes, Paul, but what are [i]your thoughts[/i] on the party’s education policy?

    Do you have any?

  • Paul

    #

    Yes, Paul, but what are your thoughts on the party’s education policy?

    Do you have any?
    Posted by Sammy Wilson’s calculator for the sums on Mar 21, 2010 @ 05:15 PM

    no I dont.

  • Sammy Wilson’s calculator for the sums

    So why do you support them?

  • dwatch

    [i]i would say there is more chance that UCUNF will return 0 seats than the DUP losing seats.[/i]

    Agreed, I think Paisley Jun will win against Allister in NA. The DUP will hold Strangford and could pick up an extra seat in SB.
    See difference in 2005 Westminster election

    Alasdair McDonnell (SDLP) 10,339
    Jimmy Spratt (DUP) 9,104
    Michael McGimpsey (UUP) 7,263

    Many UUP voters will vote DUP this time to save the seat going to Irish Nationalists seeing Trimble, Sir Reg & Cameron refused to have a unity candidate. [b]There will be no unity candidates – Trimble[/b] http://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/There-will-be-no-unity.6168256.jp

  • Paul

    o why do you support them?
    Posted by Sammy Wilson’s calculator for the sums on Mar 21, 2010 @ 05:22 PM

    I am a realist and giving you my opinion and I am not a DUP voter.

  • Harry J

    #

    Yes, Paul, but what are your thoughts on the party’s education policy?

    Do you have any?
    Posted by Sammy Wilson’s calculator for the sums on Mar 21, 2010 @ 05:15 PM

    parents want academic selection to stay, it has been saved by the dup now we need to sort out how it is implemented.

    The UUPs policy is to go back to the trimble days when ministers could do what they wanted to. Which is why were are in the position we are, as they allowed McGuiness to sign the order to end the 11 plus

  • Michaelhenry

    seen how the d.u.p allowed sinn fein to be over poilceing and justice in the near future harry j despite them saying no untill they turned.

  • dwatch

    All this harping on about education is a smokescreen by Sir Reg Empey & the UUP to avoid facing what will happen to the marginal seats of SB & FST. Education has been a hot potato sectarian debate since partition in 1922, and will still be a similar controversy in 2022.

    Education is not an important Union with UK or United Ireland matter, whereas the winning as many of the 18 Northern Ireland Westminster seats by Republican or Unionist MP’s is.

    The DUP offered the UUP to have a pact with them to return FST and SB to Unionist seats, and the UUP refused, so upon their heads be it.

  • Garza

    dwatch, were the DUP interested in unionist unity when they entered places like F&ST;, SB and West Tyrone and split up the vote?

    It is only recently they have been harping on about unionist unity since the arrival of the TUV. I wonder why?

  • dwatch

    Garza, all our yesterdays whining and moaning what the DUP did or didn’t do will not win seats for the Union in Northern Ireland.
    The fact is the DUP have put the hand of friendship out to the UUP were it matters most. IE: saving as many seats for Unionism.

    Sir Reg Empey & David Trimble are blinded by their own bitterness and resentment against the DUP to help in any Unionist advancement in future NI politics. Its time they took a back seat and moved on.

  • drumcairnharp

    See another Armstrong running for the UUP.Does anyone know if he is related to Sandra Armstrong(Overend)in Mid Ulster? It appears now that the UUP have selected candidates just because they are women and not on merit.

  • Comrade Stalin

    No need; found it in the link. 2 Conservatives.

    Joe, I’d make that one Conservative. Parsley may be a member of the Tories in name, but reading his contributions on here (and on his own blog, where he justifies the UUP’s anti-agreement stance) you could be forgiven for having the impression you’re dealing with a dyed-in-the-wool UUP activist, especially given that he is siding with the UUP against the policy spoken by his own party leader.

  • dodrade

    Can anyone tell me more about Paula Bradshaw, is she a serious candidate?

  • Carsons Cat

    dodrade,
    She’s serious ok – seriously there to ensure Alasdair McDonnell has a comfortable majority in South Belfast.

    Because that’s preferable than even talking to the DUP about trying to ensure a unionist MP could be returned.

  • slug

    dodrade: Yes, Paula Bradshaw is very much a serious candidate.

  • Niccolo

    I tend to agree with dwatch.

    I do not believe the DUP will loose any seats although the associated numbers may change here and there, the results will be the same. They are close enough in South Belfast to take the seat come what may – especially in the light of the UUP’s uncompromising stand on Unionist Unity and an friendly local UUP branch.

    However, going out on a limb here, I’d watch out for the DUP standing aside in FST anyway. This move would serve to completely wrong-foot the competition and leave the DUP in a potential win-win scenario.

    If Elliot wins in FST, the DUP will be vindicated and earn major ‘brownie points’ with the greater Unionist electorate – magnanimous gesture etc.

    If Elliot losses, well the DUP can simply claim to have done their best and infer that the people have given their opinion of the UUP/CON pact.

    Watch this space and remember you read it here first.

  • Niccolo

    With reference to Ian Parsley; as his name suggests he is more of a garnish or an after-thought.

    No definite flavour, only a mild aesthetic effect, and nobody would really care or notice if it wasn’t there.

    An unfair analysis?

    You decide.

  • slug

    Niccolo

    There is a play the ball not the man rule here.

  • Justin Case…

    Comrade Stalin

    Bitter much?

  • Niccolo

    slug,

    Mr Parsley up until very recently was a committed member of a party (the Alliance) that refuses to describe itself as Unionist.

    Now he is campaigning under a banner with Unionist in the title deeds.

    Coupled with the fact that the sitting MP who should be running for the UUP/CONs will not do so, he has been brought in as substitute.

    I think that should get me off the yellow card ref.

  • someone

    Who are these nutters who think that what matters for the union is how many so-called unionist MPs are elected? What utter bollocks! What matters is who becomes Prime Minister and what the tax policies etc are! The union is secure in the short term and the only thing that secures it long term is advent of normal politics and people from both communities seeing the benefits of the union. Circling the wagons and tribalism threaten the union and disenfranchise British citizens of their right to elect a government! “Unionist unity” is a D”U”P distraction because the real unionism offered by a chance to vote in national politics threatens them. DUP should rename themselves the Ulster Nationalist Party and join forces with Plaid and the SNP, it would be more honest.

  • someone

    Who are these nutters who think that what matters for the union is how many so-called unionist MPs are elected? What utter bollocks! What matters is who becomes Prime Minister and what the tax policies etc are! The union is secure in the short term and the only thing that secures it long term is advent of normal politics and people from both communities seeing the benefits of the union. Circling the wagons and tribalism threaten the union and disenfranchise British citizens of their right to elect a government! “Unionist unity” is a D”U”P distraction because the real unionism offered by a chance to vote in national politics threatens them. DUP should rename themselves the Ulster Nationalist Party and join forces with Plaid and the SNP, it would be more honest.

  • someone

    Who are these nutters who think that what matters for the union is how many so-called unionist MPs are elected? What utter bollocks! What matters is who becomes Prime Minister and what the tax policies etc are! The union is secure in the short term and the only thing that secures it long term is advent of normal politics and people from both communities seeing the benefits of the union. Circling the wagons and tribalism threaten the union and disenfranchise British citizens of their right to elect a government! “Unionist unity” is a D”U”P distraction because the real unionism offered by a chance to vote in national politics threatens them. DUP should rename themselves the Ulster Nationalist Party and join forces with Plaid and the SNP, it would be more honest.

  • Justin Case…

    Thanks someone for posting your comments three times, I missed the first two

    😛

  • someone

    Apologies all!

    V bad mobile signal looked like it hadn’t gone – moderators can maybe delete extra copies?

    Apologies again!

  • Comrade Stalin

    Justin,

    I thought it was important to correct the perception that Parsley is coming in as a Tory who stands to some extent aside from the usual rabble. The fact that he defers to Reg Empey ahead of his own party leader, and wrote a fairly substantial article on his own blog to that effect on that subject, suggests otherwise. If I didn’t know better I’d believe he was a paid-up UUP member.

  • dwatch

    Anyone want to lay odds North Down NI Conservative candidate Ian Parsley gets more votes than Julian Robertson did in 2005?

    Lady Sylvia Hermon (UUP) 16,268
    Peter Weir (DUP) 11,324
    David Alderdice (Alliance) 2,451
    Liam Logan (SDLP) 1,009
    Julian Robertson (Conservative) 822

  • Niccolo

    dwatch,

    I think Parsley will get more because of the Tory-UUP combination. I feel it will appeal in North Down.

    However, Herman, should she stand, may only cancel out Parsley and let Peter Weir through the middle as it were.

    Just my opinion.

  • dwatch

    Niccolo,

    Weir will only win if Hermon drops out. Many of the alliance electorate will vote for Hermon or Weir to embarrass Parsley. After all he did himself no favours with ND Alliance by leaving them to join the NI Conservative after the MEP election.

  • YelloSmurf

    It is my feeling that a number of Alliance voters would have voted for Sylvia even if they hadn’t been trying to embaress Parsley because she is a popular and moderate political figure in North Down. Alliance voters would rather have Sylvia Hermon than Peter Weier, don’t forget that Alliance stood down in 2001 in favour of Sylvia over Bob McCartney, so voting for her doesn’t ever really feel like voting for an Ulster Unionist. The figures show that her personal vote takes an aweful lot of votes from Alliance.

  • cynic47

    Is Peter Weir the DUP candidate?? Rumours abound of a change! Anyone heard anything?

  • cynic47

    Is Peter Weir the confirmed DUP candidate?? Rumours abound of a change! Anyone heard anything?

  • cynic47

    Is Peter Weir the confirmed DUP candidate?? Rumours abound of a change! Anyone heard anything?

  • cynic47

    Is Peter Weir the confirmed DUP candidate?? Rumours abound of a change! Anyone heard anything?

  • cynic47

    Just testing that you are all paying attention.lol

  • Comrade Stalin

    You have to be fair here. Ian does have existing profile (councillor, deputy Mayor of North Down, Alliance euro candidate, etc etc) which will easily push him well ahead of the past Tory result. The UCUNF link up will benefit by providing him with manpower on the ground – something the Tories never had. Manpower is something that Sylvia won’t have if she decides to run as an independent.

    Shortly after his defection I’d have said Parsley was a shoo-in for the seat under the Tory banner. These days, though, the message is confusing. The Conservative Party is today going to vote the devolution of policing and justice powers through Westminster. Conservative votes are not needed for this measure to pass, but it appears that the Conservatives are still (sensibly) keen to uphold the bipartisan policy, which makes a mockery of the claims from local Tories that Labour used the issue to play politics with the Tories, shafted Cameron, etc etc. Moreover, Parsley himself thinks that this is a bad decision, and has aligned himself with the anti-agreement UUP position, so what will he be saying to voters ?

    And you can bet as we speak that Peter Weir and the DUP spindoctors are trawling the Slugger archives for everything Parsley ever said right here, “I am not a unionist” etc. It’s hard to say what natural Alliance voters might do if they felt persuaded to vote tactically, but North Down has had a persistent majority in favour of pro-agreement candidates for quite some time (McCartney benefiting from moderate votes split between Alliance and the UUP). Like I said a few weeks ago, the UUP’s decision to become anti-agreement could turn out to have been a severe strategic mistake.